Trust me I like Monahan a lot as a player, he's a fantastic finisher, but he's not as dynamic as Nico. If I had to chose right now (for this season alone) I'd take Monahan over Nico+Bratt, but I genuinely expect Nico to be a better overall player than Monahan in the next couple of years.It is unlikely that Hischiervwill ever be as good as Monahan.
And don't let that poster hatred of Monahan fool you hebisss great player and Gaudreau definitely benefits a ton from playing with him.
Hall doesn't play with 3 "#1 PMD" and doesn't have a linemate close to as good as Monahan
Quote me where I said the flames are garbage? Or are you lumping thousands of people together?Lol, so our team is called garbage... But when you guys choose players aside from the Flames, it's because the Flames are good.
Which is it guys? You're confusing the hell out of me, I've got to know the truth!
Hall on pace for 1.8 less ppg RIGHT NOWThis has got to be a joke. 4 seasons in a row of outscoring Hall and Gaudreau still can't win a poll lol.
Hall has been great this season but Gaudreau is 2nd in the league in scoring.
I guess that shine of being a 1st overall pick never comes off for some.
Hall has never matched Gaudreau's production since the 2 have been in the league. He's never done the same lol.
Gaudreau vs Hall point totals last 4 years:
64 vs 38
78 vs 65
61 vs 53
67 vs 59
I'd rather have Hischier and Bratt over Monahan and Ferland.
Hall on pace for 1.8 less ppg RIGHT NOW
teammates are on pace for less than Gaudreaus by a much larger margin
what say you?
uhh, yeah? and? we're talking about rn, not the last 4 seasonsRead my prior posts.
The D thing is getting old... your flavour of the year is the Refs helping Johnny and he flames. That's all I hear from oiler fans.Hall doesn't play with 3 "#1 PMD" and doesn't have a linemate close to as good as Monahan
uhh, yeah? and? we're talking about rn, not the last 4 seasons
The fact that he has such a large gap on those two in no way implies that he is boosting their production. If anything its just the opposite. I mean Hischier and Bratt are only on pace for 48-49 points. That's exactly where you would expect a 1st overall pick to be, and Bratt is just a beast of a player.
Hischier actually has a better P/60 at ES without Hall than with Hall. Monahan and Ferland's numbers fall off a cliff without Gaudreau.
Hall has been on the ice for only 21 of Bratt's 33 points and 23 of Hischier's 34 points (64% and 68% respectively)
Gaudreau has been on the ice for 48 of Monahan's 50 points (96%) and 29 of Ferland's 34 points (85%)
I completely disagree. Hischier is a better skater, stick handler, puck carrier, playmaker, and defensive player. Monahan has a better release and is a bit better at finding soft spots in the D, but that's about it.
Quote me where I said the flames are garbage? Or are you lumping thousands of people together?
Also do you dispute what i actually wrote? NJ has no PMD as good as three of yours and Hall plays with no one as good as Monahan. Or are you just going to talk about how your feelings are hurt?
I’m lumping all of HF, who are all the only ones that are still using the “3 #1 defenseman” joke, even though it wasn’t even us that said that. Get a new one, I’m getting bored.
I always thought Hall was a special player from when he started with the Oilers. Close poll unlike what some people sayI thought it was the Oilers who had 3 #1 Dmen?
It’s Johnny here for me and I love Hall.
I will give you an argument.Definitely Hall, no argument for Gaudreau at all.
Well we can agree both their respective teams would be barely treading water without them.
As good as Gaudreau has been this year, I actually still think he has another level. Even when he has a bad game by his standards you'll look at the stat sheet after and somehow he'll have got a point or two.
You need to stop hating on Sean Monahan. it is getting ridiculous. Monahan is not a flashy player like Gaudreau but the guy produces points. At the end of the day that is all that matters. He has done it for years now and he did it before Gaudreau was even in the league. To even say that Bratt and Hischier are better than Monahan is absolutely comical. Monahan has a high hockey IQ and knows where to be to score goals. He just does not do it in a flashy way like johnny hockey.Here is the post I was referring to.
The Flames would be fine without Gaudreau.
The Flames would be fine without Gaudreau.
In all situations this season . .
Monahan P/60 with Gaudreau:
2.93
Without Gaudreau:
1.70
Gaudreau P/60 with Monahan:
3.71
Without Monahan:
3.10
Over his entire career, Monahan's 5v5 P/60 plummets from 2.23 with Gaudreau (~2,880 mins) to 1.47 without him (~2,170 mins)