Gretzky/McDavid/Messier/??? Versus Lemieux/Crosby/Malkin/Francis

[North Cole]

Lol what? He was on pace for 209 points in 80 games.

Oh mah God! The pace!!!

 

[Nadal On Clay]

I guess you not old enough to remember but Lemieux was a big ***** back then but Gretzky took a lot of beatings.

Yikes.

 

[Nathaniel Skywalker]

Hahaha! Nope.

Maybe Lemieux can come out of retirement (again) and break 200 points. Then there would only be 3 Gretzky seasons higher than his.

Thanks for coming out though

So 199 points isn’t close to 205 points? Gotcha lmao. And don’t bring in pace cause I seen your against it.

 

[authentic]

I guess you not old enough to remember but Lemieux was a big ***** back then but Gretzky took a lot of beatings.

Lol, I'm sorry but this is insane. Yeah Lemieux was a whiner, no Gretzky was not close to as tough, strong or took nearly the beatings Lemieux received on a regular basis. It's well documented and widely accepted that Gretzky was protected, and Lemieux had to fend for himself for the most part. Also played in a rougher division with more physical play.

 

[wabagee]

Lol, I'm sorry but this is insane. Yeah Lemieux was a whiner, no Gretzky was not close to as tough, strong or took nearly the beatings Lemieux received on a regular basis. It's well documented and widely accepted that Gretzky was protected, and Lemieux had to fend for himself for the most part. Also played in a rougher division with more physical play.

I said he was protected but he still took his share of bad hits. Mario was way bigger and cried to the refs everytime he was hit. Gretzky was a gentleman. Lemieux was sissy boy.

 

[North Cole]

So 199 points isn’t close to 205 points? Gotcha lmao. And don’t bring in pace cause I seen your against it.

Nope. The important number is the one in front. 2 > 1. Sorry

 

[edog37]

2 art ross and only played 3 seasons

How's that over rated?

See the posters on these boards....

Thing is, I like the kid as a player. He's enjoyable to watch. His fanboys.....different matter....

 

[edog37]

I guess you not old enough to remember but Lemieux was a big ***** back then but Gretzky took a lot of beatings.

When? By whom? Gretzky had Semenko & McSorley to protect him.

 

[Spirit of 67]

Went with Pittsburgh.

Injuries and inconsistency really hurt ???

 

[Peggy]

See the posters on these boards....

Thing is, I like the kid as a player. He's enjoyable to watch. His fanboys.....different matter....

His fanboys can pretty much say what they want because he backs it up

2 art ross and best 5v5 scorer in the league

He's the best player in the league lol

 

[666]

If we don't count injuries (but we have to) Pittsburgh is very close but Edmonton wins it.

 

[edog37]

His fanboys can pretty much say what they want because he backs it up

2 art ross and best 5v5 scorer in the league

He's the best player in the league lol

after Crosby of course. Until McDavid gets his team past the second round (he's a captain & this is part of the equation), Sid is still the best player in the world. That's the measuring stick. Lemieux had to win a Cup before real comparisons could be discussed. The same here....

Again, I like McDavid. He's a fun player to watch. But he's no Sid....

 

[Laineux]

after Crosby of course. Until McDavid gets his team past the second round (he's a captain & this is part of the equation), Sid is still the best player in the world.

This logic always baffles me. If McDavid hasn't made past the 2nd round when he's 26, is a 36 year old Crosby still the best player in the game regardless of how he plays?

 

[McDavidCrushedLarkin]

Again, I like McDavid. He's a fun player to watch. But he's no Sid....

No, he's a better hockey player.

 

[daver]

There is no basis to take McDavid ahead of Crosby which is more of a reflection that McDavid only has three seasons under his belt rather than Crosby being clearly the better player.

 

[KoozNetsOff 92]

McDavid is clearly better than Crosby at this point. But (most) pens fans are always living in fantasy land, that's how they get to Lemieux > Gretzky.

 

[daver]

McDavid is clearly better than Crosby at this point. But (most) pens fans are always living in fantasy land, that's how they get to Lemieux > Gretzky.

How is McDavid clearly better when Crosby was better the year before? But are you saying you would take McDavid over Crosby in this poll?

 

[KoozNetsOff 92]

How is McDavid clearly better when Crosby was better the year before? But are you saying you would take McDavid over Crosby in this poll?

McDavid was better the last 2 seasons. No, I think Crosby 10/11 was at a level McDavid has yet to reach and career wise he obviously has a lot to do.

 

[Nathaniel Skywalker]

16-17
Crosby 116 points in 99 games
Mcdavid 109 points in 95 games

Crosby higher ppg and more points.

Also was the MVP of the World Cup/2nd in hart voting/ playoff mvp

 

[streitz]

You can choose Weight, RNH, Draisaitl, Arnott or anyone else who's played centre for the Oilers to be the final member of their group.


Which centre group would you rather have?

Can you remake this poll and choose the 4th edmonton center for everyone?

 

[Steeze]

I'm suprised so many of you are apparently old enough to have witnessed all these players first hand in their primes judging by some of your temperaments.

 

[Oilers Propagandist]

Gretzky was a lot tougher too, Mario cried every time he got touched. Gretzky had enforcers on his side but when he was slammed he still wasn’t a ***** like Lemieux. Lemieux cried to the refs and media time, that’s why a lot of people didn’t like Crosby when he first came in. He lived in his basement and whined just as much as his mentor.

Oilers have the classy generational players. We are lucky and fortunate.

 

[Nadal On Clay]

16-17
Crosby 116 points in 99 games
Mcdavid 109 points in 95 games

Crosby higher ppg and more points.

Also was the MVP of the World Cup/2nd in hart voting/ playoff mvp

+ Richard

 

[Nadal On Clay]

Oilers have the classy generational players. We are lucky and fortunate.

 

[ManofSteel55]

See the posters on these boards....

Thing is, I like the kid as a player. He's enjoyable to watch. His fanboys.....different matter....

Funny, Crosby used to get the same criticism.