Post-Game Talk: Habs lose first of back-to-back against Calgary. No excuses.

[Zorba]

Too many people here could never handle that , nor the fan base,nor the media..........that's why it will never happen,........it's a stupid Habs pride thing.......it's what they need to do but but never will unfortunately......kinda got use to mediocrity and irrelevancy for a while now

Without a full rebuild, this will be the outcome year after year

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Prices long and impregnable contract is what kills it, not how much it is. Montreal would have traded his ass by now.
And yes, I do hope Caufield works out. Good God I really do hope so...

Yeah, I agree on the length. That is killer.

The whole purpose of signing a player to that contract is to enjoy the prime years and of course we undermined it with bad teams. Which is why it’s so puzzling as to why it was done to begin with. No way Price would’ve signed had he known what was coming.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

...so what was wrong with Johnny Floaty last night??...bruised fallopian tube??...

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Players are at their peak at around 24. Tanking doesn’t make sense for us right now. ESP when we’ve got a bunch of good wingers and Price.

Waiting until Suzuki is 28 means we’ve missed his prime. We should be trying to exploit those prime years with h to sir low contracts. Bang for the buck is how you win. That extra cap space allows you to add vets. Then they move on as the young stars get bigger deals.

I don't think we'll have any choice in the matter. Barring any miracle trade or signing of elite talent on D, it will only get worst as normal divisions come back, or at the very least interdivisional play, while Weber, Petry and Price will keep getting older and broken down. Plus, we're bound to lose good forwards through FA on top of it all.

 

[Zorba]

. "best goalie we've had".............Maybe .......maybe 4th best I'd give ya!

. "best goalie we've had".............Maybe .......maybe 4th best I'd give ya!

Dryden played in front of hall of famers. Roy even played with some damn good players
Price has played on a team once that had a ppg guy..
And I believe it was in his rookie year. Price was never given any weapons up front to succeed
I remember Bergevin saying he sleeps good at night knowing he has price. This isn’t bashing Dryden or Roy. Amazing goalies. But had so many better players.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

...so I unfortunately missed last night's game; anyone wanna gimme a quick rundown of the disaster??...

Ever heard the Benny Hill theme song?

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

Ever heard the Benny Hill theme song?

...so just another normal shyte performance...awesome...guess I was lucky to spend the night in bed with back spasms; sounds like I had a better night than most Habs fans did...

 

[Miller Time]

Dryden played in front of hall of famers. Roy even played with some damn good players
Price has played on a team once that had a ppg guy..
And I believe it was in his rookie year. Price was never given any weapons up front to succeed
I remember Bergevin saying he sleeps good at night knowing he has price. This isn’t bashing Dryden or Roy. Amazing goalies. But had so many better players.

indeed...

Price playing for team canada was almost unbeatable.

Give him Savard, Robinson, Lapointe on D and Lafleur, Gainey, Shutt et. up front... or the 90's/00's devils or Avs... and he'd be in the top 5 all time conversation easily.

 

[Zorba]

indeed...

Price playing for team canada was almost unbeatable.

Give him Savard, Robinson, Lapointe on D and Lafleur, Gainey, Shutt et. up front... or the 90's/00's devils or Avs... and he'd be in the top 5 all time conversation easily.

This wasn’t a diss on Roy and Dryden. Great goalies. But holy Jesus , Prices supporting cast has not been even close to them

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

This wasn’t a diss on Roy and Dryden. Great goalies. But holy Jesus , Prices supporting cast has not been even close to them

...and yet he's also got a good shot at the HHoF...tells you how much this Organization depended on him and nothing else...

 

[Gally11]

I get where you're coming from but honestly... watching the Habs isn't any less boring imo.

Fair enough haha

 

[Zorba]

...and yet he's also got a good shot at the HHoF...tells you how much this Organization depended on him and nothing else...

I think price is a shoe in for the HOF. He was great. It’s unfortunate he was never surrounded with a good supporting cast

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

I don't think we'll have any choice in the matter. Barring any miracle trade or signing of elite talent on D, it will only get worst as normal divisions come back, or at the very least interdivisional play, while Weber, Petry and Price will keep getting older and broken down. Plus, we're bound to lose good forwards through FA on top of it all.

We will not tank. We’d just remain a bubble team.

indeed...

Price playing for team canada was almost unbeatable.

Give him Savard, Robinson, Lapointe on D and Lafleur, Gainey, Shutt et. up front... or the 90's/00's devils or Avs... and he'd be in the top 5 all time conversation easily.

Lundqvist too.

Unfortunately for Price he had injuries at terrible times. 2014 was brutal. 2016 was likely another Hart nom year... 2013 he got hurt while we had the lead in game six.

He’s been highly durable but when the injuries came, they came at mostly horrible times.

 

[widowmaker]

Dryden played in front of hall of famers. Roy even played with some damn good players
Price has played on a team once that had a ppg guy..
And I believe it was in his rookie year. Price was never given any weapons up front to succeed
I remember Bergevin saying he sleeps good at night knowing he has price. This isn’t bashing Dryden or Roy. Amazing goalies. But had so many better players.

Dryden and Roy elevated their game come playoff time.......Roy single handedly won his 2 cups here........Price does not elevate his game come playoff time......His claim to fame as a hab will be his longevity and having most regular season wins because of it, nothing more.

 

[Zorba]

Dryden and Roy elevated their game come playoff time.......Roy single handedly won his 2 cups here........Price does not elevate his game come playoff time......His claim to fame as a hab will be his longevity and having most regular season wins because of it, nothing more.

Ok man. No one is saying that Roy and Dryden aren’t great. They are HOF players
But are you really gonna argue that that price has had the supporting cast?

 

[widowmaker]

Ok man. No one is saying that Roy and Dryden aren’t great. They are HOF players
But are you really gonna argue that that price has had the supporting cast?

True, he's had no supporting cast and that's obvious.......just commenting he's not, nor ever will he be Habs best goalie.....He's proven he needs a dream team in front of him to win and where he's not depended on....example with his Olympic victory.........just pointing out he's not a big game player.

 

[CHfan1]

...and yet he's also got a good shot at the HHoF...tells you how much this Organization depended on him and nothing else...

I think there is a very good chance he gets in. What really helps him is his international record. Gold at the Olympics, World Juniors, and World Cup. He was 16-0 in those 3 tournaments with 5 shutouts. He only let in 17 goals in those 16 games on 448 total shots (.962 sv%)

 

[SirClintonPortis]

The way the team is constructed, it's not going to finish dead last. It would be a team that would miss the playoffs and draft maybe 10th. Not worth it.

Anderson is pacing for 30 and TT is pacing for 40. Pencil them both in for 25 each next year. Anything more consider it a bonus. Then there's Gallagher and CC. Tatar can come back on a cheap short deal if he wants to.

The Caps had a far more expensive group and they still blew it up to get OV or Malkin. Expelling a bunch of B-listers is not a big loss.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

The Caps had a far more expensive group and they still blew it up to get OV or Malkin. Expelling a bunch of B-listers is not a big loss.

Doesn't make sense at this stage. Get a blueline.

 

[SirClintonPortis]

Doesn't make sense at this stage. Get a blueline.

"Get a blueline" realistically translates into drafting someone in the first or second round and waiting until they are 22-23 for them to reach their peak powers.

It only bolsters the case to pump up the likes of Anderson or Toffoli and then trade them away to a sucker.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

"Get a blueline" realistically translates into drafting someone in the first or second round and waiting until they are 22-23 for them to reach their peak powers.

So... wait five years to develop a blueline? No. We'd be wasting prime years of our young players now when we could be exploiting the cheap contracts they'll be on.

 

[SirClintonPortis]

So... wait five years to develop a blueline? No. We'd be wasting prime years of our young players now when we could be exploiting the cheap contracts they'll be on.

Going to have to bite that bullet and hope a Doughty lands in our lap. Because assets that are traded for usually are already used up or have little time left.

Price is a good goalie, but definitely no Hasek. Flick him off the team and start a new era.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Going to have to bite that bullet and hope a Doughty lands in our lap. Because assets that are traded for usually are already used up or have little time left.

Price is a good goalie, but definitely no Hasek. Flick him off the team and start a new era.

A Doughty won't land in our lap.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

We will not tank. We’d just remain a bubble team.


Lundqvist too.

Unfortunately for Price he had injuries at terrible times. 2014 was brutal. 2016 was likely another Hart nom year... 2013 he got hurt while we had the lead in game six.

He’s been highly durable but when the injuries came, they came at mostly horrible times.

I bet all my vcash that they won't be a bubble team in the normal divisions.

That defense is too horrid and will only get worst.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

I bet all my vcash that they won't be a bubble team in the normal divisions.

That defense is too horrid and will only get worst.

Forwards will be better. D cant be any worse.