TSN: Habs Reluctant to trade Shaw

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  1. waffledave

    waffledave waffledave, from hf

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    He is frustrated that he busts his ass every night for a team and GM who don't give 2 shits at all. Meanwhile PK isn't even here anymore and yet 95% of fans like him better than anyone on the Montreal roster.

    I mean they chanted his name in the Habs' own arena.

    He's going to go on to contend for another Norris and possibly win a cup and Gallagher's career will either die in Montreal having accomplished nothing, or he'll get traded to Colorado or some dumb shit like that.
     
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    Shaw should return a 2nd +.
    What that plus is will depend on need of other team, though I doubt it’ll be another 2nd.
    MB will not get back what he paid.
     
  3. Chez Jesperi

    Chez Jesperi Formally JGRB

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    Minimum I want to see:

    Pacioretty = 1st + blue chip prospect
    Plekanec = 2nd/3rd round pick
    Shaw = 2nd round pick
    Byron = 2nd/3rd round pick
    DLO = 4th/5th round pick

    I also wouldn’t be against any of these scenarios:

    Weber = 1st + blue chip prospect
    Gallagher = 1st or blue chip prospect
    Price = 1st + blue chip goalie prospect

    ^I don’t expect any of these to happen, but frankly it would be an excellent start to a much needed rebuild. But these don’t need to be TRade DL moves, they could happen at the draft. A lot will be determined at the draft lottery.
     
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    Why exactly would you trade a guy like Gallagher? Seems incredibly stupid. He’s young, he’s constantly improving, he gives it 150% every night...he’s exactly the type of player you want.... yet you’re willing to trade him for a 1st.

    Thank god some of you are not GMs or this team would be filled with AHLers and finish dead last every year.
     
  5. Chez Jesperi

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    Because by the time this team is relevant again, he’ll have nothing left to give. He can be a playoff warrior for a team looking for depth on their 2nd/3rd line for a deep playoff run.

    He’s a prime example of a player you sell high. His value will never be higher than it is today.
     
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    His contract is up in 3 years. It's going to be a lot longer than that before this team is a playoff team again.
     
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    The guy is 24, lets tone it down a bit.
     
  8. Chez Jesperi

    Chez Jesperi Formally JGRB

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    He’s 25, going on 26.

    He’s on a cheap contract and will need a new one (3 more years) by the time we’re ready to do anything. Keep in mind he’ll be 30 when he starts his new contract and he’ll have 10yrs of hard hockey on a small frame, typically that doesn’t mix well.

    A smart GM would be willing to move Gallagher for the right price
     
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    Gallagher is very strong for his size. It's not so much his frame but the fact he's been getting whacked in the head since junior. It's going to be catching up to Gallagher and Shaw sooner rather than later.
     
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    Exactly.

    He’s the type of the player that slows down rapidly past 30 and by 33-35 is no longer in the league.
     
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    I'm not a fan of Shaw (I wouldn't have trade for him or give him that contract) but is a good player and he does a lot of thinks very well and he would play a import role on any team he plays on, Montreal is just not a good team, bunch of complementary player that don't work. There just a lack of size and skills and player that can impact the game + weak D and C, even the goalies have been on avg. this year... I like to see Shaw traded to rebuild but in order to rebuild MB need to get maximum return and since Shaw value won't be much lower next year, team will always be looking to add great dept player for the playoff, he has experience, can win faceoff, play hard and he a proven playoff performer so I think if we don't get the deal we what we can wait till next year but next year we have to cut are lost.
     
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    Oh, next time I will put the :sarcasm:
     
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    His contract sucks. Nevermind the assets we traded to get this muppet. Get rid of him NOW.
     
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    so if another GM offered MB an excellent #1C and that GM said Shaw had to be part of the trade...i guess MB would decline the trade :eek:
     
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    Exactly. Nearly $4M for the next few years for a 35 point penalty magnet with a false reputation as a playoff warrior is just stupid, unless the team plans to be bad for the next four years and wants to play him as a first line RW to tank the team.
     
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    Shaw is the kind of guy you want on your team, but not at 4M.

    He’s the type of guy you have at 2M-2.5M that becomes an asset during the playoffs because he can give you that 4M production.. but he doesn’t give you 4M production during the season and impedes your ability to actually get to the playoffs.
     
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    Agreed. He's the kind of guy you sign early and cheap so you don't have to overpay him later. New York had this situation with Sean Avery. He left to Dallas overpaid, they hated him and his salary cap hit, and traded him back to New York where the Rangers paid the price they originally wanted for him since Dallas held some of his cap hit.
     
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    Maybe, but that loser had value before they imploded his value for 3 years. Could have been part of a trade. And its not to say the habs didn't encourage him, or make him feel he needed to do so. Look at what Syl did to McCarron.
     
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    Being reluctant to trade Shaw at this point can't be anything other than an egotistical decision? Right? Right?!?!?!
     
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    There's no need to invent this big return to make a point of how you're not happy with this whole "reluctant" business. For all we know, GM's are offering a 3rd round pick. Some read reluctant and think untouchable. Reluctant to me means he'd rather keep him than trade him, not that he is going to turn down any offer made.
     
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    As opposed to players like Kane, Toews, Hossa, Keith, Sharp, ....

    Yeah sure.
     
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    jaffy27 From Russia wth Pain

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    Then you don't know much.....but really, it went to hold on to everyone to now trading two players......so I was right.

    Just because I don't want Bergevin fired doesn't mean I'm happy with piss poor trades. You're pairing up the two and it's wrong.
     
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    Along with most of the league.......doesn't take away that he's a great player, he's just loud and that can get on people's nerves
     
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    We don't know if Shaw gonna be traded or not.

    We can just speculate....as usual... Or speak thru our behinds... as usual too

    The only reason MB would keep Shaw is to give him the third line center assignment on a permanent basis after trading Plekky away. Shaw is one of the best faceoffs men on that team (not hard...)...

    But if he can package him and get 2nd round pick + young d-man.... That's fine too.
     
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    PK LOVES the limelight. Not the usual, traditional hockey player personnality. Roenick was creating the same effect on his team mates.
     

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