Waived: Happy Trails Dale Weise (Waived - Unclaimed)

[baudib1]

There is such a thing as negative veteran leadership. I want him as far away from Patty as possible. Same can be said for MacDonald and the defensemen.

 

[Striiker]

There’s no reason to believe they’re doing any damage off the ice...

 

[bennysflyers16]

I just read Boruks article...

Wow. I want Weise gone, but what a piece of dogsh*t that was. Boruk is a piece of ****, just like the rest of the trash at NBCSP.

What’s the gist of it ?

 

[TCTC]

Weise seems like a genuinely nice guy. I don't know where the idea comes from that he's some kind of locker room cancer.

They just want his contract off the books. That's my feeling.

 

[deadhead]

I tink the problem with Weise stems from a sequence, playing a regular role in Montreal, getting buried on the 4th line in Chicago, and signing here with the promise he'd get to play a top 9 role like in Montreal
2014-15: 79g 10-19 29 all at ES
2015-16: 56g 14-12 26, 10-9 at ES, prorates to 15-13 28 at ES, same as the previous year.
2015-16: 15g 0-1 1 9:57 a game in Chicago

So he comes here thinking he was signed to a similar role that he played in Montreal.
His first year here, he has his best possession metrics, 53.1 Corsi, E +/- 7.0 but only 13 points.
Then his role shrunk. Other than a few weeks with Couts, he got stuck with bad centers most of his time here.

I think this was a miscalculation by Hextall, Weise wasn't really skilled enough to be more than a marginal 3rd line RW, on a team with TK, Voracek and Simmonds, out of place at LW, but lacking the mentality of a 4th line energy guy (and overpaid for the role). He can play physical, but never played up to his size, has some speed, but doesn't fly around with his pants on fire.

 

[Striiker]

What’s the gist of it ?

Just basically a character attack with nothing of substance to back it up. Made it sound like Boruk had something personal against him.

For example:

That all changed when Scott Gordon replaced Hakstol. Weise was relegated to a fourth-line checking role, which, let’s just say, he refused to embrace. In recent games at Washington and last Saturday in New Jersey, Weise played a combined 20:38 with a whole lot of nothing — no shots, no hits, no blocks and, quite frankly, no interest.

Equating poor quality of play to not trying. Shocking that a player averaging 10 minutes per game on the 4th line didn't produce much and acting as if no hits or blocks means anything.

To make matters worse was Patrick’s disturbing admission: “He was really good at helping me stay positive through the slump and when everything wasn't going well. He's by far the best teammate I've ever had."

The best teammate he’s ever had?

If Weise was this incredible teammate, then he would have spent the past two seasons leading by example on the ice as the hardest-working player on the team, and not tell a teammate all the cushy things he wants to hear when things aren’t going so well.

As if giving encouragement to a young player is a bad thing. The same guy who took Hart in on Xmas. As if his poor play on the ice means he can't be a good guy off the ice.

 

[gertbfrobe16]

I wonder if something g blew up after the footage of our media ripping him ?

be funny if jake saw it on here and told him.

 

[bennysflyers16]

Just basically a character attack with nothing of substance to back it up. Made it sound like Boruk had something personal against him.

For example:


Equating poor quality of play to not trying. Shocking that a player averaging 10 minutes per game on the 4th line didn't produce much and acting as if no hits or blocks means anything.



As if giving encouragement to a young player is a bad thing. The same guy who took Hart in on Xmas. As if his poor play on the ice means he can't be a good guy off the ice.

That second part is pure trash

 

[Striiker]

That second part is pure trash

Yup. Taking a shot at Patrick too as if he's weak for getting encouragement from a teammate.

Boruk was always an idiot, now he seems malicious too. Aggressively ignorant.

 

[deadhead]

It's very possible for Weise to be a good teammate and mentor yet be discontented because he thought he was mislead when he signed here - and to not be able to play a major role on a losing team is doubly irritating.

Whether he deserves to be in the top 9 is one question, whether he signed with the understanding that he'd be used as a top 9 forward and feels betrayed is another.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Yup. Taking a shot at Patrick too as if he's weak for getting encouragement from a teammate.

Boruk was always an idiot, now he seems malicious too. Aggressively ignorant.

He's a protein-quaffing, bench-pressing d****elord for sure, 100%.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

If he has been b***hing about his playing time, or usage, or anything else, then I retract my earlier statement about it not being cool to leave him at home. He is a total non-event of a hockey player with an event horizon face, though I'm not exactly sure what that has to do with anything, so don't @ me.

 

[Striiker]

If he has been b***hing about his playing time, or usage, or anything else, then I retract my earlier statement about it not being cool to leave him at home. He is a total non-event of a hockey player with an event horizon face, though I'm not exactly sure what that has to do with anything, so don't @ me.

Well, seeing as there's been nothing about this from anyone other than this singular piece of human garbage, I doubt that's the case.

At the very least, we have no reason to believe it at this time and I'd believe someone reading tea leaves before I trust a word out of Boruks mouth.

Seriously, if I actively tried to gather the biggest group of ignorant idiots I could find, I couldn't possibly hope to match the team that NBCSP has assembled for the Flyers. Not a single decent person in the bunch, save for Taryn.

 

[TCTC]

It's very possible for Weise to be a good teammate and mentor yet be discontented because he thought he was mislead when he signed here - and to not be able to play a major role on a losing team is doubly irritating.

Whether he deserves to be in the top 9 is one question, whether he signed with the understanding that he'd be used as a top 9 forward and feels betrayed is another.

Well, the guy who may have told him he'd be a top 9 player is gone now. The coach that liked him is gone too. There is no assurance anymore. Every player has to fight for his spot. Weise should know that.

 

[FlyerNutter]

Bring back Coatsey.

 

[Striiker]

Bring back Coatsie.

f*** that.

No more dinosaurs or garbage ex-players.

People who actually know what they're talking about.

 

[FlyerNutter]

**** that.

No more dinosaurs or garbage ex-players.

People who actually know what they're talking about.

Haha the man is more likely to be a patient of mine than return.

 

[Runner77]

Seriously, dude has to have Hapsberg blood in his lineage.

View attachment 176335

Resemblance is uncanny.

Painting source: Flemish School (c. 1515) - Emperor Charles V (1500-58)

The infamous "Habsburg jaw" is apparently the result of inbreeding: How Incest Caused The Deformities And Downfall Of One Of Europe's Most Powerful Royal Families
...the Habsburg jaw and the debilitating costs of rampant, decades-long incest among Europe's most powerful royal families.

It gets better. There are theories about an extra-terrestrial aspect to the look:

By admittedly flawed memory, the Habsburg (also Hapsburg) monarchy ruled east central Europe around the 16th and 17th centuries AD.

Habsburgs are invariably recognized by their insanely prominent chins, narrow faces, and passionate love for a stew made with sauerkraut, garlic, potatoes, caraway seeds, and mice.

(...)

There is a renegade theory that the DNA quirks associated with peculiar facial abnormalities of the Habsburgs, was actually introduced by mating with extraterrestrials.

Clearly, there is no preponderance of evidence to support this, and it is generally accepted in anthropological circles that the keen resemblance to primitive cave drawings depicting long chinned "star visitors" is merely coincidental.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

I 100% buy the extraterrestrial influence, but when people say "Habsburg" instead of "Hapsburg," I feel like I am about to have a stroke.

 

[kudymen]

I 100% buy the extraterrestrial influence, but when people say "Habsburg" instead of "Hapsburg," I feel like I am about to have a stroke.

"We" are spelling it with "b" here just like any German speaking country in Europe, so you can imagine my surprise when I first found out they are actually called "Hapsburg" somewhere.. made no sense to me

 

[Rebels57]

Just basically a character attack with nothing of substance to back it up. Made it sound like Boruk had something personal against him.

For example:


Equating poor quality of play to not trying. Shocking that a player averaging 10 minutes per game on the 4th line didn't produce much and acting as if no hits or blocks means anything.



As if giving encouragement to a young player is a bad thing. The same guy who took Hart in on Xmas. As if his poor play on the ice means he can't be a good guy off the ice.

I have no problem with that first paragraph because the effort actually was not there to me with Weise.

The bottom paragraph is very unprofessional of Boruk though. What a meathead.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

"We" are spelling it with "b" here just like any German speaking country in Europe, so you can imagine my surprise when I first found out they are actually called "Hapsburg" somewhere.. made no sense to me

I have no problem with that being the official, or correct way to say it - it's just that it was never pronounced that way when I was in school - not ever, not once lol

 

[kudymen]

I have no problem with that being the official, or correct way to say it - it's just that it was never pronounced that way when I was in school - not ever, not once lol

Our pronounciation is closer to the "p" anyway too, I was just surprised


To get back on topic of Dale Weise, here is another jaw from his dynasty

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Just basically a character attack with nothing of substance to back it up. Made it sound like Boruk had something personal against him.

For example:


Equating poor quality of play to not trying. Shocking that a player averaging 10 minutes per game on the 4th line didn't produce much and acting as if no hits or blocks means anything.



As if giving encouragement to a young player is a bad thing. The same guy who took Hart in on Xmas. As if his poor play on the ice means he can't be a good guy off the ice.

Karma is a wonderful thing. These clowns don’t realize these guys have a life away from the game. There is no accountability with these jackasses

 

[Amorgus]

I 100% buy the extraterrestrial influence, but when people say "Habsburg" instead of "Hapsburg," I feel like I am about to have a stroke.

I just thought I screwed up but I guess people are spelling it both ways.