notDatsyuk
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Mitch is a year younger and has more points, but Willy has more skill and is the better player.
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rumman
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don't let Nylander go to free agency, if his ask is ridiculous you have to trade him. Marner's not getting a raise, in fact he should come in well under 10, if he doesn't like it, let him walk.........
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Lol not a chance....Marner is far more skillful and a better player
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notDatsyuk
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Let's just say your opinion seems to be the minorty one.
The Leaf solution. Trade all your picks, lose first round and let Willy walk cause he got offered $12.5M elsewhere.This isnt a sentimental decision, it's math.Treveling has to make a tough choice and if he is wrong, they all get fired.
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diceman934
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Well posters on here have proven they know nothing about judging hockey players. Most on here said Morgan Rielly was a 3rd pairing d man or worse a forward last year. Which was a joke a very bad joke.
Marner is vastly superior to Nylander. Cost us a point tonight
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No wonder people dislike our board so much looking at the results of this vote is a major reason. Marner is so much better yet most on here want to trade him over Nylander...year after year Marner out produces him and will again this year and people still think Nylander is better....newsflash he is not!
notDatsyuk
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Mitch wasn't very good, but I don't think it's fair to blame him for the loss.
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Marner's great during the regular season and the first few games of the playoffs but then he drops off a cliff.
Marner's career playoff production
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Games 1-4 - 1.19 PPG
Games 5-7 - 0.47 PPG
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Year after year Marner gets premium minutes with Matthews ,for example last year he played on average 24:08 compared to Nylanders 18:45.
Mitch is playing significantly more minutes in playoffs. Nylander is superior to Marner in playoffs. Mover point per /60 , significantly more goals.
btw stats from 2017-18 - 2022- 23
Marner 22:24 vs 17:48 Nylander
Tell me more about Marner out-producing Nylander please.
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So funny to see any proposals involving Matthews always being met with scorn, childish insults and general hate.
We have won 1 playoff round, yes 1 round, and were lucky to do so, in how many years?
How many more times getting bounced like an old rubber ball is it going to take to see that nobody, but nobody on this team is "untouchable?"
Even Gretzky got traded and thats after 4 Stanley's because Pocklington, through whatever malfeasence and the NHLs desire to sell the game in the states had a moment of Kismet. Off to LA like Bob's yer Uncle. No fears, no tears, and nobody looked back.
While the Leafs could afford a payroll of 110m, the salary cap says no, and it's a hard no. That hard no means zero flexibility, no flexibility means the Leafs will find themselves on this same madding treadmill until something changes. That very treadmill spells mediocrity for the club and it's fans will have to live with it.
We have won 1 playoff round, yes 1 round, and were lucky to do so, in how many years?
How many more times getting bounced like an old rubber ball is it going to take to see that nobody, but nobody on this team is "untouchable?"
Even Gretzky got traded and thats after 4 Stanley's because Pocklington, through whatever malfeasence and the NHLs desire to sell the game in the states had a moment of Kismet. Off to LA like Bob's yer Uncle. No fears, no tears, and nobody looked back.
While the Leafs could afford a payroll of 110m, the salary cap says no, and it's a hard no. That hard no means zero flexibility, no flexibility means the Leafs will find themselves on this same madding treadmill until something changes. That very treadmill spells mediocrity for the club and it's fans will have to live with it.
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If somebody offers Willy 12.5 Tre better not even consider matching that.
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He shot the puck over the glass 5 years ago though.
I don’t think there are many that take some of these fans opinions seriously. Pretty ignorant in their understanding of the game.
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I would’ve traded him some time ago for like a Keller/Chychrun package out of Arizona. That ship has sailed.
We have to make some choice. We are trying to win a cup not dazzle with reg season stats when the games are easy. Marner isn't a big playoff producer.Far better than Marner have been traded after doing far more. You need to get over some sentimental attachment to players. This teams hand will get forced.
He can't match that. This team was misbuilt. There are consequences to firing Lou and letting some kid who never played hockey take over.
What could we get for him? I'd love to know his worth. Who are some potential targets that we could get for Marner?
Who is the best defenseman we could get?
Provorov?
Theodore?
Power?
What about a very different type of forward?
Brady Tkachuk (Ottawa would laugh)
Tom Wilson (plus a pick maybe?)
I have wanted to get away from Marner's contract since he signed it, he just doesn't do it for me. He's responsible defensively and a great passer, but nothing more. He is physically weak and doesn't show up in the big moments. I have seen no improvement in his game, and he may even be getting worse. I need a lot more for $11 million.
Now Nylander on the other hand, has shown steady improvement over the last few seasons. He's in a contract season, sure, but he's been trending up for years. He can be frustratingly inconsistent, especially defensively, and at times his effort level is questionable. However, there are other moments when he is a one man wrecking crew and singlehandedly turns a game upside with skills only very few others have.
Nylander is trending up and is a finisher. Marner's growth is stagnant at best, and he typically relies on someone else to finish his plays. I'd definitely trade Marner before Nylander, but I think most of us are over estimating Marner's worth and we'd be disappointed with the return. Tre really should have unloaded him when he we had the chance.
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