HF Habs: Habs Development Camp (June 28th - July 1st) 2nd scrimmage June 30th 4PM on RDS.ca
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Redux91
I do Three bullets.
We dont sniff this guy if he was in the CHL, that much is certain, he'd of been gone in the teens
tho i AM happy mestis was comprised of men as well, same with allsvenskan for Olofsson (who helped promote his team)
I can't wait to see how Olofsson handles the SHL: he's a huge wild card. As he and his team showed, the top Allsvenskan teams can hang with the bottom SHL teams, but it is still a whole different ball game. I would have predicted 1 ppg in Allsvenskan without batting an eye, but without digging into things further, I'm not quite sure what to expect for him.
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I would want PA to use him at center, we can move him to the wing in Laval.
I remember when DLR's team got promoted and in the 0ff-season I spoke to some Swedish fans that were all saying how badly Leksand would do in the SHL but they ended up middle of the pack or so if memory is correct. Either way they did a lot better then expected. Hopefully Timra has similar success and Olofsson is a good part of the reason why.
That's fine by me. I think he could be a really good playmaking winger.
Yep, they were middle of the pack which would be a pretty good outcome for Timrå. I was perusing their roster the other day and it looks like Jacob should get a lot of playing time.
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Ylonen's speed/stride and puck handling at high speeds is nuts, really excited to see how he progresses. Kotka showed his hands and smarts (needs to work on his explosiveness/first few steps tho), Poehling and Fleury are very close to being NHL ready and they both have the tools to be high up the depth chart (top 4 D/top 6 C).
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I do Three bullets.
One has to think they love olofsson as much as we do, i think he'll get a deal soon enough, he absolutely stood out among everyone we had
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Bergevin talked about center depth during his presser, he named Kotkaniemi, Poehling, Olofsson and went straight to Houde, said he liked him during camp and said he's a very intelligent player.
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Here's a full report:
Jeremiah Addisson: Good hands, wheels and effort, as usual, but he lacks vision, runs into players with the puck, tries to do too much. He's a junior player with the puck, might be okay at grinding one day.
Will Bitten: He is a speed demon and most likely, a future grinder. He reminds me of Mitchell, a lot. Good tools and all, but he's just not good enough to be more.
Vladimir Bryuvkin: He has wheels, he made some nice passes. Another pro player, kinda like McNiven. He seemed bored out there, didn't do much even though he had the speed and skill for it. He's obviously not good enough though. KHL.
Cale Fleury: He is a man amongst boys. Hes the most NHL ready player I d say, he needs to get reps in the AHL and a lot of them. He has a really active stick and super nifty vision. Love him even more.
He's also great at walking the line in the offensive zone and loves to backdoor, didn't use his shot at all.
He's a better prospect than his brother, and he looks better than any D prospect the Habs have had since Subban? Not gonna be high end though. Likely tops out as a 20 points guy. Maybe 30 ? Idk.
Cole Fonstad: My little Fonzie got WHEEEEEEEELS . He also has really great hands, vision and tenacity. You all know I was high on Berggren ? Well, I think he's the next best thing after him. He's super skinny and not super tall though, but with that speed and all that skill ? IDGAF. His shot is also muffin like, but he gets it off quick and it was accurate. He needs to stop running into D's though, he's not gonna pull that off from now on.
Jack Gorniak: My little Gorney got WHEEEEEEEEEEEELS. Take every thing Ive written above and put it on Gorniak. Kid is a pick. He's the revelation for me in this camp.
Hagel: Didn't take a look at him, I have other things to do. He's fast tho.
Jordan Harris: Once again... Another fast player.......... With hands...... He runs in players a lot, like Fonstad and he's a bit all over the place. Physical tools are there though, and he seems to have that offensive jump. Will look at this guy closely.
Cameron Hillis: Didnt notice him once. Looked for his number but didnt see him, was he injured ? He made a few nice passes and all but didn't show much, again Rookie camp, its not the stanley cup finals.
Samuel Houde: Hey, he was fine. Good gap control, active stick. Didn't show much else. Played a lot though. Looks like a thick dude.
Ryan Hughes: Crazy wheels, he outskated everyone on the first turn of the rink, then he didnt do anything.
Alex Katerinakis: Another guy that buzzes around a lot. He's okay. Some slick passes and a few nice shots. Didnt really focus on him.
Jesperi Kotkaniemi: The crown jewel baby. always ahead of the play offensively but slightly behind defensively. Left me wanting more, at times but I also recognised he was the most skilled on the ice. Every time he had the puck he made a move. His hands are reminescent of every long stick danglers, Draisaitl, Anisimov, Malkin, Getzlaf. Long ass reach, good for defensive assignemnts, good for shooting, good for dangling. We have a player. He needs to play and play a lot though. He's thin as hell, but he has that tall and broad build, he could be a real one. The next two years are the difference between a a guy that has it but doesnt have it all and a guy like Draisaitl. Id stick a trainer to him 24/7 if I could. The wealth of a million dollar franchise basically hangs by this thread.
Otto Leskinen: Looked tall on the ice, and kinda lumbering. I was surprised to read he was only 5'11. Didn't do much out there. Few good passes but nothing more.
Allan McShane: He's good. Shot and all. Skating aint there, obviously. He looks pretty thick though and he's active with his stick, had some Gallagher annoyingness to him on the ice, really active stick.
Michael McNiven: Looked solid, though its a rookie camp and he's passed that IMO, he's a pro.
TJ Melancon: Boy I don't know but he seemed to have played the whole time. He also looks like hes 35 years old up close.
Michal Moravcik: Holy shit is this guy huge. He didnt do much aside from that :/.
Jacob Oloffsson: This guys is huge too, and he has wheels, and he has hands, and his lateral mobility is amazing, and he's a heads up player... And with all of that said, he left me wanting more. Tools, no tool box kind of guy and in this case, the toolbox is effort.
Adam Plant: Bad hockey name, tiny, has some wheels, pushed around alot. A bergy special.
Ryan Poehling: He displayed good wheels, strength on the boards, ability to direct a faceoff and win it, heads up play, a muffin shot and quick hands in tight. Broad shoulders, still thin. Needs to work on it for a year or two again. He's the type of guy thats gets 50 in a year and you don't know why.
Antony Rinaldi: He was a lot of what Waked looked like last year. He looks like a first liner... For the ECHL.
Jarret Tyszka: would be Canadas number 1 D if he wanted it. Kid is so damn toolsy, he has it all. Skating, shot, hands, vision, size, strength... but he seems to be at 75% most of the time and hes playing too tame. He has that long reach that allows him to protect the puck, he has that vision that allows him to do every thing, that lateral mobility... Such a shame, because I know he won't amount to anything. He seemed shy too, he was on the outside and didn't gel with the rest of the guys from what Ive seen.
Jesse Ylonen: AKA Baby golden boy. WHAT A SHOT. LAZER. WOOSH. Watching him on crappy internet feed to watching him in actual 3D HD AQUA PLASMA+++ VISION. That was crazy. He's a good skater, he's a great shooter, he's a high speed dangler. Razzle Dazzle. But I could break him in half without trying. Those are the smallest legs Ive seen, ever. He's a project, he needs to play for a few years in the minors. He could probably hang on right now on account of his shot, hands and speed, but we need much more from him.
Note that Ive seen most of those gus on tape save for a few NCAA/USHL/WTV and i probably have a case of confirmation bias.
Jeremiah Addisson: Good hands, wheels and effort, as usual, but he lacks vision, runs into players with the puck, tries to do too much. He's a junior player with the puck, might be okay at grinding one day.
Will Bitten: He is a speed demon and most likely, a future grinder. He reminds me of Mitchell, a lot. Good tools and all, but he's just not good enough to be more.
Vladimir Bryuvkin: He has wheels, he made some nice passes. Another pro player, kinda like McNiven. He seemed bored out there, didn't do much even though he had the speed and skill for it. He's obviously not good enough though. KHL.
Cale Fleury: He is a man amongst boys. Hes the most NHL ready player I d say, he needs to get reps in the AHL and a lot of them. He has a really active stick and super nifty vision. Love him even more.
He's also great at walking the line in the offensive zone and loves to backdoor, didn't use his shot at all.
He's a better prospect than his brother, and he looks better than any D prospect the Habs have had since Subban? Not gonna be high end though. Likely tops out as a 20 points guy. Maybe 30 ? Idk.
Cole Fonstad: My little Fonzie got WHEEEEEEEELS . He also has really great hands, vision and tenacity. You all know I was high on Berggren ? Well, I think he's the next best thing after him. He's super skinny and not super tall though, but with that speed and all that skill ? IDGAF. His shot is also muffin like, but he gets it off quick and it was accurate. He needs to stop running into D's though, he's not gonna pull that off from now on.
Jack Gorniak: My little Gorney got WHEEEEEEEEEEEELS. Take every thing Ive written above and put it on Gorniak. Kid is a pick. He's the revelation for me in this camp.
Hagel: Didn't take a look at him, I have other things to do. He's fast tho.
Jordan Harris: Once again... Another fast player.......... With hands...... He runs in players a lot, like Fonstad and he's a bit all over the place. Physical tools are there though, and he seems to have that offensive jump. Will look at this guy closely.
Cameron Hillis: Didnt notice him once. Looked for his number but didnt see him, was he injured ? He made a few nice passes and all but didn't show much, again Rookie camp, its not the stanley cup finals.
Samuel Houde: Hey, he was fine. Good gap control, active stick. Didn't show much else. Played a lot though. Looks like a thick dude.
Ryan Hughes: Crazy wheels, he outskated everyone on the first turn of the rink, then he didnt do anything.
Alex Katerinakis: Another guy that buzzes around a lot. He's okay. Some slick passes and a few nice shots. Didnt really focus on him.
Jesperi Kotkaniemi: The crown jewel baby. always ahead of the play offensively but slightly behind defensively. Left me wanting more, at times but I also recognised he was the most skilled on the ice. Every time he had the puck he made a move. His hands are reminescent of every long stick danglers, Draisaitl, Anisimov, Malkin, Getzlaf. Long ass reach, good for defensive assignemnts, good for shooting, good for dangling. We have a player. He needs to play and play a lot though. He's thin as hell, but he has that tall and broad build, he could be a real one. The next two years are the difference between a a guy that has it but doesnt have it all and a guy like Draisaitl. Id stick a trainer to him 24/7 if I could. The wealth of a million dollar franchise basically hangs by this thread.
Otto Leskinen: Looked tall on the ice, and kinda lumbering. I was surprised to read he was only 5'11. Didn't do much out there. Few good passes but nothing more.
Allan McShane: He's good. Shot and all. Skating aint there, obviously. He looks pretty thick though and he's active with his stick, had some Gallagher annoyingness to him on the ice, really active stick.
Michael McNiven: Looked solid, though its a rookie camp and he's passed that IMO, he's a pro.
TJ Melancon: Boy I don't know but he seemed to have played the whole time. He also looks like hes 35 years old up close.
Michal Moravcik: Holy shit is this guy huge. He didnt do much aside from that :/.
Jacob Oloffsson: This guys is huge too, and he has wheels, and he has hands, and his lateral mobility is amazing, and he's a heads up player... And with all of that said, he left me wanting more. Tools, no tool box kind of guy and in this case, the toolbox is effort.
Adam Plant: Bad hockey name, tiny, has some wheels, pushed around alot. A bergy special.
Ryan Poehling: He displayed good wheels, strength on the boards, ability to direct a faceoff and win it, heads up play, a muffin shot and quick hands in tight. Broad shoulders, still thin. Needs to work on it for a year or two again. He's the type of guy thats gets 50 in a year and you don't know why.
Antony Rinaldi: He was a lot of what Waked looked like last year. He looks like a first liner... For the ECHL.
Jarret Tyszka: would be Canadas number 1 D if he wanted it. Kid is so damn toolsy, he has it all. Skating, shot, hands, vision, size, strength... but he seems to be at 75% most of the time and hes playing too tame. He has that long reach that allows him to protect the puck, he has that vision that allows him to do every thing, that lateral mobility... Such a shame, because I know he won't amount to anything. He seemed shy too, he was on the outside and didn't gel with the rest of the guys from what Ive seen.
Jesse Ylonen: AKA Baby golden boy. WHAT A SHOT. LAZER. WOOSH. Watching him on crappy internet feed to watching him in actual 3D HD AQUA PLASMA+++ VISION. That was crazy. He's a good skater, he's a great shooter, he's a high speed dangler. Razzle Dazzle. But I could break him in half without trying. Those are the smallest legs Ive seen, ever. He's a project, he needs to play for a few years in the minors. He could probably hang on right now on account of his shot, hands and speed, but we need much more from him.
Note that Ive seen most of those gus on tape save for a few NCAA/USHL/WTV and i probably have a case of confirmation bias.
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Yeah, I didn't see much from him... He's most likely a career AHLer with a few stints in the ECHL. Sorry Joel, you just werent that good.
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no hurry, I would bring him over for 2019-20 to start in the AHL, then lets see how things progress... same thing with Ylonen...
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thats not a problem to me since he had no issue with that last u18, its more of an adjustment to do on smaller ice...
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I think it's a popular opinion that the habs reached for kokopuff. Brian Burke said it himself on tsn that Montreal are reaching for a center. Not saying koko will be a bust but he wasnt the best player available on many lists. Zdina and tkachuk could be pencilled into the habs roster immediately where as koko will need a few years if he ever makes it. I'll take the sure bet in zdina any day over the fishing expedition Timmins went on for koko. Timmins poor record speaks for itself
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Hardly a reach, and I wouldn't trust Burke's word when it comes to scouting young talent (trading up for Tyler Biggs)
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No Verbeek. Still recovering from a broken arm or wrist ( was never revealed locally).
I think fans will like him. Of the fringe types like Bitten, I like his chances to eventually make it.
I think fans will like him. Of the fringe types like Bitten, I like his chances to eventually make it.
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He could make it. He's never going to be as good as zdina. Koko didn't even play for the Finnish junior team a tournament zdina n tkachuk both dominated. So how did he get picked over both of them. Based on a "b" team under 18s? "Facepalm
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Kotkaniemi is almost a full year younger than Zadina and Brady.
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