Post-Game Talk: Habs Will Select 3rd Overall

[Deebs]

Forsberg is lightyears ahead of Chucky. Excellent all around player

 

[Scriptor]

Can't see Price and Weber getting moved while MB is GM. Shaw's market value has to be close to nil -- I'd wait and see if we can get a less injury-filled season from him and if so, attempt to move him at the TDL. Pacioretty, Petry and Byron are the best assets to move from the lot -- although, you can only trade Petry after the draft since his limited NMC kicks in on July 1st, if I'm not mistaken.

Maybe the clause doesn't kick in until after July 1st, but you can always ask the player and they can always agree if they like the team you would be trading them to, especially if they are not wanted with your team.

Not every player will say no just to stick it to the man. Thankfully, or the NHL would be the worse league to be GM in.

 

[Habs Icing]

How much you want to bet that MB will ask Brady Tkachuk if he thinks he can translate to Center position hahahaha

Bite your effing tongue. That idea may not have occurred to the dunce

 

[Habs Icing]

Hell, a potato in the GM's position would have the following D-core going forward.

Sergachev-Subban
Markov-Petry
Mete-Schlemko

That's a potato. A cabbage - higher on the evolutionary ladder - would have

Sergachev Subban
Markov Petry
Mete Juulsen.

 

[Runner77]

Maybe the clause doesn't kick in until after July 1st, but you can always ask the player and they can always agree if they like the team you would be trading them to, especially if they are not wanted with your team.

Not every player will say no just to stick it to the man. Thankfully, or the NHL would be the worse league to be GM in.

Anything is possible but the contractual impediment exists and it needs to be dealt with. I wouldn't take it for granted, nor do we know if MB even wants to trade Petry. It's great fan fodder until it actually happens.

 

[HBDay]

Read a good article regarding the third overall pick. I'll post my favourite paragraph.. Kind of what reiterates what my train of thought has been on this pick. It's from HOTP.

Basically the writer is debunking thought processes from Habs fans.

3) Teams would be lining up to get him, we can get a lot for the pick

Pro tip: if a lot of teams are after a specific player, that probably means he's good. He's probably a player that you would regret giving up, considering you had the chance to get him for free. Why not keep a player like that? This team has needed to score FOREVER, and here we have an elite player who rifles the puck in the net top corner. Go watch some of his highlights right now
I just hope to god that Marc Bergevin goes ahead and takes him. Taking Brady Tkachuk over him would be an AWFUL move.

 

[BLONG7]

Read a good article regarding the third overall pick. I'll post my favourite paragraph.. Kind of what reiterates what my train of thought has been on this pick. It's from HOTP.

Basically the writer is debunking thought processes from Habs fans.

Awful, is MB's middle name...lord help us all.

 

[HBDay]

Awful, is MB's middle name...lord help us all.

Right though? Doesn't that make perfect sense? If teams want the pick to take Zadina or whoever then we will probably regret trading it. MB needs to think about the future more just like other teams. Stop being mister right now.

What do you think Pittsburgh is doing right now? Probably in meetings getting ready to set up for the future, not next year.

This was my second favourite segment from the article.

2) He can get traded for a young #1 centre

If the pick were to get traded, I'm pretty sure it would be worth a good centre under 23 years of age. I don't think any team in the league with a centre of that calibre would trade him away for a winger.
Ultimately, we've seen on some teams the #1 winger is better than his centreman, and those teams are doing just fine. Filip Forsberg is better than Ryan Johansen; Nikita Kucherov is better than Steven Stamkos; Blake Wheeler is better than Mark Scheifele. Considering Zadina is projected to be elite, I'm pretty sure he could play alongside a centre who is worse than him while the two would still do well.

EDIT: Yes I know that we have no center even close to Scheifele, stamkos or Ry Jo.

 

[Scintillating10]

Are you saying they took Galchneyuk over Forsberg because they thought Galchenyuk was a center, even though they thought Forsberg had more skill?

Habs are desperate at center ice position.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I disagree that Forsberg is better than Johansen and I disagree vehemently that Wheeler is better than Scheifele.

I also disagree that Zadina shares the game breaking qualities of a Kucherov who literally controls the game like a center from the wing.

 

[Captain Mountain]

Interesting attempt to breakdown the top-100 prospects in the draft on an analytical basis:

2018 NHL Draft: Spring Rankings

Some interesting outcomes from the analysis:

-Zadina at 2 and Svechnikov at 3
-Lundestrom at 7

 

[dre2112]

Right though? Doesn't that make perfect sense? If teams want the pick to take Zadina or whoever then we will probably regret trading it. MB needs to think about the future more just like other teams. Stop being mister right now.

What do you think Pittsburgh is doing right now? Probably in meetings getting ready to set up for the future, not next year.

This was my second favourite segment from the article.



EDIT: Yes I know that we have no center even close to Scheifele, stamkos or Ry Jo.

We don't have any forwards as good as Scheifele, Stamkos, RyJo (debatable), Wheeler, Kucherov or Forsberg in any position

 

[CauZuki]

Forsberg is lightyears ahead of Chucky. Excellent all around player

Yeah , I'm sure the environment doesn't factor in at all...

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

Yeah , I'm sure the environment doesn't factor in at all...

Forsberg's skating puts him on another level over Galchenyuk.

 

[Scriptor]

Anything is possible but the contractual impediment exists and it needs to be dealt with. I wouldn't take it for granted, nor do we know if MB even wants to trade Petry. It's great fan fodder until it actually happens.

I agree. Was just saying that nothing can be written off as a possibility, although many things shouldn't be based off as likely, either.

 

[Captain Mountain]

Can't see Price and Weber getting moved while MB is GM. Shaw's market value has to be close to nil -- I'd wait and see if we can get a less injury-filled season from him and if so, attempt to move him at the TDL. Pacioretty, Petry and Byron are the best assets to move from the lot -- although, you can only trade Petry after the draft since his limited NMC kicks in on July 1st, if I'm not mistaken.

If Montreal actually wants to win in the near or medium future (and it sounds like they do), they really can't afford to trade Petry. He's the only other top-3 D-man on the roster and he probably doesn't get a great return with his age, NMC/NTC and lack of value among old school thinkers.

If you can get a great return, sure. But don't move him for a late 1st and a B prospect if you want to win with Price and Weber.

 

[Habs100]

I disagree that Forsberg is better than Johansen and I disagree vehemently that Wheeler is better than Scheifele.

I also disagree that Zadina shares the game breaking qualities of a Kucherov who literally controls the game like a center from the wing.

In all this rush to get centers, I would be happier getting 2 game breaking, play driving wingers, that play center (such as Radulov, Kucherov, and Patrick Kane) than two 2nd line centers of the level of say O'Rielly in Buffalo. I know he's good. But I'd rather two Radulov's that two O'Rielly's. Bergevin is SUCH an idiot for letting Radulov go.

From the descriptions about him, it sounds like Svechnikov could be such a player.