Proposal: Hamilton+ for Connor

[Buffdog]

Hamilton for Ehlers actually makes a lot of sense now that I think about it.

Thats even worse

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Of course it does. Every player who will be a UFA at the end of their contract has the value drops as they get closer and closer to UFA. Next year, Hamilton’s value will drop even more.

Perhaps, but this is specific to Hamilton clearly. Teams don't want him when they realize what he is.

 

[DRW204]

Is Maurice really that “blinded” or is it Connor that is simply a better hockey player and deserve the ice time he’s getting?

And in all honesty, could it really just be that Connor is a better overall hockey player at this point than Laine and that with him on the ice, the Jets have more chance to win than with Laine?

Could it also just be that Connor’s competitive level is just a good notch above Laine’s and that it’s the fans that are blinded about their love for a certain player and can’t see the whole picture?

I’m asking because, for me, without a doubt, I take Connor on my team before Laine and I believe Maurice kinda agree with that statement too

KC had a better year than Laine last year, but Laine's first 2 years are leads and bounds better than any of Connor's. Even last year, KC was still a negative player at 5v5 and his 5v5 scoring/rates aren't really noteworthy despite playing a majority of the year with Wheeler and Scheifele. I like Connor, i think his offensive skill-set is top notch, but id expect better on-ice results given the fact he's playing 19+ mins/night with Scheifele+Wheeler. The Jets would have been better with Ehlers on that top line than Connor imo.

 

[Stickpucker]

Hamilton the pig was really the secret to Carolina s success and who you should be targeting.

 

[Baksfamous112]

KC had a better year than Laine last year, but Laine's first 2 years are leads and bounds better than any of Connor's. Even last year, KC was still a negative player at 5v5 and his 5v5 scoring/rates aren't really noteworthy despite playing a majority of the year with Wheeler and Scheifele. I like Connor, i think his offensive skill-set is top notch, but id expect better on-ice results given the fact he's playing 19+ mins/night with Scheifele+Wheeler. The Jets would have been better with Ehlers on that top line than Connor imo.

But there’s a reason why Maurice has made those comments and all the rumors around Laine & leadership group. While some, if not most of it is probably exaggerated, I wouldn’t be surprised if Wheeler and Scheifele prefer to play with a guy like Connor instead of Laine. There’s a reason why players like to play with guys like like that. I remember when I was younger there was this guy on my team. He wasn’t the most talented player on the team. He had an average shot, average vision but his competitiveness was off the chart and for some reasons everyone wanted to play with him because they knew that he was going all in every shift, going into corners winning most of puck battles, rushing the net etc..

I just think that while Laine is more talented, a guy like Connor is just a better, more useful hockey player overall

 

[Hunter368]

Hamilton for Ehlers actually makes a lot of sense now that I think about it.

Not from a Jets POV, again it's an easy no.

 

[DRW204]

But there’s a reason why Maurice has made those comments and all the rumors around Laine & leadership group. While some, if not most of it is probably exaggerated, I wouldn’t be surprised if Wheeler and Scheifele prefer to play with a guy like Connor instead of Laine. There’s a reason why players like to play with guys like like that. I remember when I was younger there was this guy on my team. He wasn’t the most talented player on the team. He had an average shot, average vision but his competitiveness was off the chart and for some reasons everyone wanted to play with him because they knew that he was going all in every shift, going into corners winning most of puck battles, rushing the net etc..

I just think that while Laine is more talented, a guy like Connor is just a better, more useful hockey player overall

not disputing what Maurice says or what he thinks, but just saying Laine's on-ice results career to date are better than Connor's even with Laine's poor season. Scheifele and Wheeler got out-chanced and out-scored with Connor (CSW) next to them last year. They were statistically one of the worst 'top line' across the league, then factor in the line of Ehlers-Little-Laine (ELL) seriously devoid of chemistry. Whatever bro-mance Maurice had for Connor-Scheifele-Wheeler last year hurt the team's overall top 6s results and this team probably won't reach its full potential if that's the case. CSW was a (-6) or 44%GF share last season, for 3 very talented players, it wasn't working as much a Maurice was projecting. The Jets were a very mediocre 5v5 team last year, they won a lot of games bc of an elite PP which wouldn't be elite if Laine wasn't on it.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

Perhaps, but this is specific to Hamilton clearly. Teams don't want him when they realize what he is.

I thought it was Hamilton who spurned the Bruins (which is why a portion of that fanbase can't let it go)?

 

[MinJaBen]

Did someone just use EA sports to show true player value? Get a grip man

He literally followed that up with “on a serious note...”

 

[Farmboy Patty]

I can see the Jets pulling of a trade with Carolina for a D-man. The Jets are thin at D and C, and Carolina has some interesting players that they could move for a scoring winger. I would see Laine as a better fit on the Hurricanes though, but that would require a larger package. Everything is possible and crazier things have happened in this league.

 

[Lempo]

I wish chevy drafted his brother
John who was available in the 7th round

Looks like he needs to go back in time to get John Connor then.

 

[BatVader]

Maybe something around Ehlers for Pesce, though I’d prefer not to give up any of our top 6 guys..... with the obvious exception of Little.

 

[Channelcat]

Connor is one the last guys they'd trade. Better shot at getting Laine.

 

[General Disarray]

There is a fit between the two teams. Canes loaded on D and need a winger, the Jets the opposite. It should be Connor for Pesce though. Don't know who adds. Jets don't need Connor since they have enough wingers. Ehlers is a better contract to keep.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Maybe something around Ehlers for Pesce, though I’d prefer not to give up any of our top 6 guys..... with the obvious exception of Little.

Winnipeg offered Ehlers for a Carolina RHD earlier in the off-season, per Seravalli. Presumably Pesce was the target. Carolina rejected that. The Gardiner signing should have no bearing on Pesce; it pretty much assures one of Faulk/Hamilton is heading out in the near future.

 

[Just Linda]

There is a fit between the two teams. Canes loaded on D and need a winger, the Jets the opposite. It should be Connor for Pesce though. Don't know who adds. Jets don't need Connor since they have enough wingers. Ehlers is a better contract to keep.

Jets would have to add

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

Hamilton is way too soft for Winnipeg

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

I thought it was Hamilton who spurned the Bruins (which is why a portion of that fanbase can't let it go)?

He has already been on two more teams, adding yet another to the list wouldn't be good.

 

[behemolari]

Faulk, Staal, Toronto's 1st for Laine provided we can sign Laine for 5 years at 10 million a year.

Laine would sign in a second knowing he will be reunited with Aho, then again not sure how would Brind’Amour see Laine

Jets wont let go Connor easily, Laine or Ehlers makes more sense

 

[BatVader]

Faulk, Staal, Toronto's 1st for Laine provided we can sign Laine for 5 years at 10 million a year.

Not saying yes, no, or maybe. Just pointing out that it would need to be Pesce, not Faulk, in any trade offer for Laine.

 

[The S5]

Hamilton's value drops by the year.

I don't think many Canes fans were disappointed with Dougie's play last year.
Yes, the guy is a bit weird, but he can play.

 

[Mighty Makar]

As an Avs’ fan, I approve this deal.

 

[GoJetsGo55]

Faulk, Staal, Toronto's 1st for Laine provided we can sign Laine for 5 years at 10 million a year.

Would you do Buff, Little, and a 1st for Aho?

 

[AD Skinner]

Looks like he needs to go back in time to get John Connor then.

Maybe they should send Jamison Rees

 

[Lempo]

Maybe they should send Jamison Rees

We are very close to combining T2, Slapshot and American Pie to make the best film ever.