Omar
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He said that before the chariot signing was announced.
Now its highly unlikely we go for gardiner
They’re looking for an offensive defenseman. Chariot replaces Benn.
He said that before the chariot signing was announced.
Now its highly unlikely we go for gardiner
Notwithstanding the rules around it, buying out Weise makes no sense.So we can't buy out Weise?
I would be shocked if the Habs sign Gardiner now. That puts one of Mete or Kulak (or Chiarot) in the pressbox.They’re looking for an offensive defenseman. Chariot replaces Benn.
Thank f***ing god Bergevin wasn’t dumb enough to sign Gardiner, he’s trash, Beaulieu brain.I would be shocked if the Habs sign Gardiner now. That puts one of Mete or Kulak (or Chiarot) in the pressbox.
Cousins just might end up a Brandon Prust for us (fan favorite!).
Prust in his first two (or three seasons with us...not the last season).
It's a possibility (27 pts is 3rd line material...and super for 4th line...$1mil for 1yr is not worth complaining about! this could be bargain of the year for our Habs!! Cousins will play with lots of energy/heart for a 2yr contract).
Weal and Cousins are the type of VERY solid 4th liners who can play well on the 3rd line sometimes in case of injuries (82 games is a long season).
And why is Ryan Poehling being pushed to LW by so many Hab fans? Poehling could be our future no.1 center...he shouldn't be pushed away from the CENTER position. What the ****!! (and if he's LW...it better be short-term and not long-term...he should be center as soon as possible). Hat-trick in his first game and his 4th goal is the game winner in shootout...what does a center have to do here to get some respect!?
Drouin - Domi - Cousins/Weal/Poehling!!
Tatar - Danault - Gallagher
Byron - Poehling/Kotkaniemi - Weal/Cousins/Armia
Lehkonen - Poehling/Kotkaniemi - Weal/Cousins/Armia
Thompson
Suzuki (end of season?)
Caufield (end of season? or 2020-2021?)
P.S.: and some here still want Gardiner? huuuuuge NO!! Gardiner is expensive soft butter. You don't win in playoffs with this kind of dman.
They’re looking for an offensive defenseman. Chariot replaces Benn.
Cousins, Weal, or Poehling are NOT first line material at all !
Tatar can play both wings. Byron, too. If no deal is done to replace Shaw on one of the top two lines, Byron gonna play up there in the top-six.
We are far from being sure that Poehling is NHL ready yet. He mifgt start at AHL level.
My lines if season would start tomorrow:
Drouin-Domi-Gallagher or Tatar
Tatar - Danault- Byron or Gallagher
Cousins or Lehkonen- KK- Armia or Weal
Cousins-Weal-Lehkonen or Armia
extra: Thompson and-or McCarron
Mete-Weber
Chiarot-Petry
Kulak-Juulsen
Reilly-Folin
Price
Kinkaid
Breaking up the Tatar-Danault-Gallagher line is both unlikely and a terrible idea right now.
Playing Kulak on the 3rd pair after him being Montreal's best LHD the season before is a bad idea. Playing Drouin in top-6 minutes at ES right away is a really bad idea.
You had me and then you lost me. I agree that Tatar-Danault-Gallagher are very likely to start the season together again.
But I think Chiarot will definitely be given a chance to play next to Petry, and Mete has been better than Kulak when paired with Weber so that leaves Kulak on the 3rd pairing at the beginning of the season. If Chiarot-Petry doesn't work, then he comes back up on the 2nd pairing.
Drouin is definitely gonna have a spot in the top 6 to start the season. We're short on top 6 forwards as it is and you'd want to leave Drouin on the 3rd line so we can play Lehkonen and Byron in the top 6 with Domi? No chance. If Drouin is still in Montreal when the season starts, you need to show some confidence that he can rebound and put him in a position to succeed. He's one of our most talented forwards and the most expensive one. You don't start him out of the top 6 just because he had a rough stretch to finish last season.
Barring any other trades/signings (fingers crossed), I see something like this:
Drouin-Domi-Lehkonen
Tatar-Danault-Gallagher
Cousins-Kotkaniemi-Armia
Byron-Poehling/Thomson-Weal
You could switch Byron and Cousins, and Weal and Armia I guess but Byron and KK really didn't have any chemistry last year and Byron-Thomson-Weal was a good 4th line. Byron could also have Lehkonen's spot on the first line. Anyway, we're clearly lacking a top 6 winger so I expect a revolving door in that spot until something works for a significant stretch.
You had me and then you lost me. I agree that Tatar-Danault-Gallagher are very likely to start the season together again.
But I think Chiarot will definitely be given a chance to play next to Petry, and Mete has been better than Kulak when paired with Weber so that leaves Kulak on the 3rd pairing at the beginning of the season. If Chiarot-Petry doesn't work, then he comes back up on the 2nd pairing.
Drouin is definitely gonna have a spot in the top 6 to start the season. We're short on top 6 forwards as it is and you'd want to leave Drouin on the 3rd line so we can play Lehkonen and Byron in the top 6 with Domi? No chance. If Drouin is still in Montreal when the season starts, you need to show some confidence that he can rebound and put him in a position to succeed. He's one of our most talented forwards and the most expensive one. You don't start him out of the top 6 just because he had a rough stretch to finish last season.
Barring any other trades/signings (fingers crossed), I see something like this:
Drouin-Domi-Lehkonen
Tatar-Danault-Gallagher
Cousins-Kotkaniemi-Armia
Byron-Poehling/Thomson-Weal
You could switch Byron and Cousins, and Weal and Armia I guess but Byron and KK really didn't have any chemistry last year and Byron-Thomson-Weal was a good 4th line. Byron could also have Lehkonen's spot on the first line. Anyway, we're clearly lacking a top 6 winger so I expect a revolving door in that spot until something works for a significant stretch.
Cousins, Weal, or Poehling are NOT first line material at all !
Byron can play in a top-six role. No business to be on a 4th line.
Byron can play in a top-six role. No business to be on a 4th line.
From both a results and a expected results perspective, Kulak-Petry (and Kulak-Weber) were Montreal's best D pairings. By a lot. Those pairs were among the better combinations in the entire NHL. Chiarot has utility (especially defensively), but he was mostly carried by Buff in Winnipeg. You reward good play. Kulak demonstrated he can play in the top-4 and do it really well. Why mess with that confidence and results for a guy like Chiarot? Makes no sense whatsoever. In addition, we should have learned by now that Petry doesn't work well with defense-heavy D-men. He struggled with Emelin and was a disaster with Alzner. Why expect Chiarot to be any different.
As for Drouin, we're talking about if the season started tomorrow. And Drouin absolutely has to re-earn a spot in the top-6 right now. Lehkonen, Tatar, Gallagher and Byron deserve to be ahead of him right now. Montreal tried handing Drouin a spot on a silver platter twice now. Now he should have to earn it.
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Kulak-Weber worked for a couple of games but the pairing was broken and that spot was given back to Mete for a reason. Kulak made too many mistakes on the first pairing.
Lehkonen and Byron deserve to be ahead of Drouin because of what? Because they work hard? Drouin still outscored them by a pretty wide margin and at the end of the day, production is what you want from your top 6 forwards. You don't start a season with your best forwards on the 3rd line. Would you have been in favor of Galchenyuk starting the season as a 4th line LW?
Maybe but that's where he played at the end of last season. He will probably be tried with Drouin and Domi but from what I remember, it didn't really work last season. Besides, if the lines turn out to be something like what I said, the 3rd and 4th lines will have almost as much ice time and Byron will play on the PK and maybe on the PP.
Kulak-Weber worked for a couple of games but the pairing was broken and that spot was given back to Mete for a reason. Kulak made too many mistakes on the first pairing.
Lehkonen and Byron deserve to be ahead of Drouin because of what? Because they work hard? Drouin still outscored them by a pretty wide margin and at the end of the day, production is what you want from your top 6 forwards. You don't start a season with your best forwards on the 3rd line. Would you have been in favor of Galchenyuk starting the season as a 4th line LW?
I still hink Byron could be used on a second line (not ideal, but...) with Danault and Tatar. let the big guns play together (Drouin-Domi-Gally).
I would be shocked if the Habs sign Gardiner now. That puts one of Mete or Kulak (or Chiarot) in the pressbox.
The lineup still has a gaping hole at LD. And aside from dead cat bounce I'm not sure how the PP is going to be a whole lot better. Bergevin's moves this summer haven't really addressed those glaring problems.They made the right decision, anyone who gives Gardiner term is going to sorely regret it.
As it stands right now it looks like Cousins will bump Thompson to the 13th forward and Chiarot bumps Reilly to the press box alongside either Folin or Juulsen.
I really like the way the lineup is constructed other than Drouin not fitting anywhere. Hopefully he can extract his head from his digestive tract.
The lineup still has a gaping hole at LD. And aside from dead cat bounce I'm not sure how the PP is going to be a whole lot better. Bergevin's moves this summer haven't really addressed those glaring problems.
Looking at the contracts Johannson, Dzingel and Ferland (once fairly coveted UFAs) got in this 'second wave' of signings, I don't think that Gardiner is going to get the 7X7 some people predicted. If he could be signed at 3 years x 5-ish it would be worth a go.
Maybe Drouin could be traded for a legit top 4 LD, but the team's wing depth isn't really that great, so a JD trade for a D leaves the top 6 winger depth as Tatar, Gally, plus two guys who really profile better in the bottom 6 (Byron, Armia, Lek, Weal).
The lineup still has a gaping hole at LD. And aside from dead cat bounce I'm not sure how the PP is going to be a whole lot better. Bergevin's moves this summer haven't really addressed those glaring problems.
Looking at the contracts Johannson, Dzingel and Ferland (once fairly coveted UFAs) got in this 'second wave' of signings, I don't think that Gardiner is going to get the 7X7 some people predicted. If he could be signed at 3 years x 5-ish it would be worth a go.
Maybe Drouin could be traded for a legit top 4 LD, but the team's wing depth isn't really that great, so a JD trade for a D leaves the top 6 winger depth as Tatar, Gally, plus two guys who really profile better in the bottom 6 (Byron, Armia, Lek, Weal).
While Byron is not a 4th Liner he damn sure isn’t top 6 material either. Excellent 3rd Liner, nothing more.Byron can play in a top-six role. No business to be on a 4th line.