Proposal: Habs Selling

[BigHabs]

I believe Bergevin is going to stick to his guns and not trade any prospects and high picks for anything at the deadline. There could be a deal with a player with term, that would be an upgrade maybe.

The only other option is taking on camp dumps for asset retrieval.

So with that said I wonder what middle of the pack picks we could get for:

Jordie Benn
Christian Folin
Charles Hudon
Mike Reilly

Also what could be some cap dumps from “contenders” looking for salary gained to upgrade their team more.? No Lucic. I’m wondering specifically to contenders.

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[Tres Peleches]

Andrew Ladd is coming back from injury, but earlier in the year he actually looked halfway decent. Scored in his first Conditioning stint with the Sound Tigers as well. He would be a dump for the Islanders but not completely useless for MTL since they’re most definitely in the hunt

 

[DoobieDubas]

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meh

 

[Liferleafer]

I believe Bergevin is going to stick to his guns and not trade any prospects and high picks for anything at the deadline. There could be a deal with a player with term, that would be an upgrade maybe.

The only other option is taking on camp dumps for asset retrieval.

So with that said I wonder what middle of the pack picks we could get for:

Jordie Benn
Christian Folin
Charles Hudon
Mike Reilly

Also what could be some cap dumps from “contenders” looking for salary gained to upgrade their team more.? No Lucic. I’m wondering specifically to contenders.

Not interested in the players you have available, but if Marleau would waive, what's the cost for Montreal to take his final year?

 

[Mersss]

Not interested in the players you have available, but if Marleau would waive, what's the cost for Montreal to take his final year?

Liljegren.

Habs sure aren't helping the Leafs ge out of their cap hell and keep their young core together w/out a SIGNIFICANT return.

Same for the other 29GM in the league.

 

[Liferleafer]

Liljegren.

Habs sure aren't helping the Leafs ge out of their cap hell and keep their young core together w/out a SIGNIFICANT return.

Same for the other 29GM in the league.

Oh....so the OP's idea isn't the plan...got it.

 

[koyvoo]

Not interested in the players you have available, but if Marleau would waive, what's the cost for Montreal to take his final year?

Id imagine the leafs probably won’t want to pay whatever any team would want to take that last year of Marleau’s contract.

 

[Mersss]

Oh....so the OP's idea isn't the plan...got it.

Yeah he's looking for cap dumps from contenders.

MArleau is a cap dump.

OP never said he'd take a cap dump for free. OP's looking for a similar deal to the Steve Mason trade we made w/ Winnipeg.

Unfortunately Habs don't need anymore wingers (Kapanen) and do not need other 3-4th liners (Johnsson, Brown).

The price for the Habs to take on that contract is based on 2 things

1- Division Rival
2- Helping Toronto keeping their team together w/out losing anythign valuable

A it is now, TOR will HAVE to lose at least one of their young talent to be able to fit everyone under their core. They'll have to trade one of Zaitsev or Marleau to do so. And in both cases, Liljegren or Sandin will be coming the other way. ZERO chances Leafs get away with giving a 2nd pick or bottom liners like Johnsson

 

[Liferleafer]

Yeah he's looking for cap dumps from contenders.

MArleau is a cap dump.

OP never said he'd take a cap dump for free. OP's looking for a similar deal to the Steve Mason trade we made w/ Winnipeg.

Unfortunately Habs don't need anymore wingers (Kapanen) and do not need other 3-4th liners (Johnsson, Brown).

The price for the Habs to take on that contract is based on 2 things

1- Division Rival
2- Helping Toronto keeping their team together w/out losing anythign valuable

A it is now, TOR will HAVE to lose at least one of their young talent to be able to fit everyone under their core. They'll have to trade one of Zaitsev or Marleau to do so. And in both cases, Liljegren or Sandin will be coming the other way. ZERO chances Leafs get away with giving a 2nd pick or bottom liners like Johnsson

Lol...no. Liljegren nor Sandin will be moved unless it's Zairsev you are taking.

 

[Mersss]

Lol...no. Liljegren nor Sandin will be moved unless it's Zairsev you are taking.

Therefore, we aren't trading with the Leafs. We do not, nor should we, help the Leafs fit everyone under their cap except if something usefull is coming back and making sure thet what's comign back hurts our division rival.

A very late 1st in 2020 isn't usefull and doesn't hurt te Leafs, Connor Brown and Andreas Johnsson would be redeundant in Habs uniform as we already have 6 wingers better then them, sam for Kapanen i'd say who's gonna ask for North of 4M anyways due to his increase offnsive produciton this year (mainly linked to the fact he played w/ AM.

Therfore, the only incentive Habs have to help the Leafs are either Sandin or Liljegren.

You're not happy? Great, we do not care! Thanks for doing business w/ us and good luck fixing that D w/out any cap leverage!

 

[Liferleafer]

Therefore, we aren't trading with the Leafs. We do not, nor should we, help the Leafs fit everyone under their cap except if something usefull is coming back and making sure thet what's comign back hurts our division rival.

A very late 1st in 2020 isn't usefull and doesn't hurt te Leafs, Connor Brown and Andreas Johnsson would be redeundant in Habs uniform as we already have 6 wingers better then them, sam for Kapanen i'd say who's gonna ask for North of 4M anyways due to his increase offnsive produciton this year (mainly linked to the fact he played w/ AM.

Therfore, the only incentive Habs have to help the Leafs are either Sandin or Liljegren.

You're not happy? Great, we do not care! Thanks for doing business w/ us and good luck fixing that D w/out any cap leverage!

OP should add "No Leafs trades" to the thread then.

All good, i will exit.

 

[koyvoo]

It’s not only division rival or whatever. No team is taking Marleau next season to help them on the ice. A team will only take him if they’re compensated with a nice asset to take him.

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

I believe Bergevin is going to stick to his guns and not trade any prospects and high picks for anything at the deadline. There could be a deal with a player with term, that would be an upgrade maybe.

The only other option is taking on camp dumps for asset retrieval.

So with that said I wonder what middle of the pack picks we could get for:

Jordie Benn
Christian Folin
Charles Hudon
Mike Reilly

Also what could be some cap dumps from “contenders” looking for salary gained to upgrade their team more.? No Lucic. I’m wondering specifically to contenders.

Obviously not a contender, but could you see a deal that sends Brandon Manning to the Canadiens? Oilers can add a small asset maybe.

 

[Mersss]

OP should add "No Leafs trades" to the thread then.

All good, i will exit.

You asked what would be the price?

Why the hell would the Habs help a divisonnal rival get rid of thir problem w/out a solid incentive? Why the hell would we do that?

We would trade with the Leafs, but the price is here, you either pay it or you don't!

 

[Mersss]

Obviously not a contender, but could you see a deal that sends Brandon Manning to the Canadiens? Oilers can add a small asset maybe.

Habs would have interest in Tyler Benson and Caleb Jones.

 

[SML2]

I can't believe the Leafs get within striking distance of a cup and you want to do a good guy like Marleau dirty. You people ain't no damn good.

 

[Natey]

Yeah he's looking for cap dumps from contenders.

MArleau is a cap dump.

OP never said he'd take a cap dump for free. OP's looking for a similar deal to the Steve Mason trade we made w/ Winnipeg.

Unfortunately Habs don't need anymore wingers (Kapanen) and do not need other 3-4th liners (Johnsson, Brown).

The price for the Habs to take on that contract is based on 2 things

1- Division Rival
2- Helping Toronto keeping their team together w/out losing anythign valuable

A it is now, TOR will HAVE to lose at least one of their young talent to be able to fit everyone under their core. They'll have to trade one of Zaitsev or Marleau to do so. And in both cases, Liljegren or Sandin will be coming the other way. ZERO chances Leafs get away with giving a 2nd pick or bottom liners like Johnsson

I would take Johnson and Marleau for a late round draft pick without a question.

 

[Natey]

Lol...no. Liljegren nor Sandin will be moved unless it's Zairsev you are taking.

I'll take Johnson with Marleau for a late round pick. Would you do that?

 

[Mersss]

I would take Johnson and Marleau for a late round draft pick without a question.

Who would he be replacing? He doesn't have a spot in our top9

Adding Johnsson to our 4th line doesn't compensate the fact Leafs are able to keep every player they already have.

 

[lifelonghockeyfan]

I can't believe the Leafs get within striking distance of a cup and you want to do a good guy like Marleau dirty. You people ain't no damn good.

I don't know what others are thinking. The ONLY reason that Marleau is traded is that he decides to retire then the Leafs can trade his contract and the 6.25m cap hit. If Marleau decides to continue playing, then he remains a Leaf for sure.
Marleau's play has really declined since last year. So the only reason he might retire is if he feels he no longer NHL good enough to be a contributor to a team.

 

[Natey]

Who would he be replacing? He doesn't have a spot in our top9

Adding Johnsson to our 4th line doesn't compensate the fact Leafs are able to keep every player they already have.

He can replace Drouin until he decides to use his head. (this is a joke).

Johnson would most certainly replace someone in our Top-9. He could EASILY play with Kotkaniemi and either of the wingers.

You also have to remember we have Paul Byron coming back as well, so we can ice a deadly 4th line instead of one that keeps costing us dearly.

Drouin - Danault - Gallagher
Tatar - Domi - Shaw
Lehkonen - Kotkaniemi - Johnson
Byron - Marleau - Armia

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Liljegren.

Habs sure aren't helping the Leafs ge out of their cap hell and keep their young core together w/out a SIGNIFICANT return.

Same for the other 29GM in the league.

We don't need another RHD. I'd do it for Filip Kral (LD) & a 2020 2nd. Of course, there's the issue of Marleau's NMC. Can't see him waiving for Montreal.

 

[Mersss]

He can replace Drouin until he decides to use his head. (this is a joke).

Johnson would most certainly replace someone in our Top-9. He could EASILY play with Kotkaniemi and either of the wingers.

You also have to remember we have Paul Byron coming back as well, so we can ice a deadly 4th line instead of one that keeps costing us dearly.

Lehkonen - Kotkaniemi - Johnson
Byron - Marleau - Armia

And how is Johnsson better than Armia or Byron?

See, acquiring him doesn't help us at all, or practcily not, but helps the Leafs tremendously. WHY BOTHER?

 

[Mersss]

We don't need another RHD. I'd do it for Filip Kral (LD) & a 2020 2nd. Of course, there's the issue of Marleau's NMC. Can't see him waiving for Montreal.

You'd help the Leafs for a marginal prospect and a late 2nd? Get reel... Even if they are RHD, what bad can it do? Easier to trade after than a late 2nd and a C prospect

 

[Natey]

And how is Johnsson better than Armia or Byron?

See, acquiring him doesn't help us at all, or practcily not, but helps the Leafs tremendously. WHY BOTHER?

How does acquiring a young, 24-year-old cost effective forward not help us? A forward who has offensive talent. A forward who has 30+ points this season WITHOUT getting a ton of ice-time. I think you're crazy. And Marleau isn't great anymore, but he's solid enough to play on our 4th line.

How is he better than Armia? You realize Johnson has half the goals of Armia's career (213 games) in 50 games this season? And it's not like Johnson is a trainwreck defensively, he's a hard working player.

I don't think you have seen Johnson play enough. Dude is a legit prospect with high end Top-6 talent.