Guess the new top 50 Prospects list!

[NYRangers]

Whats up with this Deslauriers theme? I saw I think 3 lists of him ahead of Montoya.

 

[Guig]

01. Alexander Ovechkin, WAS
02. Kari Lethonen, ATL
03. Nikolai Zherdev, CLB
04. Evgeny Malkin, PIT
05. Marc-André Fleury, PIT
06. Nathan Horton, FLO
07. Dion Phaneuf, CAL
08. Ryan Suter, NAS
09. Milan Michalek, SJ
10. Zach Parise, NJ
11. Thomas Vanek, BUF
12. Hannu Toivonen, BOS
13. Alexander Semin, WAS
14. Jeff Carter, PHI
15. Ryan Whitney, PIT
16. Andrei Kostitsyn, MTL
17. Anthony Stewart, FLO
18. Cam Barker, CHI
19. Fedor Tyutin, NYR
20. Alvaro Montoya, NYR
21. Alexander Steen, TOR
22. Braydon Coburn, ATL
23. Rostislav Olesz, FLO
24. Anton Babchuk, CHI
25. Ryan Getzlaf, ANA
26. Dustin Brown, L.A.
27. Patrick O'Sullivan, MIN
28. Denis Grebeshkov, L.A.
29. Jozef Balej, NYR
30. Alexander Radulov, NAS
31. Lauri Tukonen, L.A.
32. Derek Roy, BUF
33. Andrej Meszaros, OTT
34. Alexandre Picard, CLB
35. Marek Svatos, COL
36. Marek Schwarz, STL
37. Brent Seabrooke, CHI
38. Adam Pineault, CLB
39. Mike Richards, PHI
40. Dan Fritsche, CLB
41. Mike Green, WAS
42. Scottie Upshall, NAS
43. Loui Eriksson, DAL
44. Cam Ward, CAR
45. Steve Eminger, WAS
46. Maxim Ouellet, WAS
47. Andrew Ladd, CAR
48. Ray Emery, OTT
49. Keith Ballard, PHO
50. Rob Schremp, EDM

Ladislav Smid, Travis Zajac, Travor Daley, Mike Eneger, Eric Fehr, Carlo Colaiacovo, Kyle Chipchura

 

[f1nn]

1. Kari Lehtonen
2. Alexander Ovechkin
3. Nikolai Zherdev
4. Evgeni Malkin
5. Dion Phaneuf
6. Zach Parise
7. Nathan Horton
8. Marc-Andre Fleury
9. Milan Michalek
10. Jeff Carter
11. Thomas Vanek
12. Cam Barker
13. Fedor Tjutin
14. Ryan Suter
15. Anthony Stewart
16. Ryan Getzlaf
17. Andrei Kostitsyn
18. Denis Grebeshkov
19. Patrick O'Sullivan
20. Braydon Coburn
21. Ryan Miller
22. Dustin Brown
23. Mikko Koivu
24. Lauri Tukonen
26. Ryan Kesler
27. Marcel Goc
28. Rostislav Olesz
29. Loui Eriksson
30. Alexander Steen
31. Ryan Whitney
32. Alexandre Picard
33. Ilja Bryzgalov
34. Hannu Toivonen
35. Ray Emery
36. Ladislav Smid
37. Anton Babchuk
38. Andrej Meszaros
39. Mark Stuart
40. Igor Grigorenko
41. Jeff Drouin-Deslauriers
42. Eric Fehr
43. Kirill Koltsov
44. Alexander Radulov
45. Rob Schremp
46. Al Montoya
47. Mike Richards
48. A.J. Thelen
49. Maxime Ouellet
50. Josef Balej

I just don't understand why you have Toivonen behind Miller

 

[X-SHARKIE]

Whats up with this Deslauriers theme? I saw I think 3 lists of him ahead of Montoya.

He's a darn darn good goaltender, and has huge upside..... I love Montoya but Deslauriers is showing he can do it at the next level in the AHL, I want to see Montoya do that before I put him ahead of guys like Deslauriers, Emery ect.

 

[Liquidrage*]

I may be biased but I think Mike Richards being left off some of these lists is rather odd. Compare what he's done to some of the other prospects in the 25-50 range and he comes out further ahead then many of them. Not to mention, he also is known for having an all around game and being a good leader. But even just focusing on offensive stats, he's been better then a LOT of the people ranked ahead of him on several of these lists.

 

[Captain Conservative]

I may be biased but I think Mike Richards being left off some of these lists is rather odd. Compare what he's done to some of the other prospects in the 25-50 range and he comes out further ahead then many of them. Not to mention, he also is known for having an all around game and being a good leader. But even just focusing on offensive stats, he's been better then a LOT of the people ranked ahead of him on several of these lists.

Amen to that. You aren't biased either.

 

[190Octane]

I know I'm biased but I'm surprised Corey Perry can't crack the top 50 somewhere.

Does everyone feel that he's going to just suck when he gets to the NHL?

 

[leafaholix*]

I know I'm biased but I'm surprised Corey Perry can't crack the top 50 somewhere.

Does everyone feel that he's going to just suck when he gets to the NHL?

I don't think it's that he's going to "suck", I just think there really isn't anything "special" about his game. He's a big guy that can score, but his skating is a problem, he's still pretty lanky, and from what I read/seen he's not much of a physical presence for a guy that's 6'3, 197 pounds.

 

[Chimaera]

01. Alexander Ovechkin, WAS
02. Kari Lethonen, ATL
03. Nikolai Zherdev, CLB
04. Evgeny Malkin, PIT
05. Marc-André Fleury, PIT
06. Nathan Horton, FLO
07. Dion Phaneuf, CAL
08. Ryan Suter, NAS
09. Milan Michalek, SJ
10. Zach Parise, NJ
11. Thomas Vanek, BUF
12. Hannu Toivonen, BOS
13. Alexander Semin, WAS
14. Jeff Carter, PHI
15. Ryan Whitney, PIT
16. Andrei Kostitsyn, MTL
17. Anthony Stewart, FLO
18. Cam Barker, CHI
19. Fedor Tyutin, NYR
20. Alvaro Montoya, NYR
21. Alexander Steen, TOR
22. Braydon Coburn, ATL
23. Rostislav Olesz, FLO
24. Anton Babchuk, CHI
25. Ryan Getzlaf, ANA
26. Dustin Brown, L.A.
27. Patrick O'Sullivan, MIN
28. Denis Grebeshkov, L.A.
29. Jozef Balej, NYR
30. Alexander Radulov, NAS
31. Lauri Tukonen, L.A.
32. Derek Roy, BUF
33. Andrej Meszaros, OTT
34. Alexandre Picard, CLB
35. Marek Svatos, COL
36. Marek Schwarz, STL
37. Brent Seabrooke, CHI
38. Adam Pineault, CLB
39. Mike Richards, PHI
40. Dan Fritsche, CLB
41. Mike Green, WAS
42. Scottie Upshall, NAS
43. Loui Eriksson, DAL
44. Cam Ward, CAR
45. Steve Eminger, WAS
46. Maxim Ouellet, WAS
47. Andrew Ladd, CAR
48. Ray Emery, OTT
49. Keith Ballard, PHO
50. Rob Schremp, EDM

Ladislav Smid, Travis Zajac, Travor Daley, Mike Eneger, Eric Fehr, Carlo Colaiacovo, Kyle Chipchura

yikes, mike green on, but Eric Fehr not?


I like Mike Green, but Eric Fehr dropped 50 goals last year.

 

[EroCaps]

yikes, mike green on, but Eric Fehr not?


I like Mike Green, but Eric Fehr dropped 50 goals last year.

Eric Fehr was *rising w/a bullet* on last year's list at #36 before he double his goal scoring total w/50.

 

[TML]

No love for Colaiacovo and Steen.....

 

[leafaholix*]

No love for Colaiacovo and Steen.....

Get used to it.

 

[HuskyFlames]

I am just curious how Phaneuf can fall from #2 to #4. My logic is this. From last year Phaneuf has imporved and putting up much betetr numbers and dominating more than the previous season.

Has Letohen improvd from last season and playing better? Has AO improved from last season and playing better? Has Malkin improved from last season and played better? Phaneuf has imporved his offensive output by quite a margin. Has the other 2 forwards improved their offense by a good amount?

If it goes according to current stats as well as past factors than a guy like Letohen should fall a couple of places. I don't see how a #2 prospect like Phaneuf who is playing betetr could fall so much???

 

[MrMastodonFarm*]

I am just curious how Phaneuf can fall from #2 to #4. My logic is this. From last year Phaneuf has imporved and putting up much betetr numbers and dominating more than the previous season.

I am pretty sure Phaneuf was #3 last year, behind Lehtonen then Zherdev. Add in Ovechkin this year and its easy to see why Phaneuf is #4.

My top 5 is Ovechkin, Lehtonen, Phaneuf, Zherdev, Fluery

 

[Vlad The Impaler]

I am just curious how Phaneuf can fall from #2 to #4. My logic is this. From last year Phaneuf has imporved and putting up much betetr numbers and dominating more than the previous season.

Has Letohen improvd from last season and playing better? Has AO improved from last season and playing better? Has Malkin improved from last season and played better?

Malkin and Ovechkin improving or not doesn't have anything to do with it. What you fail to take into account is that last year, Ovechkin and Malkin (as well as the whole 2004 class) weren't drafted prospects yet.

 

[leafaholix*]

Kari Lehtonen, Evgeny Malkin and Alexander Ovechkin are easily ahead of Dion Phaneuf.

 

[MrMastodonFarm*]

Kari Lehtonen, Evgeny Malkin and Alexander Ovechkin are easily ahead of Dion Phaneuf.

Okay?

 

[monster_bertuzzi]

Okay?

Phaneuf a better prospect than AO, Malkin, and Lehtonen?

 

[MrMastodonFarm*]

Phaneuf a better prospect than AO, Malkin, and Lehtonen?

Here is my top 5 list again (it is just acouple posts above)

Ovechkin, Lehtonen, Pheneuf, Zherdev, Fluery. So Phaneuf better then Ovechkin and Lehtonen? No. Better then Malkin? Yes.

 

[monster_bertuzzi]

Here is my top 5 list again (it is just acouple posts above)

Ovechkin, Lehtonen, Pheneuf, Zherdev, Fluery. So Phaneuf better then Ovechkin and Lehtonen? No. Better then Malkin? Yes.

I'm going to go and make a Malkin VS Phaneuf poll at the polling forum...

 

[MrMastodonFarm*]

I'm going to go and make a Malkin VS Phaneuf poll at the polling forum...

lol, you do that. It still isn't going to change my mind.

 

[monster_bertuzzi]

lol, you do that. It still isn't going to change my mind.

I have a gut feeling most of the folks here would say Malkin is the better prospect.

 

[Mizral]

I'd take Phaneuf ahead of Malkin personally. Ovechkin? No way. Lehtonen? Nope. Zherdev? Yes, but it's close.

Right now, my top 5 is:

#1 - Alexander Ovechkin (Sorry Kari, but you can't top this guy)
#2 - Kari Lehtonen
#3 - Dion Phaneuf
#4 - Marc-Andre Fleury
#5 - Nikolai Zherdev

Close but no cigar to Ryan Suter and Evgeni Malkin

 

[thestonedkoala]

Kind of glad Koivu has dropped out, I think he'll be 50-75 because he hasn't shown a lot. Potential yes, but getting there needs a ton of work!

The one dark horse that I see in the 50-75 that can squeek in is Harding. As I said earlier, he is off this year in the AHL and the club hasn't been fairing well but he managed last night to pull off a win and only let 2 goals in and I think once he settles in, he'll be a tremendous goaltender for the Wild.

 

[NewHabsEra*]

Well, you're the dude that has Andrei Kostsitsyn and him on Montreal's 1st line as rookies, so...

You miscoted me badly..

First I was talking about next season..

Second, I was expecting Kostitsyn's progression to be similar to Perezhogin's one.. If ever Kostitsyn become a dominant player in the AHL this year, why not on the first line with Koivu?

Third.. Did Koivu complain to play with Ryder (our best winger last year)?

To me Perezhogin is actually ready to dominate the game at the NHL level... He was one of the top AHL player at the end of last season and has recently been selected to play for team Russia..

At the moment we have at least 2 young fowards ready to step up and improve the big team immediatly if ever the lock-out end up... Perezhogin and Plekanec... After that you have Higgins and Hossa (dominating the SEL in goal scoring) who I think are extremmely close to be effective at the NHL level...

I remember some games last year where your old Leafs legs were totally dominated by teams like Buffalo... We have some quality vets to lead our top guns unlike teams like Atlanta, Buffalo, Florida... I think it will be an explosive mix up and the biggest difference will be the speed and natural overall skills... What couldnt bring players like Dagenais, Bulis, Juneau, Perreault, Dackell...

If ever Kostitsyn mature enough in the Ahl this year and do what Perezhogin did last year, Im dreaming about the following line-up:

Kostitsyn Koivu Perezhogin

Hossa Ribs or Plekanec Ryder

Higgins Bonk Zednik

Ivanans Begin Ward

extra: Sundstrom, Bulis

Souray Komisarek

Markov Rivet

Hainsey or Bouillon Brisebois

If ever Kosty is'nt ready then replace Zednik by Sundstrom on the third line and bring him back on the first... Still a line-up that can outplay your old prima dona team!