Player Discussion Hampus Lindholm III - the Return/Revenge of the Swede?

[Gliff]

I think he is healthier then he has been in a long time. Imagine if Manson went back to the guy he was a couple years ago. We would have a legit top 3.

 

[Index]

If you guys are rebuilding, is he up for trade ?

 

[duxfan1101]

If you guys are rebuilding, is he up for trade ?

He shouldn't be.

 

[Index]

He shouldn't be.

To help and shelter the young guys ?

 

[duxfan1101]

To help and shelter the young guys ?

That and he's still relatively young himself. He's also pretty much the only defenseman we have who can handle playing against top players in the league. I still maintain he is a top 10 defenseman when it comes to playing defense. And even though it would be nice if he had more offensive ability, that likely will make him not too expensive on his next deal.

 

[Index]

That and he's still relatively young himself. He's also pretty much the only defenseman we have who can handle playing against top players in the league. I still maintain he is a top 10 defenseman when it comes to playing defense. And even though it would be nice if he had more offensive ability, that likely will make him not too expensive on his next deal.

Fair enough, I just don’t see you guys being competitive until he hits his 30s, which is still not a bad age but was just wondering if you’d be open to trade him for some picks and prospects

 

[duxfan1101]

Fair enough, I just don’t see you guys being competitive until he hits his 30s, which is still not a bad age but was just wondering if you’d be open to trade him for some picks and prospects

Maybe our GM feels differently than I do. I just feel like it would be extremely difficult to find someone who can replace what Lindholm brings to the team.

 

[lwvs84]

Fair enough, I just don’t see you guys being competitive until he hits his 30s, which is still not a bad age but was just wondering if you’d be open to trade him for some picks and prospects

It would likely be for more than teams would want to pay. The Ducks probably haven't drafted a better d-man in their history so they'd want an impact piece back rather than a mid/late first and depth guys. There are plenty of guys that should fill the 2nd and 3rd lines/pairs, the Ducks need top line/top pair guys even if they're a few years out. I'm not sure if there's a team that would think it's worth it and have that type of asset to trade.

 

[Paul4587]

Fair enough, I just don’t see you guys being competitive until he hits his 30s, which is still not a bad age but was just wondering if you’d be open to trade him for some picks and prospects

Hampus turns 30 in 2024. I would be really surprised if we hadn’t made it back to the playoffs before that point.

 

[JabbaJabba]

Lindholm is the last defenceman I would want to trade. Trading him would create a massive hole to fill. I would think about the return very carefully. I would want top prospects for him at the moment. Not picks, prospects who actually look promising or young players who are ready to breakout.

 

[TopShelfWaterBottle]

Fair enough, I just don’t see you guys being competitive until he hits his 30s, which is still not a bad age but was just wondering if you’d be open to trade him for some picks and prospects

What prospects you offering?

 

[Gliff]

If you guys are rebuilding, is he up for trade ?

No

To help and shelter the young guys ?

Because he is a 26 year old top pairing defensemen. If they can resign him they need to. Outside of GIbson, he is the closest thing the Ducks have to an elite player.

 

[Index]

How about podkolzin and a first (most likely top 5 )

 

[Gliff]

How about podkolzin and a first (most likely top 5 )

I don’t think it is about the return. It is just the fact that it leaves a huge hole that the Ducks may not be able to fill for a long long time. Hampus is the best defensemen the Ducks have ever produced.

Maybe if the Ducks scouts (who I trust 100% when it comes to scouting defensemen) think that the defensemen they get with that pick is going to be better then Hampus in a couple years.

 

[bsu]

Trade Fowler not Lindholm

 

[anezthes]

How much, and how many years, would you be willing to give Lindholm on his next contract?

 

[TheGoodShepard1]

How much, and how many years, would you be willing to give Lindholm on his next contract?

IMO, it’s a guarantee he’s getting at least $7M per year. Seems like the going rate for top pairing Dmen at the moment, which is unquestionably what he is when healthy.

The term is a much more fascinating question given his injury history. He’s gonna get the full 8 year max, which I think is fair; I know the injury history might scare some posters and may send them into a 5-6 year length at most, but the guy is a horse and he cares about his conditioning. I think he’ll age well even if he does play a more physical game than someone like Cam.

 

[DavidBL]

IMO, it’s a guarantee he’s getting at least $7M per year. Seems like the going rate for top pairing Dmen at the moment, which is unquestionably what he is when healthy.

The term is a much more fascinating question given his injury history. He’s gonna get the full 8 year max, which I think is fair; I know the injury history might scare some posters and may send them into a 5-6 year length at most, but the guy is a horse and he cares about his conditioning. I think he’ll age well even if he does play a more physical game than someone like Cam.

I would be okay with 7 mill for 8 years.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

How about podkolzin and a first (most likely top 5 )

Weird. Vancouver is in a similar disposition as us, meaning a team outside looking in, especially if you're expecting a top-5 draft pick. Lindholm is a bonafide #1D. I know what we have today in Lindholm, but don't know what there will be with Pod and "supposed" top-5.

The Ducks are building from the net out. G Gibson is our elite player. The addition of Drysdale (6th overall in 2020) to Lindholm, Manson, and Fowler gives the defense much added talent. Drysdale already looks like he's a better fit for the AHL in development this year than in the OHL. Drysdale could make the jump to the NHL next year. Now that the team has found its scoring touch, they lack the capability to keep the lead. But that's because Lindholm and Manson have been out of the line up.

The reason you want Lindholm is the exact same reason the Ducks would keep Lindholm, help your team get to the playoffs sooner. You're willing to give up Pod and a top-5 pick for Lindholm to become relevant sooner, simultaneously pushing back the Ducks' time line to become relevant.

 

[SirQuacksALot]

IMO, it’s a guarantee he’s getting at least $7M per year. Seems like the going rate for top pairing Dmen at the moment, which is unquestionably what he is when healthy.

The term is a much more fascinating question given his injury history. He’s gonna get the full 8 year max, which I think is fair; I know the injury history might scare some posters and may send them into a 5-6 year length at most, but the guy is a horse and he cares about his conditioning. I think he’ll age well even if he does play a more physical game than someone like Cam.

That would put Lindholm $250k/yr above Provorov and $500k/yr under Ekblad (going by cap hit for the average). I'm ok with that.

 

[bsu]

Trade Fowler if we have to in order to keep Lindholm. Losing Lindholm would be unacceptable, him paired with Drysdale will be so damn good.

 

[DavidBL]

Trade Fowler if we have to in order to keep Lindholm. Losing Lindholm would be unacceptable, him paired with Drysdale will be so damn good.

We really shouldn't have any trouble resigning him as long as he wants to stay. His raise will only be a couple mil.

 

[TheGoodShepard1]

That would put Lindholm $250k/yr above Provorov and $500k/yr under Ekblad (going by cap hit for the average). I'm ok with that.

Keep in mind that's more of just a landscape thing than a personal prediction. If you wanted a personal prediction, I think he clocks in at 7/$8M or 8/$8M AAV, which I'm cool with (he might check in closer to the $7M range if the cap doesn't go up next offseason and I think it will).

 

[McDonald19]

Yeah I think it’s more about if Lindholm wants to be in Anaheim, than a cap space or actual dollars issue.

 

[bsu]

His sister plays soccer for CAL state long Beach hopefully that helps