Guerin Named New Wild GM

[Jaded-Fan]

Then who replaces Karmanos?

Penguins Hire Sam Ventura as Director of Hockey Research

Ventura joins the recently-promoted Guerin, Karmanos and Recchi in the Pens' front office

by Pittsburgh Penguins @penguins / Media Release
June 16th, 2017

Penguins Hire Sam Ventura as Director of Hockey Research

 

[HandshakeLine]

If Guerin loves old time hockey, you think he would have fought for Despres to stay.

Despres wasn't a rookie.

 

[DesertedPenguin]

Rutherford prepared if Guerin departs. Probably won't be an external hire as assistant GM. Karmonos could end up as the only asst. GM. Or the Pens could promote Scott Young, current director of player development. Or keep him there and just have him manage WBS.

Pens could also have WBS coach Mike Vellucci handle day-to-day operations of the team besides his bench boss duties.

What is the Penguins' plan if Minnesota hires Bill Guerin as...

 

[Mario_is_BACK!!]

Then who replaces Karmanos?

You guessed it.

Frank Stallone.

 

[66-30-33]

Recchi gets promoted to Guerins spot. Cullen becomes Pens assistant coach filling Recchis spot.

 

[The Old Master]

What is the Penguins' plan if Minnesota hires Bill Guerin as...

get lovejoy, so we can trade him to billy for a great young de-man.

 

[madinsomniac]

get lovejoy, so we can trade him to billy for a great young de-man.

As much as I hated the Despres trade, looking back we won it by TKO... unfortunately it was Despres who lost it the most....

 

[Malkinstheman]

How could anyone look at the Minnesota Roster and not want to tear it down.

 

[deathtouchtrample]

I mean if ownership wants to compete and you want the job makes sense to say you have the same vision as ppl in charge.

 

[Turin]

How could anyone look at the Minnesota Roster and not want to tear it down.

I wish all the Burke’s would go away.

And I’m not sure he’s wrong, but it’d take a couple serious moves to make them good. Especially if Staal declines (re-declines?)

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

I wish all the Burke’s would go away.

That magnificent coif has to stay part of the NHL community.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Despres wasn't a rookie.

My mistake. I thought that @pixesfanyo wrote “fought Despres”.

The intern responsible for the previous post has been sacked.

 

[66-30-33]

That magnificent coif has to stay part of the NHL community.

Good ol Sonic the Hedgehog!

As for what Guerin is saying...he's trying to get a GM job. Start with trading for JJ.

 

[Peat]

You say magnificent coif, I say crap Knuckles cosplay.

 

[Jacob]

The best part is he grew that hair just to spite his son. Total alpha move.

 

[billybudd]

How could anyone look at the Minnesota Roster and not want to tear it down.

Hextall has this weird thing about wanting to tank serviceable teams to start from scratch.

 

[Jaded-Fan]

..

 

[Andy99]

Looks like Guerin might not be the leading candidate anymore but one of three...

 

[Gurglesons]

Hextall has this weird thing about wanting to tank serviceable teams to start from scratch.

Really? Hextall basically took the Flyers who were the 2017-18 Wild and turned them into a team with the image of hope.

 

[Kristopher Letang]

Recchi gets promoted to Guerins spot. Cullen becomes Pens assistant coach filling Recchis spot.

I don’t want Cullen to be an assisstant and I want Recchi gone. Remember when we were all complaining about “The Country Club”?

Bring some new blood.

 

[billybudd]

Really? Hextall basically took the Flyers who were the 2017-18 Wild and turned them into a team with the image of hope.

I don't agree. When Hextall got there, the Flyers had maybe 4 excellent players and another 5 good, but not great, prospects. Going into next season, the Flyers have 3 excellent players and another 5 good, but not great, prospects--except the excellent players are 5 years older and precede Hextall's hiring. I didn't see that team as a contender, exactly, but it wasn't in need of a rebuild and the rebuild that did take place isn't actually better than what he started with.

 

[Gurglesons]

I don't agree. When Hextall got there, the Flyers had maybe 4 excellent players and another 5 good, but not great, prospects. Going into next season, the Flyers have 3 excellent players and another 5 good, but not great, prospects--except the excellent players are 5 years older and precede Hextall's hiring. I didn't see that team as a contender, exactly, but it wasn't in need of a rebuild and the rebuild that did take place isn't actually better than what he started with.

Have to disagree with your assessment.

The big thing with Hextall was stability and not reacting to extend the window.

The biggest needs for the Flyers prior to Hextall were defense and goaltending. Both of those have been satisfied while adding solid pieces to the forward core like Konecky, JVR and Patrick.

 

[billybudd]

Have to disagree with your assessment.

The big thing with Hextall was stability and not reacting to extend the window.

The biggest needs for the Flyers prior to Hextall were defense and goaltending. Both of those have been satisfied while adding solid pieces to the forward core like Konecky, JVR and Patrick.

How has the goaltending situation been satisfied? Elliot is Mendoza line as starters go and Hart hasn't demonstrated anything at this point. As far as the defense, 2/3 of it was drafted by Holmgren and Niskanen was Fletcher's doing. Provorov's the only starter on D that's Hextall's guy.

From where I'm standing, Hextall took a .500 hockey club with a few key pieces and some nice futures and embarked on a 5 year project to turn it into a .500 hockey club with a few (mostly older) key pieces and some nice futures.

 

[Peat]

Have to disagree with your assessment.

The big thing with Hextall was stability and not reacting to extend the window.

The biggest needs for the Flyers prior to Hextall were defense and goaltending. Both of those have been satisfied while adding solid pieces to the forward core like Konecky, JVR and Patrick.

True - but in doing so, he ran out the clock on his owner's patience and lost his job. Are Minnesota's ownership prepared to be more patient than Philly's, and than they were with Fenton? Because if yes, they should get Hextall.

If they think they've got something going on and want a guy to go in and make changes, probably not him.


Also, who's Mellanby?

 

[Jacob]

I like Hextall. He made some mistakes as a rookie GM and seems to be too much of a micromanager but I think he’d make a good GM elsewhere assuming he learned from those mistakes. I wouldn’t even mind him as an AGM here to be groomed as JR’s replacement.