Confirmed with Link: Habs Trade Hayden Hawkey to Edmonton for 2019 5th pick
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2014 6th round pick for a 2019 5th round pick... solid goaltender for his level, awesome name, was and is going back to Providence for one last (?) season, in a Habs pipeline with many goalies. Wonder what will be the AHL/ECHL lineup next season with Fucale and Hawkey (wasn't there yet) gone, and with the possible trade of Lindgren.
Stive Morgan
Mhm. Mhm. Mhm.
I know we have a lot of goalie prospects but I don't get why we do this if the return is only a 5th....
Ezpz
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Maybe he asked to be moved after seeing our depth. After next season he wouldn't have a spot to play in our organization.
calder candidate
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This is weird timming return seem low considering Hawkey really step up last year. a 5th round pick isn't a offer you can't refuse, he going to be one of the top goalie in the NCAA is value would only improve...
Le Barron de HF
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Still upgraded based on where he was selected. At the end of the day, if a guy like Wedgewood who is a pro goalie is worth a 5th, what should we expect for a 23 year old goalie still years away from the NHL? From an organizational perspective I approve this deal. Chances are he would have graduated after this year. Which means he would have been behind McNiven. Also when does Primeau turn pro? Next season or the season after that? There are only so many spots for goalies to see action unless they play in the ECHL or are loaned elsewhere. Plus there's the possibility that he didn't see himself signing with us with all the goalies in front of him.
Adam Michaels
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They got a 4th (would have been a 5th if the condition wasn't met) for a veteran like Montoya. And here they got a similar return for a prospect who hasn't played a single pro hockey game.
Good return.
Good return.
Natey
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I think the problem is finding him work with Primeau and McNiven coming needing the AHL net over the next couple years.
I probably wouldn't have done it for a 5th but whatever.
We've got McNiven, Primeau, Lindgren and Price is going nowhere because he's not tradeable.
calder candidate
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Lindren, Mcniven, Primeau, Hawkey ... We have no room in the NHL we have 2 spot in the AHL and 2 of these guys are in the NCAA so I don't see why we had to rush a trade right now next year we had 1 spot opening in the NHL and 1 guy in the NCAA... I isn't a bad return it just isn't a trade that MB couldn't refuse...
Booba
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Hawkey has to option to become a UFA either this summer (see the Schultz loophole) or next.
Maybe MB was scared that he would pull out a Cal Petersen
Habs also have Marcoux, who could challenge McNiven for some playing time in Laval, on a AHL contract.
Pompeius Magnus
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I really like Hawkey but getting something for him right now was probably the smart move, we're 5 or 6 prospects deep at that position, there's just not a ton of future opportunities. Heck, with Niemi staying there's no opening for Lindgren right now which probably means McNiven will be playing in the ECHL again.
MarkovsKnee
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I was expecting this. Needed to be done. He's going into his final year which means he needs a contract at the end of this year.
NHL: Price, Niemi
AHL: McNiven, Lindgren
ECHL: Marcoux
Where's he going to play?
Even next year if Lindgren moves up you can go with McNiven & Marcoux in the AHL and then Primeau may arrive.
Way too much quality competition & he could decide not to sign with Montreal because of it.
Smart & necessary trade.
NHL: Price, Niemi
AHL: McNiven, Lindgren
ECHL: Marcoux
Where's he going to play?
Even next year if Lindgren moves up you can go with McNiven & Marcoux in the AHL and then Primeau may arrive.
Way too much quality competition & he could decide not to sign with Montreal because of it.
Smart & necessary trade.
montreal
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Yea I wouldn't have done this as I expect him to have a big year but at least they get a pick in case he doesn't want to sign after next season.
He could have used the loophole but that ended as you have to inform your team ahead of time. I'd have to look up the date, I think it's June 1st. Now he may look at his options next year and opt to not sign and become a UFA on August 15th, as he should have teams interested in him since he'll likely be one of the top goalies again and his team could go far next year.
well we know he's going to be in the NCAA playing on a team that's on the up swing and could be one of the better teams in the NCAA especially if he plays like he did in the 2nd half.
Niemi I would be shocked if he's here past next season as he'll be hard pressed to be as good as he was this year. That moves Lindgren up to backup Price. McNiven hasn't played much and needs to be better so you would have McNiven and then Hawkey either as backup or in the ECHL.
Primeau makes Hawkey expendable but they could have just left in in the NCAA for one more year to give them another look at McNiven and see how Hawkey adjusted to the pro game.
Marcoux who cares he's on an AHL contract so unless he impresses, he's just depth for the minors.
Having both a Hayden and Cayden in the pipeline was too much caucasity, it makes sense one had to be moved.
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Habs have also signed an ex-Q goalie, Marcoux, who used to play for Bouchard in B&B.
montreal
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.I like this, if you can get future picks for a player you don't see having a shot with our goalie depth take it. I also liked trading away picks this year for next year. If your scouts feel that you don;t like anyone at your pick selection then trade for more picks or a year out. This way instead of gambling on someone you really don't want just trade for future picks. I'd love to roll picks forward and get more try to keep 10+ picks a year and you increase your odds of finding some gems.
Adam Michaels
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There's also Samuel Harvey, who Habs invited to their development camp next week (and I believe he was at the Habs' combine). Maybe they end up signing him to an AHL/ECHL contract and they go with:
NHL: Price & Niemi
AHL: Lindgren & McNiven
ECHL: Marcoux & Harvey (??)
Prospect: Primeau
NHL: Price & Niemi
AHL: Lindgren & McNiven
ECHL: Marcoux & Harvey (??)
Prospect: Primeau
Scintillating10
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Management was pretty high on him when they drafted him. Must have went sour somewhere along the line
The emergence of Primeau made this kid expendable. Hockey trade
Adam Michaels
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Not all trades mean the team's relationship with the player went sour. I think the way Primeau played last year, as well as the signing of Marcoux for AHL/ECHL made Hawkey expendable. This was just a case where Habs traded the lowest goalie prospect on the totem pole (only ahead of Fucale, who will most probably be let go) and they got a draft pick in return.
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