Liferleafer
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Actually, i think it would end the conversation....quickly in fact.Pfffffff.
Kapanen+Sandin+1/19+3/19 - probably it’s enough for start the conversation
Actually, i think it would end the conversation....quickly in fact.Pfffffff.
Kapanen+Sandin+1/19+3/19 - probably it’s enough for start the conversation
Actually, i think it would end the conversation....quickly in fact.
I agree. Here would be my break down if they were dealt separately at the deadline:It pains me to say this because hes such a fan favorite and a great guy, but Simmonds value may be one of the most overrated things on this board. This isnt to say he doesnt have value, becuase He does. Hes a good, pretty consistent 30 goal scorer, and one of the(if not the) best net front presences in the league. But hes not a superstar by any means. I think asking for a later first + is realistic, because GMs sometimes overpay for those character guys - especially ones that are actually decent hockey players. But Simmonds isnt a guy who is bringing back a top prospect++ as a trade deadline rental.
The problem with this thread is that if the Flyers are moving both Gudas and Simmonds, they want a quality piece in the return. Leafs dont really have that quality piece that the Flyers would want - or at least, not one they feel comfortable sparing, anyway. Leafs have a lot of good mid 6 prospects but they just dont fill a need for the Flyers, as were kinda full on those as well.
I agree. Here would be my break down if they were dealt separately at the deadline:
Simmonds=1st+prospect/roster player (as teams would need to open up a spot)
Gudas=2nd+3rd (or max 2nd+2nd/prospect)
So when talking about Toronto acquiring both, it would look like:
To TO
Simmonds
Gudas
To Philly
1st 2019
2nd 2019
3rd 2019/Bracco level prospect (or 2nd 2020)
Brown (roster spot reasons)
??possibly another prospect or St Louis 4th??
Now, with all that said, i really don't want to move our 1st for a forward rental....but i would target Gudas for sure.
Because the cap space you have this year, will never be better. And that itself is an asset.Wait why are trading for a declining power forward soon to be UFA and giving up cost-controlled assets? This is the third year and we are planning on competing for a while. There's no need to start emptying the cupboard to try to win right now.
Because the cap space you have this year, will never be better. And that itself is an asset.
And you won't empty the cupboard, but you will 100% add to your team between now and the deadline to try and increase your chances at the cup. That's what contenders do.
I agree. Here would be my break down if they were dealt separately at the deadline:
Simmonds=1st+prospect/roster player (as teams would need to open up a spot)
Gudas=2nd+3rd (or max 2nd+2nd/prospect)
So when talking about Toronto acquiring both, it would look like:
To TO
Simmonds
Gudas
To Philly
1st 2019
2nd 2019
3rd 2019/Bracco level prospect (or 2nd 2020)
Brown (roster spot reasons)
??possibly another prospect or St Louis 4th??
Now, with all that said, i really don't want to move our 1st for a forward rental....but i would target Gudas for sure.
Ok. Grundstrom instead Sandin and done dealActually, i think it would end the conversation....quickly in fact.
1st + Brown for Simmonds at the TDL
Nothing more
I think Gudas would be a good fit in TO, but if the price is higher than 2nd+later pick/prospect...i'm out.Lol at Nylander or Kapanen being part of any deal for a 30 year old upcoming UFA and bottom pair Dman
thanks for the heads up tips. i love how fans of other teams always propose the best trades. like everyone elses trades but leafs fans are always spot on.Toronto fans think the rest of the league is their farm team. More so than any other fan base here's how it goes...
Toronto fan posts a lopsided trade asking for value in return for futures and spare parts.....3rd and 4th line types... LOL then a decent majority of their fanbase says that's even too much...Wild stuff, truly.
Seems like a pretty convincing argument to keep cost controlled assets rather than dealing them.Because the cap space you have this year, will never be better. And that itself is an asset.
And you won't empty the cupboard, but you will 100% add to your team between now and the deadline to try and increase your chances at the cup. That's what contenders do.
Except they're nothing alike, typical laffs fans ignorance
You think Gudas is worth a 1st? Listen, this isn't one of those cases were you can run around belittling your "fellow fans", i have had many discussions with Flyers fans that value Gudas at a 2nd+. Something for nothing....lol.
Gudas is a physical bruiser/D 1st player with very little offensive upside that on teams with good or better than average D, would play 3rd pair. While that may sound like a knock on him...it actually isn't, because that's exactly something the Leafs need....but you don't pay a 1st for that.
Because the demand for “stud” RDs is very high while supply is very low. It’s the same reason we see proposals for RHDs ad nauseam.Why would the leafs trade Kapanen for anything less than in a package for a stud RHD?
He is as valuable as it gets to us in terms of style of play, cap hit and fitting in with the core. Cant see him being moved for UFA rentals.