Half of the forwards can't score

[whatsbruin]

Not a revelation, but we have 6 forwards who can't score a goal.
Talbot is a small sample size on the B's, but so far no goals and only 5 for Colorado.
Paille, Campbell, Kelly, Soderberg since the new year, and Smith since about the new year cannot score plain and simple.

A team cannot win with only 6 forwards that can score. Half of these guys need to be
gone at the end of this year.

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[PatriceBergeronFan]

In terms of pure goalscorers we have Pastrnak and Marchand. Maybe Connolly if he works out. Everyone else is there for something else. It's reflected in the results, much like when we traded top scorer Kessel and 09-10 was just as bad for scoring.

 

[The Hockey Tonk Man]

can't score but boy are we tough

 

[LouJersey]

Thank God for Tuukka Rask is all I can say.

 

[BB88]

Thank God for Tuukka Rask is all I can say.

Haven't you heard, he apparently sucks and needs to be traded

Without Rask we have no chance, we are scoring 2.6 goals per game and with weak D Rask has to be lights out.

But that's what you get when you want to play too many 4th liners and don't accept the fact that it doesn't work.
+ We don't have speed without our youngsters and without speed it's hard to create scoring chances. Fighting in the corners all game does nothing.

 

[ThomasJ13]

Not a revelation, but we have 6 forwards who can't score a goal.
Talbot is a small sample size on the B's, but so far no goals and only 5 for Colorado.
Paille, Campbell, Kelly, Soderberg since the new year, and Smith since about the new year cannot score plain and simple.

A team cannot win with only 6 forwards that can score. Half of these guys need to be
gone at the end of this year.

If you believe in past performance as any predictor, you could say we have 3 forwards who can't score a goal (Talbot, Campbell and Paille), and 3 forwards who haven't scored in the new year (Soderberg, Kelly, Smith). If you compare the number of games required to score a goal in 2015 to the past 2 seasons for each of these guys, the numbers look like this:

Kelly: 10.7 games per goal in 2015; 7.5 games per goal in prior 2 seasons

Soderberg: 16 games per goal 2015; 5 games per goal in prior 2 seasons

Smith: 10.7 games per goal in 2015; 5 games per goal in prior 2 seasons

So you can either say that these 3 guys have dropped off a cliff and will continue to suck through the end of the season and playoffs, or you could say that this likely won't continue, and more goals are on the way based on the law of averages.

 

[Ratty]

No pure goal scorers though Pasternak and Connolly could be there soon. Marchand with 20 +. Bergeron and Eriksson knocking at the door with Lucic catching up. About twelve games to go. We could have four 20 + on the roster spread over three lines. Krug with 11.

 

[Ice Nine]

In terms of pure goalscorers we have Pastrnak and Marchand. Maybe Connolly if he works out. Everyone else is there for something else. It's reflected in the results, much like when we traded top scorer Kessel and 09-10 was just as bad for scoring.

I'd put Spooner in there. He's creating offense.

We have a tonne of deadweight on this team. It's ridiculous.

 

[CJDolan]

If you believe in past performance as any predictor, you could say we have 3 forwards who can't score a goal (Talbot, Campbell and Paille), and 3 forwards who haven't scored in the new year (Soderberg, Kelly, Smith). If you compare the number of games required to score a goal in 2015 to the past 2 seasons for each of these guys, the numbers look like this:

Kelly: 10.7 games per goal in 2015; 7.5 games per goal in prior 2 seasons

Soderberg: 16 games per goal 2015; 5 games per goal in prior 2 seasons

Smith: 10.7 games per goal in 2015; 5 games per goal in prior 2 seasons

So you can either say that these 3 guys have dropped off a cliff and will continue to suck through the end of the season and playoffs, or you could say that this likely won't continue, and more goals are on the way based on the law of averages.

Holy small sample sizes man. Might want to mention that Soderberg and Smith have 1 prior season each? Chris Kelly is the only one who has 2 prior seasons, so this analysis is pretty bad, especially when Kelly is probably getting worse because he is relatively old.

 

[ThomasJ13]

Holy small sample sizes man. Might want to mention that Soderberg and Smith have 1 prior season each? Chris Kelly is the only one who has 2 prior seasons, so this analysis is pretty bad, especially when Kelly is probably getting worse because he is relatively old.

That's kind of my point. The entire premise of this thread is based on a sample size of 32 games for each player in 2015. The numbers I quoted were for 79, 91 and 117 game samples for each of the 3 players in question. You want to increase those total to include October-December of this year? Then the sample sizes immediately pre-2015 increase to 127 games (Kelly), 117 games (Soderberg) and 157 games (Smith). And their games per goal ratio over these periods are the exact same as what I quoted.

Kelly probably is getting worse, but unless Soderberg or Smith have some injury, I'm not sure that it's fair to state that they can't score, as opposed to haven't scored, based on a sample size of 32 games.

And I don't even like Smith.

 

[wetcamelfood]

You're right, but they don't care. They are going to continue doing what they think works and doesn't, not anymore. They're rushing Krejci back and he's been practicing with Lucic etc. (of course he has) So say goodbye to the kids and hello back to the same old, slow, unproductive ways. Maybe Claude thinks if he can stop everyone else from scoring that will then be "balanced scoring" (of zeros across the board).

 

[Mount Kramer Cameras]

Isn't this the same for most teams? Is there a fantasy land where all four lines produce magical numbers? Bear in mind that Pasta would ordinarily have 15+

Here's a small sample size

 

[Latrappe]

We have superb goaltending from Rask since last December but still are a bubble playoffs team? It doesn't make any sense. I fully understand that fans have their favorites and love their Paille, Kelly and Soda. All these players are decent ones but it's not what the Bruins need anymore. We need forwards with finesse and scoring touch. That's why some of us want to see significant changes involving players from the cores because that's the only way to work around the Cap. If this team want to be a contender for the next several years, they need way much more then cosmetic changes.

 

[Ice Nine]

we have superb goaltending from rask since last december but still are a bubble playoffs team? It doesn't make any sense. I fully understand that fans have their favorites and love their paille, kelly and soda. All these players are decent ones but it's not what the bruins need anymore. We need forwards with finesse and scoring touch. That's why some of us want to see significant changes involving players from the cores because that's the only way to work around the cap. If this team want to be a contender for the next several years, they need way much more then cosmetic changes.

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