Has any player ever been as wasted as McDavid?

Discussion in 'National Hockey League Talk' started by hyduK, Feb 11, 2019.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. McDNicks17

    McDNicks17 Moderator

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2010
    Messages:
    27,564
    Likes Received:
    5,515
    Trophy Points:
    157
    Location:
    Ontario
    I'm having flashbacks to the "the Avs rebuild is way ahead of the Oilers" talk of 2014.

    At least karma didn't hit you guys as hard as the Sens after all that "0 year rebuild" lording.
     
    Kallio likes this.
  2. RussianRifle27

    RussianRifle27 Registered User

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2007
    Messages:
    761
    Likes Received:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    66
    He's only 21. There's still well over 15 seasons left in him whether they're with Edmonton or elsewhere. Olli Jokinen comes to mind. He had some really good years as a legitimate star player in Florida but never made the playoffs in his 8 years there.
     
  3. AvsFan29

    AvsFan29 Registered User

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2018
    Messages:
    7,523
    Likes Received:
    5,286
    Trophy Points:
    101
    Gender:
    Male
    It is way ahead of Edmontons, though.

    It will be even further ahead by next season.
     
  4. koyvoo

    koyvoo Live on Blueberry Hill

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2014
    Messages:
    7,178
    Likes Received:
    6,408
    Trophy Points:
    111
  5. DFC

    DFC Registered User

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2013
    Messages:
    32,351
    Likes Received:
    8,115
    Trophy Points:
    156
    Location:
    NB
    More players than we probably think. Edmonton is uniquely terrible because of how long this has been going on, not because of how bad they've been since McDavid came on board. Yzerman's Red Wings were known as the Dead Things, and the gap between him and his teammates was pretty crazy until the late 80s. As mentioned, Sakic's early years. I think it happens to a lot of #1 overall picks, early on, and then the team grows. The problem in Edmonton is there seems to be no path forward, and they have a long history of striving to be nothing more than mediocre.
     
  6. illpucks

    illpucks Registered User

    Joined:
    May 26, 2011
    Messages:
    16,308
    Likes Received:
    1,896
    Trophy Points:
    156
    Art Ross Benn
     
  7. McDNicks17

    McDNicks17 Moderator

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2010
    Messages:
    27,564
    Likes Received:
    5,515
    Trophy Points:
    157
    Location:
    Ontario
    Like I said, deja vu.
     
  8. HugginThePost

    HugginThePost Registered User Sponsor

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2006
    Messages:
    1,955
    Likes Received:
    908
    Trophy Points:
    139
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Engineer
    Location:
    Houston
    Hmmmmm.........?????
     
  9. ER89

    ER89 Registered User

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2018
    Messages:
    879
    Likes Received:
    507
    Trophy Points:
    61
    Hasek with the sabres?
     
  10. McDNicks17

    McDNicks17 Moderator

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2010
    Messages:
    27,564
    Likes Received:
    5,515
    Trophy Points:
    157
    Location:
    Ontario
    The guy playing 26 minutes a night with 22 points in his last 28 games.
     
    ColoradoCanes likes this.
  11. PatrikBerglund

    PatrikBerglund Registered User

    Joined:
    May 29, 2017
    Messages:
    3,234
    Likes Received:
    1,298
    Trophy Points:
    94
    OEL has wasted his whole career in a complete disaster of a franchise.
     
  12. Shaman464

    Shaman464 #FireHolland

    Joined:
    May 1, 2009
    Messages:
    6,781
    Likes Received:
    1,324
    Trophy Points:
    139
    Occupation:
    Virologist/Immunologist
    Location:
    Desert USA
    Yzerman pre-Bowman, easily.
     
  13. AvsFan29

    AvsFan29 Registered User

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2018
    Messages:
    7,523
    Likes Received:
    5,286
    Trophy Points:
    101
    Gender:
    Male
    What's true in the past, can remain true now. It's not deja vu
     
  14. Bet the Over

    Bet the Over In Ray we Trust

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2015
    Messages:
    3,890
    Likes Received:
    577
    Trophy Points:
    94
    Location:
    Chatham, NJ
    Jiri Tlusty.
     
  15. Kallio

    Kallio Registered User

    Joined:
    May 8, 2007
    Messages:
    2,154
    Likes Received:
    187
    Trophy Points:
    111
    Well to be fair, Edmonton are not longer rebuilding, they are redemolishing.
     
  16. Sparty

    Sparty Registered User

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2015
    Messages:
    453
    Likes Received:
    151
    Trophy Points:
    46
    Rick Nash in Columbus. Obviously he's not as good as McDavid (who is), but his teammates were a lot worse.
     
  17. HugginThePost

    HugginThePost Registered User Sponsor

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2006
    Messages:
    1,955
    Likes Received:
    908
    Trophy Points:
    139
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Engineer
    Location:
    Houston
    So you're ready to declare Nurse to be a "great hockey player"??

    That's a tiny limb you're going out on there.

    28 game sample size?? How about the rest of his games? How does that body of work stack up to being a "great" hockey player?

    Nurse is the definition of an average defenseman. Has really good tools, but his brain can't keep up. And that's not just me saying this, a quick glance at HFOil will support this claim coming from a heap of your own posters.
     
  18. McDNicks17

    McDNicks17 Moderator

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2010
    Messages:
    27,564
    Likes Received:
    5,515
    Trophy Points:
    157
    Location:
    Ontario
    Relative to the rest of the team he's pretty great.

    (I thought that post said "good hockey players". I'll concede "great" haha.)
     
  19. Elysian

    Elysian @AdamBath

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2011
    Messages:
    7,189
    Likes Received:
    375
    Trophy Points:
    94
    Location:
    Austin, TX
    Jamie Benn and Tyler Seguin.
     
  20. HugginThePost

    HugginThePost Registered User Sponsor

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2006
    Messages:
    1,955
    Likes Received:
    908
    Trophy Points:
    139
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Engineer
    Location:
    Houston
    Fair enough.......
     
  21. beach

    beach Registered User

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2005
    Messages:
    3,507
    Likes Received:
    1,034
    Trophy Points:
    139
    Location:
    here
    Matthews and Marner come to mind. Thankfully, Marner will be able to escape in a few months.
     
  22. AvsFan29

    AvsFan29 Registered User

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2018
    Messages:
    7,523
    Likes Received:
    5,286
    Trophy Points:
    101
    Gender:
    Male
    Good point. Maybe they can find some help in the draft over the next few years. A bunch of top 5 picks will surely make them a contender.

    How could it not?
     
    Kallio likes this.
  23. Rants Mulliniks

    Rants Mulliniks Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2008
    Messages:
    16,980
    Likes Received:
    1,055
    Trophy Points:
    169
    Easily Bob Probert.
     
  24. Quickdraw2828

    Quickdraw2828 Registered User

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2011
    Messages:
    1,676
    Likes Received:
    1,201
    Trophy Points:
    109
    Matt Martin on Toronto
     
    beach likes this.
  25. easton117

    easton117 Registered User

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2017
    Messages:
    2,671
    Likes Received:
    2,104
    Trophy Points:
    101
    Gender:
    Male
    No Rick Vaive Leaf fans? Jeez
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice
monitoring_string = "358c248ada348a047a4b9bb27a146148"