Proposal: Hamilton Joins The GTA: TOR + CAR / TOR + BUF + OTT

[MarkusKetterer]

How much you think Mittelstadt is worth ? Toronto payed a 1st for to get rid of Marleau who had 1 year left, you expect Ottawa to take a 3 year version in Okposo for a faltering prospect ?

Reimer with a good season is maybe worth a conditional 3rd at the TDL.

Ain't no getting rid of Okposo without the 8th, imo no incentive from any team otherwise, doesn't mean you don't get anything back tho.

Okposo + Montour + 8th for Tierney + 28th + 61st/62nd (DAL 2nd)

So Okposo + 8th for 61/62, and Tierney + 28th for Montour?

 

[Perennial]

How much you think Mittelstadt is worth ? Toronto payed a 1st for to get rid of Marleau who had 1 year left, you expect Ottawa to take a 3 year version in Okposo for a faltering prospect ?

Reimer with a good season is maybe worth a conditional 3rd at the TDL.

Ain't no getting rid of Okposo without the 8th, imo no incentive from any team otherwise, doesn't mean you don't get anything back tho.

Okposo + Montour + 8th for Tierney + 28th + 61st/62nd (DAL 2nd)

Toronto was desperate to dump Marleau's contract in order to re-sign Marner...

Buffalo isn't in that situation

 

[MMC]

Does Carolina really want Andersen after what he did to them?

 

[Perennial]

You know what I really can’t stand? When someone comes along and proposes a bad trade and they can’t accept that their trade idea is bad, so they have to try to defend it.

I couldn’t care less about Casey Middlestat. If he’s so good, why isn’t he in the nhl? Ottawa has lot of prospects. We don’t need to take on Okposo’s horrible contract to get a guy we don’t even need.

Get this through your head ok? Ottawa will hit the cap floor. They don’t need Kyle Okposo making 6 million for the next three years. Stop acting like your doing Ottawa fans a favour, you’re not.

Its relevant when you keep doing this. If we need to get rid of him we’ll pay Seattle to do it. He’s only overpaid, not useless.

Why do you care about trade proposals made by some random guy on the internet?

It literally has zero impact on your life unless you want it to...

 

[Pavlikovsky]

So Okposo + 8th for 61/62, and Tierney + 28th for Montour?

More like Okposo + 8th for 28th + 61th/62nd and Tierney for Montour which was discussed and well received by both teams fans a while ago.

 

[Perennial]

No chance for Carolina.

Liljegren has little value to the Canes as he would be behind both Bean and Keane. If the Canes are dealing Hamilton it is for a good roster piece. Not a middling upgrade to Mrazek for 1 year.

Andersen for 2021 2nd if Carolina strikes out on better options or UFA.

Anderson + #15 for Reimer + #13 could warrant consideration...

 

[Langdon Alger]

Why do you care about trade proposals made by some random guy on the internet?

It literally has zero impact on your life unless you want it to...

Why post on a message board or online at all? It has no impact on any of our lives what strangers say on the internet.

 

[Pavlikovsky]

Toronto was desperate to dump Marleau's contract in order to re-sign Marner...

Buffalo isn't in that situation

Situation or not Ottawa was still receiving a dump in Okposo with 6 mil cap hit and still owed 11 milllion if it were to happen today, and imo he has one of the worst contracts in the league on par with Lucic,

 

[GoldiFox]

Anderson + #15 for Reimer + #13 could warrant consideration...

Assuming that nobody surprising fell, including Askarov, then that could be a fit. Basically a scenario where Toronto wanted to ensure they got a Schneider/Guhle type.

If Sanderson happened to drop Carolina could probably get a haul at the pick. Doubt that happens though.

 

[Perennial]

Situation or not Ottawa was still receiving a dump in Okposo with 6 mil cap hit and still owed 11 milllion if it were to happen today, and imo he has one of the worst contracts in the league on par with Lucic,

Yes, but Ottawa is also dumping Anisimov in the deal, so it's essentially taking on 2 additional years of Okposo, since year 1 is basically a wash...

 

[WreckingCrew]

Cane's fans would like to submit a formal petition to block all TOR-CAR trade proposals on this board... they're always embarassingly brutal for the Canes. Extended Hamilton worth way more than that package of mostly "meh". Gonna be cap hell for TOR too...don't y'all have Svech to extend too and Pesce already?

 

[Pavlikovsky]

Yes, but Ottawa is also dumping Anisimov in the deal, so it's essentially taking on 2 additional years of Okposo, since year 1 is basically a wash...

Don't need to dump Anisimov If he plays like he did and Ottawa retains at the deadline we can potentially get a pick back (5th ish).

 

[ole ole]

If Hamilton isn't interested in re-signing with Carolina...

Trade #1

To Toronto: Hamilton (extended), Reimer

To Carolina: #15, Liljegren, Anderson (extended)


Toronto get a hometown #1 RD

Carolina get a #1 goaltender, a young Dman with some upside, plus the #15 pick in a strong draft


Trade #2

Toronto out: Johnsson, Kerfoot, Reimer
Toronto in: Hogberg

Buffalo out: Mittelstadt, Okposo
Buffalo in: Johnsson, Kerfoot, Anisimov

Ottawa out: Anisimov, Hogberg
Ottawa in: Mittelstadt, Okposo, Reimer


Toronto clear the necessary cap space to sign Pietrangelo

Buffalo get some serviceable forwards to help fill out their roster, while also dumping Okposo's contract. Anisimov's contract expires next summer, so he'll be off the books by the time Dahlin's extension kicks in

Ottawa land a young C with some upside, plus a solid goaltender whose base salary is only 850k for next season who can hopefully be flipped at the deadline. Okposo's salary will help them reach the cap floor for the next few seasons while they're rebuilding, but he'll be off the books by the time this year's draft picks are due for extensions


Assuming Pietrangelo wants to play for the Leafs, their defense next season...

Rielly - Pietrangelo
Muzzin - Hamilton
Sandin/Dermott/Holl

Leaf fan by any chance?

 

[Guttersniped]

If Hamilton isn't interested in re-signing with Carolina...

Trade #1

To Toronto: Hamilton (extended), Reimer

To Carolina: #15, Liljegren, Anderson (extended)


Toronto get a hometown #1 RD

Carolina get a #1 goaltender, a young Dman with some upside, plus the #15 pick in a strong draft


Trade #2

Toronto out: Johnsson, Kerfoot, Reimer
Toronto in: Hogberg

Buffalo out: Mittelstadt, Okposo
Buffalo in: Johnsson, Kerfoot, Anisimov

Ottawa out: Anisimov, Hogberg
Ottawa in: Mittelstadt, Okposo, Reimer


Toronto clear the necessary cap space to sign Pietrangelo

Buffalo get some serviceable forwards to help fill out their roster, while also dumping Okposo's contract. Anisimov's contract expires next summer, so he'll be off the books by the time Dahlin's extension kicks in

Ottawa land a young C with some upside, plus a solid goaltender whose base salary is only 850k for next season who can hopefully be flipped at the deadline. Okposo's salary will help them reach the cap floor for the next few seasons while they're rebuilding, but he'll be off the books by the time this year's draft picks are due for extensions


Assuming Pietrangelo wants to play for the Leafs, their defense next season...

Rielly - Pietrangelo
Muzzin - Hamilton
Sandin/Dermott/Holl

Toronto is going to have Hamilton and AP on their team in this scenario? What’s their cap hit? Who is shipped out?

 

[Perennial]

Toronto is going to have Hamilton and AP on their team in this scenario? What’s their cap hit? Who is shipped out?

It's all right there in the OP...

 

[Howie Hodge]

Sabres fan says hellllz yess!!

No way the other teams would be nice enough to do this for us....

 

[Halla]

If the Canes trade Hamilton, I doubt it's for a goalie and futures.

I'm pretty sure it would take substantial NHL roster pieces.

for a guy thats UFA in a year? Andersen+Liljegren+ pick 15 in a stacked draft is grand theft larceny by the canes

not a chance they do that for a year of dougie hamilton to play on his 4th NHL team at age 27


edit: dont care that its "extended" leafs can just extend him on their own if they wanted.
guys dont sign 6-8 year extensions to immediately get traded thus giving the team they are leaving an immensely better return. this isnt the nba

 

[Djp]

If Hamilton isn't interested in re-signing with Carolina...

Trade #1

To Toronto: Hamilton (extended), Reimer

To Carolina: #15, Liljegren, Anderson (extended)


Toronto get a hometown #1 RD

Carolina get a #1 goaltender, a young Dman with some upside, plus the #15 pick in a strong draft


Trade #2

Toronto out: Johnsson, Kerfoot, Reimer
Toronto in: Hogberg

Buffalo out: Mittelstadt, Okposo
Buffalo in: Johnsson, Kerfoot, Anisimov

Ottawa out: Anisimov, Hogberg
Ottawa in: Mittelstadt, Okposo, Reimer


Toronto clear the necessary cap space to sign Pietrangelo

Buffalo get some serviceable forwards to help fill out their roster, while also dumping Okposo's contract. Anisimov's contract expires next summer, so he'll be off the books by the time Dahlin's extension kicks in

Ottawa land a young C with some upside, plus a solid goaltender whose base salary is only 850k for next season who can hopefully be flipped at the deadline. Okposo's salary will help them reach the cap floor for the next few seasons while they're rebuilding, but he'll be off the books by the time this year's draft picks are due for extensions


Assuming Pietrangelo wants to play for the Leafs, their defense next season...

Rielly - Pietrangelo
Muzzin - Hamilton
Sandin/Dermott/Holl

f*** no

Mittlestadt isn’t being thrown in to give up Okposo.

Buffalo isn’t in cap trouble and doesn’t need to throw in good stuff 8nto Okposo to trade him.

Johnson, kerfoot, and anidinov doesn’t hrlp buffalo in any way shape or form. They are taking back more cap back.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

Seeing as this is a Leafs focused trade proposal you can imagine how shocking it is that it’s a Big Fuggin pass from Carolina.

 

[Djp]

How much you think Mittelstadt is worth ? Toronto payed a 1st for to get rid of Marleau who had 1 year left, you expect Ottawa to take a 3 year version in Okposo for a faltering prospect ?

Reimer with a good season is maybe worth a conditional 3rd at the TDL.

Ain't no getting rid of Okposo without the 8th, imo no incentive from any team otherwise, doesn't mean you don't get anything back tho.

Okposo + Montour + 8th for Tierney + 28th + 61st/62nd (DAL 2nd)

I would never do thst deal.

The difference between a top 10 and those picks are huge.

Okposo at 50% retained has positive value.

Unlike Lucic, his last season is buyout friendly because no bonus money in last year.

 

[Perennial]

I would never do thst deal.

The difference between a top 10 and those picks are huge.

Okposo at 50% retained has positive value.

Unlike Lucic, his last season is buyout friendly because no bonus money in last year.

I disagree...

If Okposo was a UFA, I don't think there's a team in the NHL that would sign him to a 3 year deal worth 3 million per

 

[Guttersniped]

It's all right there in the OP...

I didn’t mean in terms of getting Hamilton, I meant in teams of making both of those defensemen’s salaries work with the current Leaf’s roster.

 

[Perennial]

Sabres fan says hellllz yess!!

No way the other teams would be nice enough to do this for us....

f*** no

Mittlestadt isn’t being thrown in to give up Okposo.

Buffalo isn’t in cap trouble and doesn’t need to throw in good stuff 8nto Okposo to trade him.

Johnson, kerfoot, and anidinov doesn’t hrlp buffalo in any way shape or form. They are taking back more cap back.

It's always interesting when 2 people view a trade so differently...

 

[Perennial]

I didn’t mean in terms of getting Hamilton, I meant in teams of making both of those defensemen’s salaries work with the current Leaf’s roster.

Johnsson and Kerfoot combine to make 6.9 million, so that's Hamilton's extension...

Anderson and Ceci combined to make 9 million this past year, so that's Pietrangelo's contract

The rest of the roster will be filled with players on their ELC, or by veterans making the league minimum...

 

[Djp]

It's always interesting when 2 people view a trade so differently...

The other poster has a bruins jersey in avatar....