Prospect Info: Hartford Wolf Pack (AHL)/Maine Mariners (ECHL) Thread: Part XIII
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JimmyG89
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The four call-ups don't count bringing up a player to replace an injured one. What is does prevent (if the Rangers "send down" 4 players with the intent of having them in Hartford during the playoffs) is re-calling a player to evaluate their play in the NHL.
I know. That's what I'm saying. If we made paper transactions to send four guys down, what we have down the stretch is the option of those four guys as call-ups or someone else as an injury call-up. It just limits flexibility. If we did that and then wanted to look at Rykov or Kravtsov if we fell out of the race we'd only be able to bring them up in the event someone was injured.
That's why I think they make one or two paper transactions and then leave the other two for flexibility.
Who was it, Biron? That always played stand-up in those situations and you knew it was going five hole?
Huska has struggled big time, basically since Shesterkin left it feels like.
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Agreed. Newell has a couple of nice chances in the 3rd, but didn’t really do much anywhere else. Ronning has the speed to grind, but he gets bumped off the puck a lot and has that junior styled offense still.
They definitely need a boost, but I think they just need to shoot the puck on net more. Most of their opportunities missed the net, even with screens in front. They have to connect.
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Yeah Hajek was okay Friday night. Wasn’t good wasn’t bad. Would’ve wanted him to do more, TBH.
You could see Kravtsov’s potential when watching him. He’s got great athleticism, but he’s a kid playing against men, mostly prepared for an AHL game (if that makes sense). I think he needs to get stronger and faster skating wise and then you’ll start to see the production. Kid is only 20 so he’s got time. Think also playing consistently on North American ice will help, too.
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I said early in the season that they should have tried to pull a guy away from Europe, a 4A guy, to supplement the team. This is why. The Hartford roster was really balanced, but also filled with guys that you knew would eventually be called up (or injured, or Andersson, etc.).
EDIT: Zolnierczyk would have been helpful if he didn't retire or whatever.
EDIT: Zolnierczyk would have been helpful if he didn't retire or whatever.
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note about a recent HWP player -
Ottawa has been running out of d-men -
just saw a note that Hubert LaBrie had been put on waivers
before today the guy had never had an NHL contract,
so it seems Ottawa is signing him to an NHL deal to play;
I may not have this CBA detail precisely right, but adding a veteran (any pro career) after season starts, who hadn't been signed and in your org already, requires waivers before he can be added
(some may recall that, when Zucc returned from KHL, this was NOT needed, because he had been tendered a QO)
also TML put Tymashov on waivers, i guess to demote him,
wasn't he included in various Georgiev, etc trade proposals by TML and NYR posters...?
Ottawa has been running out of d-men -
just saw a note that Hubert LaBrie had been put on waivers
before today the guy had never had an NHL contract,
so it seems Ottawa is signing him to an NHL deal to play;
I may not have this CBA detail precisely right, but adding a veteran (any pro career) after season starts, who hadn't been signed and in your org already, requires waivers before he can be added
(some may recall that, when Zucc returned from KHL, this was NOT needed, because he had been tendered a QO)
also TML put Tymashov on waivers, i guess to demote him,
wasn't he included in various Georgiev, etc trade proposals by TML and NYR posters...?
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I believe trading for Berube probably puts to bed that Shesterkin goes down at any point, including playoffs.
Hartford losing Nieves has hurt them a lot. He's an important player for them and sets up their down the middle depth well. Wouldn't be surprised that they start playing well when he gets back in.
Hartford losing Nieves has hurt them a lot. He's an important player for them and sets up their down the middle depth well. Wouldn't be surprised that they start playing well when he gets back in.
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Pack are up 2-1 so far today. As @Don Chytil mentioned, Kravtsov with an assist on a Lettieri goal. 8 points in his last 11 games.
Kravtsov has settled in really well after a rocky start. The 8 points in his last 11 games would place him 14th among U21 forwards behind Norris, Kotkaniemi, Chytil, Hayton, Farabee, Glass, Formenton, Tippett, Comtois, Elvenes, Studnicka, Vilardi, and Zadina. Basically those are all guys who have either broken into the NHL or are knocking on the door. The guys right behind (Frost, Robertson, and Rasmussen) are pretty good too. 11 games is obviously a small sample, but the eye test has also looked pretty good to me and it makes sense it would take Kravtsov a couple games to adjust to a NA style of play and get used to playing with new teammates. On top of the impressive production, he's been playing a complete / two-way game. I'm not sure he's physically ready to step into the NHL right this minute, but the evidence seems to be building that he's on track to become a pretty good NHL player.
Getting Rykov back will help, too. Should take Geertsen out of the lineup, who is just spectacularly bad at playing hockey.
Beauty of a goal by Gettinger, he drove hard to the net shorthanded and gives the Pack a 3-1 lead.
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Joey Keane was propping him up on his shoulders, which made his season even more remarkable.
I will say that Ho-Sang’s offensive talent has been fun to watch in this game. Especially on their power play. But yeah, terrible defending on that one.
Gettinger draws a penalty now as well. He’s been very impressive today.
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Gettinger is overlooked often, but he's still young and his game has gotten better at the AHL level this season. His size is interesting for the bottom 6 moving forward, and maybe he could be a net front of PP2 if he puts it together.
What is completely essential to remember regarding Kravtsov is that (1) he has big challenges in certain areas, and that he is really good in other areas that he just does not get to utilize much in the AHL. The top guys in the NHL, be it Marchand and Pasternak or Ziba and Panarin, plays the game a certain way that is all about never giving the puck away until you have a good scoring chance, and to utilize very high caliber individual plays to keep it within the team. For this type of style to pay off -- everyone must be on the same page. Like everyone can figure out that its pretty meaningless to have a forward that can pull of a fantastic move in the corner to come out with the puck against three guys, if another forward that is passed the puck after that play just dumps it on net ASAP on a low percentage play.
Kravtsov has potential to play that style of game. And with all due respect to his teammates in the AHL, they are playing "4th line hockey" all the time.
So I definitely think Kravy can develop in the AHL, i.e. in the areas that he faces challenges in, at least for a while. Probably not more than a year, but that should be enough. But his production in the AHL doesn't at all have to reflect his potential.
He's apparently been dealing with an upper body injury. Missed a few games, came back and scored, then missed a few more. Who really knows.
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Rykov played Friday night, but looked like he was still lingering with an injury....
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