Habs Tonight on PK vs Max debate

[sandviper]

I will always remember the last media scrum PK gave in the Habs locker room.

'I never question myself" was one of his answers....

Then, on his way out of the dressing room, he stopped by Patches, who was with other media, interrupted him, and gave him some kind of a hug. Patches was looking puzzled and embarrassed.

You left out the part where Patches actually said in the same scrum that there’s no beef and PK would always take the time to play some ball hockey with his kid.

Anyhow, I get people didn’t like PK’s pushing of his brand and his personality may not be for all, but his actual character and morals shouldn’t be in question.

 

[yianik]

Whats ironic to me is that when MB was named as GM, I thought, well its a good thing he is from the Hawks because back then Patrick Kane was getting into loads of real trouble, and the Hawks were patient. This mattered to me because I was sick of the Jean Beliveau ( a legend ) standard of conduct the team held and which I thought cost us too many good players.

So I thought MB would know how to work with players personalities.

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

Unfortunately the Captain choice was between two guys that should never be captain. Both were just really good supporting players. Opposite personalities too.

Subban in his Prime was a top-5 D...

 

[Mrb1p]

Whats ironic to me is that when MB was named as GM, I thought, well its a good thing he is from the Hawks because back then Patrick Kane was getting into loads of real trouble, and the Hawks were patient. This mattered to me because I was sick of the Jean Beliveau ( a legend ) standard of conduct the team held and which I thought cost us too many good players.

So I thought MB would know how to work with players personalities.

Funny enough that you should mention this because the two players are so far apart its insane. The only thing they have in common is that they were both elite.

Patrick Kane
Known party animal
Assaulted a cab driver
Alleged sexual assault

Subban
Is black

Thats it.

 

[abo9]

Funny enough that you should mention this because the two players are so far apart its insane. The only thing they have in common is that they were both elite.

Patrick Kane
Known party animal
Assaulted a cab driver
Alleged sexual assault

Subban
Is black

Thats it.

He's not just black... he's confident and comfortable in front of the camera, how dare he?

 

[Shabs]

He had prust on talking about a game when he got into it with a ref. After the game prust was still fuming at the ref and after refusing a few times he was pressured into speaking to the media and he called the ref out.

later, he said bozovin came down and told him criticizing the ref was a "career killer" and he traded prust after that. You could tell that Weise and prust aren't bozovin fans.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

Whats ironic to me is that when MB was named as GM, I thought, well its a good thing he is from the Hawks because back then Patrick Kane was getting into loads of real trouble, and the Hawks were patient. This mattered to me because I was sick of the Jean Beliveau ( a legend ) standard of conduct the team held and which I thought cost us too many good players.

So I thought MB would know how to work with players personalities.

Well, he did want Tony Douchebagelo as well...wonder what was different about Subban...hmmm, lemme think...

 

[Mrb1p]

He had prust on talking about a game when he got into it with a ref. After the game prust was still fuming at the ref and after refusing a few times he was pressured into speaking to the media and he called the ref out.

later, he said bozovin came down and told him criticizing the ref was a "career killer" and he traded prust after that. You could tell that Weise and prust aren't bozovin fans.

Yep, both very very clearly are not. I like this podcast a lot.

 

[dinodebino]

PKs donation as a pred

Pks donation as a hab

To be fair, PK has been great for the Montreal hospital. BUT he did not donate the 8-9M. He built a fund and promised to raise the millions. Just to make it clear. I loved him a lot. But there has been a lot of false press built with that story. BUT he was great for the kids. Just great.
I was PISSED when he got traded.

 

[yianik]

Funny enough that you should mention this because the two players are so far apart its insane. The only thing they have in common is that they were both elite.

Patrick Kane
Known party animal
Assaulted a cab driver
Alleged sexual assault

Subban
Is black

Thats it.

Subban had personality, was fun to watch due to his electrifying play. Montreal has been this dull organization for decades now, couldn't handle strong personalities like Roy etc. I hoped MB would be a GM who would be most interested in what the player did on the ice, and not be bothered about other stuff, which was usually crap concerns.

 

[dinodebino]

All I can say is that he was in Clode's head a lot during those famous playoffs, where the Hunchback wanted to kill Emelin.

 

[Shabs]

PKs donation as a pred

Pks donation as a hab

This is it in a nutshell. The Habs should have embraced PK. They could have had something. But He didn't fit the hockey mold and let's just say the Habs aren't the most progressive organization.

 

[Pat Riot]

PK donation exposed how cheap Molson and the habs team are. He gave more money as one individual than all the molson organisation together. It make them look very bad. They hated PK for that. Not showing for such a big donation was and still is a very bad look on Bergevin and Molson.

Just for the work and the time PK was spending with the montreal kids in need, he should never have been traded

 

[Skip Bayless]

Subban had personality, was fun to watch due to his electrifying play. Montreal has been this dull organization for decades now, couldn't handle strong personalities like Roy etc. I hoped MB would be a GM who would be most interested in what the player did on the ice, and not be bothered about other stuff, which was usually crap concerns.

#SignDeAngelo

 

[CrAzYNiNe]

I will always remember the last media scrum PK gave in the Habs locker room.

'I never question myself" was one of his answers....

Then, on his way out of the dressing room, he stopped by Patches, who was with other media, interrupted him, and gave him some kind of a hug. Patches was looking puzzled and embarrassed.

When was this? I remember his last game since I was sitting about 30 feet from where Emelin crunched him into the boards and ended his season. Did he do media scrums while injured after games? I simply have no memory of this.

 

[Miller Time]

If you want to believe yourself, it's up to you.

Indeed.
I take it you prefer the MB approach of saying a bunch of stuff you don't actually believe... Inauthentic & disingenuous behavior ain't my cup a tea, but to each their own.

 

[canucklover123]

Subby had to get traded, he was a one man kill crew at Buennaotte

That's my captain

 

[Miller Time]

You left out the part where Patches actually said in the same scrum that there’s no beef and PK would always take the time to play some ball hockey with his kid.

Anyhow, I get people didn’t like PK’s pushing of his brand and his personality may not be for all, but his actual character and morals shouldn’t be in question.

ppl with questionable character and morals probably do question "do-gooders" & high integrity ppl all the time...

 

[Kriss E]

This is it in a nutshell. The Habs should have embraced PK. They could have had something. But He didn't fit the hockey mold and let's just say the Habs aren't the most progressive organization.

I'm not sure they're the ones who wanted to be away from his donation. I feel PK wanted to make it clear this is coming from him, not the Habs.
Hearing Weise tell how he found out about it when those two were friends also kinda confirms it for me.
He calls Weise at 7am to say he's got some massive news, and then he finds out later that day when PK makes the announcement? So clearly he didn't even tell his buddies.

 

[ArtPeur]

When was this? I remember his last game since I was sitting about 30 feet from where Emelin crunched him into the boards and ended his season. Did he do media scrums while injured after games? I simply have no memory of this.

End of season. Players were available in the locker room.

 

[canucklover123]

He had prust on talking about a game when he got into it with a ref. After the game prust was still fuming at the ref and after refusing a few times he was pressured into speaking to the media and he called the ref out.

later, he said bozovin came down and told him criticizing the ref was a "career killer" and he traded prust after that. You could tell that Weise and prust aren't bozovin fans.

True I heard that one, we cant tell how much of it is exaggerated or not especially between PRust and the ref but I remember him saying the media guy came in 3 different times and told Prust the media wants to talk to you after he said no each time....

Found that so odd

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Of course, he was. But folks on this board don't believe it even if ex-teamates say it.

Problem is, you'll extrapolate polarizing into something else.

Subban has always been polarizing, it's no big news, but I bet for you now, you'll easily equal that to lockerroom cancer.

 

[Mrb1p]

I'm not sure they're the ones who wanted to be away from his donation. I feel PK wanted to make it clear this is coming from him, not the Habs.
Hearing Weise tell how he found out about it when those two were friends also kinda confirms it for me.
He calls Weise at 7am to say he's got some massive news, and then he finds out later that day when PK makes the announcement? So clearly he didn't even tell his buddies.

If that were true he wouldve said something when Laraque mentionned that no teammate went to it.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

He's not just black... he's confident and comfortable in front of the camera, how dare he?

Taking away the spotlight from the true superstar of the team, Bergevin.

 

[JoelWarlord]

I can definitely believe that the team was full of whiny babies upset that PK did his own stuff.

Just annoying that the organization didn't just tell those players to stop crying for being too stupid to figure out they could get paid for saying "je suis 4th liner et j'aime Ford"