Euro: Group B: England vs. Wales, 6/16/2016

[Dr Pepper]

Russia's pretty bad. They offer nothing in attack. Tied with Northern Ireland as the worst teams in the tournament IMO.

Funny you should mention that, since N.Ireland's up on Ukraine at the moment.

 

[cgf]

Russia's pretty bad. They offer nothing in attack. Tied with Northern Ireland as the worst teams in the tournament IMO.

*shrug* The glushakov goal was the result of a pretty attacking movement. It's tough to see a technically limited team like Ireland putting together a passing chain like that.

 

[hersky77]

The issue with Sterling is that he's completely off form at the moment. He was beyond putrid all year, to have him in there is wishful thinking at best.

Sterling was hot garbage in liverpool during his last year there.

 

[cgf]

Sterling has been trash in the final third basically every single time I've watched him play.

 

[SB164]

 

[Nalens Oga]

England are so wasteful and slow in posession, you should be getting far more shots off when you have the ball in their end that much. Dunno if they think they're Spain or something they dont' have the fine intricate passing or off the ball movement to pull it off. Counter the way the Germans did in WC 2010.

Pretty disappointing by Wales to switch off at half-time, never challenged Hart or Cahill/Smalling.

 

[East Coast Bias]

Thats amazing

 

[Virtanen18]

Wanted Sturridge to score to see the dance. Glad it happened, though Rose interrupted it a bit early.

 

[Live in the Now]

World Class is a bit of a stretch. He's a great goal scorer and has a lot of talent but he's too selfish to really make the most of his abilities.

Absolutely incredible. So selfish he plays a near perfect ball into the box leading to the first goal when he could have run at the defender or shot instead. He's our best player and also England's best striker.

Still wonder what would happen if they started the game with both Vardy and Sturridge in the lineup and Kane on the bench, but that would take nuts that I don't think Hodgson has. Kane is a great finisher but in a team setup that doesn't need a target forward it seems like a bad fit. Kane and Sturridge also seems like it could be interesting but I'm not sure of the fit there.

 

[ViD]

Russia's pretty bad. They offer nothing in attack. Tied with Northern Ireland as the worst teams in the tournament IMO.

You're saying like Wales is some great team, they are nothing without Bale. If Russia can contain him it's going to be an easy win like a couple years ago in qualifiers.

 

[ghostnights]

You're saying like Wales is some great team, they are nothing without Bale. If Russia can contain him it's going to be an easy win like a couple years ago in qualifiers.

Just like Slovakia was an easy win

 

[Moncherry]

You're saying like Wales is some great team, they are nothing without Bale. If Russia can contain him it's going to be an easy win like a couple years ago in qualifiers.

As opposed to Russia, which is just nothing.

Ramsay is better than any Russian player.

 

[TheMoreYouKnow]

I'd like to know the story of this dude. Why was he profusely crying at 1-1 and why did he change so dramatically once he realized the camera was on him.

 

[Halladay]

Just watched the game.

England did not play well, but an individual moment of brilliance from Sturridge got them 3 points. Sterling should not be starting, I think Sturridge should be the starting striker with Vardy coming off the bench as a sub. Heartbreaking for Wales.

 

[bluesfan94]

You're saying like Wales is some great team, they are nothing without Bale. If Russia can contain him it's going to be an easy win like a couple years ago in qualifiers.

Yes, just like Slovakia is nothing without Hamsik and if Russia could have contained him, it would have been an easy win

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

You're saying like Wales is some great team, they are nothing without Bale. If Russia can contain him it's going to be an easy win like a couple years ago in qualifiers.

That's a very big "if" and is MUCH easier said than done. In large part because of his playing style, Bale is the kind of player who can completely turn a match on its head with a single moment of brilliance.

Just watched the game.

England did not play well, but an individual moment of brilliance from Sturridge got them 3 points. Sterling should not be starting, I think Sturridge should be the starting striker with Vardy coming off the bench as a sub. Heartbreaking for Wales.

I actually disagree, I thought England played very well in the second half. They were just lacking in the final product, which is where more time for the guys like Vardy and Sturridge comes in.

 

[maclean]

somewhat amusing comic on the game https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...squires-on-england-beating-wales-at-euro-2016

 

[YNWA14]

Absolutely incredible. So selfish he plays a near perfect ball into the box leading to the first goal when he could have run at the defender or shot instead. He's our best player and also England's best striker.

Still wonder what would happen if they started the game with both Vardy and Sturridge in the lineup and Kane on the bench, but that would take nuts that I don't think Hodgson has. Kane is a great finisher but in a team setup that doesn't need a target forward it seems like a bad fit. Kane and Sturridge also seems like it could be interesting but I'm not sure of the fit there.

I can give examples of Ronaldo playing an amazing cross or pass in for players to score. He must not be selfish either. Everyone knows that Sturridge is an extremely selfish player. That's not necessarily a bad thing for the most part since strikers should be selfish though he often takes it to another level. You could make a highlight video longer than his goals and passes though of times where he chooses to shoot or try to take on the entire defence himself from bad positions or bad angles and loses the ball.

That doesn't mean he's not England's best striker though. I just think the extremeness of it is what prevents him from being 'World Class' (though again, kind of a subjective classification).