Post-Game Talk: Habs lose 5-2 to the Flyers and it is entirely Le Tricolore's fault

[BLONG7]

That's just the thing with Mete. How much of his offensive blackhole is due to lack of development vs. what his ceiling may be. He'll definitely get better over time and his skating his elite. But, what about his offensive ability?

Did he have some offense when he played with the London Knights? He was also on Team Canada, the kid must have had some numbers with that skating ability?

 

[The Great Weal]

He’s our #2 defenseman..

What?

 

[Simarino]

That's just the thing with Mete. How much of his offensive blackhole is due to lack of development vs. what his ceiling may be. He'll definitely get better over time and his skating his elite. But, what about his offensive ability?

I think if we look at results only since he came back its true that he didnt produce offensively but the eye test is telling me that he should start producing a little offensively if he keeps creating chances like that.

Defensively hes playing alot better closing gaps perfectly and using his speed and stick to win puck battles and thats what he needs to do with his lack of size.

I dont think he will ever produce more then 30-35pts a season, but if he can become a Vatanen type of dman for us, it would be great.

 

[Runner77]

Did he have some offense when he played with the London Knights? He was also on Team Canada, the kid must have had some numbers with that skating ability?

Yes, with the London Knights in 2016-17 and also in 2015-16.

 

[BLONG7]

Yes, with the London Knights in 2016-17 and also in 2015-16.

Yes, especially his last year with the Knights...............I didn't realize the kid is just 20 years old right now...gotta give this kid some time, he has some serious wheels and the offense will come!!

 

[Simarino]

Changing the person in charge could help but it wont be enough. We need to add a first pairing LHD. And not a stay at home home good enough to play with Weber against bottom feeders but a real 1st pairing LHD able to contribute offensively speaking. The forwards we tried at the blue line on the PP really did not work at all.

Well i like the way they were setting up against Florida when Drouin was Alone at the point in the middle when he fake slapped and passed to Weber who was in the Ovi’s spot. But they’re is so many other problems to fix, we always loose the faceoff to start with and then zone entrees are terrible, we dont have any setups down low so we cant open seems for Weber’s one timer and etc etc

I dont say we should be on top of the league, but no way we cant be middle of the pack with Weber’s shot+ Domi And Drouin passing + Gallagher tipping skills a good PP coach would be able to do something decent with that!!

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

There are many words that could describe Drouin. 'Cerebral' is not one of them.

Try 'skilled' and 'selfish'.

 

[LaP]

Well i like the way they were setting up against Florida when Drouin was Alone at the point in the middle when he fake slapped and passed to Weber who was in the Ovi’s spot. But they’re is so many other problems to fix, we always loose the faceoff to start with and then zone entrees are terrible, we dont have any setups down low so we cant open seems for Weber’s one timer and etc etc

I dont say we should be on top of the league, but no way we cant be middle of the pack with Weber’s shot+ Domi And Drouin passing + Gallagher tipping skills a good PP coach would be able to do something decent with that!!

Weber is not good at zone entry so it's kind of the resp0nsability of the other dman. Add prime Markov to this PP and you totally transform it.

 

[Simarino]

Weber is not good at zone entry so it's kind of the resp0nsability of the other dman. Add prime Markov to this PP and you totally transform it.

Yeah, he should definitely not touch the puck unless its for bombing it. Domi or Kotka should be the guy getting the puck in the zone.. I would love to see Kotka on the right half wall on the 1st PP also

 

[CHwest]

There are many words that could describe Drouin. 'Cerebral' is not one of them.

Try 'skilled' and 'selfish'.

I felt it was a horrible trade when it happened and I still think it was a horrible trade.

 

[PaulD]

That's just the thing with Mete. How much of his offensive blackhole is due to lack of development vs. what his ceiling may be. He'll definitely get better over time and his skating his elite. But, what about his offensive ability?

From what I have seen. 2nd pair decent Dman will be his ceiling.

 

[Kotkaniemi15]

From what I have seen. 2nd pair decent Dman will be his ceiling.

For a guy picked 100th overall and in the fourth round, that’s a huge win.

 

[Runner77]

For a guy picked 100th overall in the fourth round, that’a a huge win.

No question.

 

[JianYang]

Disappointing loss, but I could see this coming.

Going 3-1 on a 4 game in 6 night stretch is still very good overall.

You could tell they were gassed after the 1st period, and the flyers took advantage of that. When you see guys like Gallagher reaching with their sticks rather than moving their legs, you know the gas tank is empty.

 

[jaffy27]

There are many words that could describe Drouin. 'Cerebral' is not one of them.

Try 'skilled' and 'selfish'.

Skilled and clueless suits him better.....he lack some serious situational awareness......let’s pray that comes with time if he’s to stay on this team!!

 

[Tyson]

Skilled and clueless suits him better.....he lack some some serious situational awareness......let’s pray that comes with time if he’s to stay on this team!!

Limited hockey sense, makes one or two boneheaded, soft passes every single game that causes scoring chances against.

Yzerman suspended and got rid of him for a reason

 

[jaffy27]

From what I have seen. 2nd pair decent Dman will be his ceiling.

Agree......not bad for a 100th overall pick

 

[Tyson]

At 20 and already competent enough to play against other team’s top lines is amazing to me. Mete will get his offensive game going in the next year or two. The kid is a keeper

 

[jaffy27]

I felt it was a horrible trade when it happened and I still think it was a horrible trade.

thats a tad harsh.....we didn’t trade Sergachev for John Scott.....he’s still on pace for a very good offensive season and we are flirting with the playoffs

I’d go as far as saying we should’ve gotten something better.....

 

[jaffy27]

That's just the thing with Mete. How much of his offensive blackhole is due to lack of development vs. what his ceiling may be. He'll definitely get better over time and his skating is elite. But, what about his offensive ability?

I think with Mete it’s just a lack of finish....needs a bit more pop in that shot of his and experience plus confidence will go a long way into him being able to start and finish plays that end with him accumulating points.

 

[nhlfan9191]

There are many words that could describe Drouin. 'Cerebral' is not one of them.

Try 'skilled' and 'selfish'.

Two paragraphs and 18 words is all it took to sum up Drouin. Well done.

 

[Runner77]

I think with Mete it’s just a lack of finish....needs a bit more pop in that shot of his and experience plus confidence will go a long way into him being able to start and finish plays that end with him accumulating points.

Six points in 39 NHL games for Mete this season. No goals in 88 NHL career games.

When a player possesses offensive acumen, he typically shows it before the 88 game mark. I don't know, he's much more likely to remain a one-way player.

 

[JianYang]

Six points in 39 NHL games for Mete this season. No goals in 88 NHL career games.

When a player possesses offensive acumen, he typically shows it before the 88 game mark. I don't know, he's much more likely to remain a one-way player.

I guess the reason I still hold hope for him to be somewhat of an offensive asset is because unlike most players who can't score, Mete has displayed the ability to get himself in good scoring situations, especially in transition. He just can't finish, like at all.

One thing that is apparent is that he will always have trouble scoring from the blueline. He possesses an absolute muffin of a shot, but his skating and smarts should allow him to score a few in transition, and I think he needs to get this monkey off his back before we see more success from it.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Six points in 39 NHL games for Mete this season. No goals in 88 NHL career games.

When a player possesses offensive acumen, he typically shows it before the 88 game mark. I don't know, he's much more likely to remain a one-way player.

Most of those players start much later than 19 years old.

Jeff Petry had 5 points in his first 35 games at the age of 23. Had 25 in 76 at age 24.

You can't just look at game mark and make a conclusion solely based on that. Mete started pretty young with no stepping stone into the AHL, he went from OHL speed of play directly to the NHL, 4 years earlier than a guy like Petry did.

 

[Runner77]

Most of those players start much later than 19 years old.

Jeff Petry had 5 points in his first 35 games at the age of 23. Had 25 in 76 at age 24.

You can't just look at game mark and make a conclusion solely based on that. Mete started pretty young with no stepping stone into the AHL, he went from OHL speed of play directly to the NHL, 4 years earlier than a guy like Petry did.

What about his shot? Does that get any better over time?

I mean, not everyone can be a goal scorer from the blue line. Petry has a good shot. Would you say the lack of a shot precludes him from being first pairing?