BLONG7
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Seriously, the pro scouting has been beyond awful.............let's move some of these guys out also!!
Seriously, the pro scouting has been beyond awful.............let's move some of these guys out also!!
The biggest sign of change for me would a complete overhaul of the pro scouting department. Since Vaughn Karpan went to Vegas it has been abysmal.
Pro scouting has been abysmal for many years now.
What would you have a full-time scout do in areas with limited potential for any finds?
Isn't it a bit odd for all these firings to come a couple weeks before the draft?
Maybe I'm wrong but Pat Westrum is behind David Fischer's selection right?
Because until now there was no accountability. Until recently, the only thing that mattered is what an employee's relationship to Bergevin was. Job performance or competency never entered into it. As long as you were one of Bergevin's foxhole-dwelling, f-bomb hurling buddies you got to keep your job.How was this guy able to keep his job for so long?
yikes
He's been here for 11 years under 3 different regimes... let's slack a bit on the MB hate.Because until now there was no accountability. Until recently, the only thing that mattered is what an employee's relationship to Bergevin was. Job performance or competency never entered into it. As long as you were one of Bergevin's foxhole-dwelling, f-bomb hurling buddies you got to keep your job.
I would try to steal pro scouts from Vegas. Clearly they did a great job
He obviously had the right "attitude".He's been here for 11 years under 3 different regimes... let's slack a bit on the MB hate.
They stole their director of player personnel from the Habs.
I'm all for quality over quantity.
How was this guy able to keep his job for so long?
yikes
Isn't it a bit odd for all these firings to come a couple weeks before the draft?
According to Richard Labbé from La Presse, all 4 declined the invitations to attend.The draft board and the research are done. the only thing that they could contribute is live opinions...which doesn't really matter much since the board is there. They have all been invited to the draft, whatever that's worth. I'm sure they'll all go.
According to Richard Labbé from La Presse, all 4 declined the invitations to attend.
Spend time in other areas as well.
But I think peoples point is that it doesn't really matter that the potential for finds is limited, it's not like the cost of a full time scout is going to be very much anyways. So spending say an extra 50K is worth it even if it only improves your odds of getting an NHL by half a percent.
That said, I don't think it's a bad idea to have lots of part-time scouts whose job is to essentially flag potential players. So the part-timer says player x is interesting and someone higher will come and scout them "properly".
Vegas stole the Habs director of pro scoutingI would try to steal pro scouts from Vegas. Clearly they did a great job
So what we are left are.....
Trevor Timmins
Shane Churla
Serge Boisvert - Eastern Canada
Donald Audette - Québec
Elmer Benning - West
Bobby (if you build it, he will come) Kinsella - US
Michael Krupa - Czech and Slovakia
Hannu Laine - Finland
Matt Turek -
Ken Morin - West
Christer Rockstrom - Europe
Artem Telepin - Russia
Vic Posa - US (located in Michigan)
Seems like they let scouts go in regions that haven't been great lately in the world.