GREATEST single season in the 90s? (no playoffs)

[amnesiac]

not including playoffs

see scoring leaders by season:
1989‑1990 NHL Scoring Leaders

GPG avg by seasons https://external-preview.redd.it/Vc...bp&s=866b7a8a337a3728b82b3159a0cc7dc380417960
1989-93 ~ 6.9-7.5 GPG
1993-97 ~ 5.8-6.5
1997-00 ~ 5.3-5.5


Gretzky:
89-90 40G 142P in 73GP (Ross, Hart 4th)
90-91 41G 163P in 78GP (Ross, Hart 2nd)

Hull:
90-91 86G 131P in 78GP (Hart, Lindsay, Ross 2nd)

Lemieux:
89-90 45G 123P in 59GP
91-92 44G 131P in 64GP (Ross, Hart 5th)
92-93 69G 160P in 60GP (Hart, Lindsay, Ross)
95-96 69G 161P in 70GP (Hart, Lindsay, Ross)

Hasek:
96-97 67GP 37-20-10 / 930 SV% (Hart, Lindsay, Vezina)
97-98 72GP 33-23-13 / 932 SV% (Hart, Lindsay, Veinza)
98-99 64GP 30-18-14 / 937 SV% (Vezina 1st, Hart 3rd)

Jagr:
98-99 44G 127P in 81GP (Hart, Lindsay, Ross)
99-00 42G 96P in 63GP (Lindsay, Ross, Hart 2nd)

Bourque:
89-90 84P in 76GP (Norris, Hart 2nd)
90-91 94P in 76GP (Norris, Hart 4th)

Fedorov:
94-94 56G 120P in 82GP (Hart, Lindsay, Selke, Ross 2nd)

Bure:
99-00 58G 94P in 74GP (Richard, Hart 3rd, Ross 2nd)

Pronger:
99-00 62P in 79GP (Hart, Norris)

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[Khomutov]

I think Lemieux 1993.

 

[Hockey Outsider]

I'm the only person who hasn't voted for Lemieux's 1993 season so far (I voted for 1996), so maybe I should explain my reasoning.

To me, there's a difference between "greatest" and "most impressive". Lemieux's 1993 is the most impressive season in NHL history - winning the Art Ross despite missing a quarter of the season while undergoing radiation treatment. Mind-blowing.

But if we're looking at it from how much value he brought to his team - I think Lemieux contributed more in 1996. Missing a quarter of the season (even if it's for something not related to hockey) is a big deal. He scored virtually the same number of goals and assists in 1996 - but it was a much lower-scoring year, and he had a weaker supporting cast overall.

(Kind of like the 2006 Calder race. Ovechkin had the better year. But Crosby's was arguably more impressive since he was only 18 - but if the question is who had the better season, it was still Ovechkin).

Lemieux's 1993 season was probably the most impressive season in the entirety of NHL history. But I don't think it's the best season.

 

[amnesiac]

I'm the only person who hasn't voted for Lemieux's 1993 season so far (I voted for 1996), so maybe I should explain my reasoning.

To me, there's a difference between "greatest" and "most impressive". Lemieux's 1993 is the most impressive season in NHL history - winning the Art Ross despite missing a quarter of the season while undergoing radiation treatment. Mind-blowing.

But if we're looking at it from how much value he brought to his team - I think Lemieux contributed more in 1996. Missing a quarter of the season (even if it's for something not related to hockey) is a big deal. He scored virtually the same number of goals and assists in 1996 - but it was a much lower-scoring year, and he had a weaker supporting cast overall.

(Kind of like the 2006 Calder race. Ovechkin had the better year. But Crosby's was arguably more impressive since he was only 18 - but if the question is who had the better season, it was still Ovechkin).

Lemieux's 1993 season was probably the most impressive season in the entirety of NHL history. But I don't think it's the best season.

and even though he played 10 more games in 95-96 (virtually same G and P), the GPG difference was 1.0 GPG (7.3 vs 6.3).

splitting hairs, more or less.

 

[Mickey Marner]

Went with '93 Lemieux. '98 Hasek would probably be my runner-up.

Counting both 89-90 & 99-00 as the '90s is odd.

 

[Trap Jesus]

Hasek's .937 season is insane but playoffs added to it kind of put it over the top. I like Hull's season because I think it was the most impressive goal-scoring season ever.

Scored in 56/78 games (56 games with a goal is a record)

3+ game goalless streaks: 0
2-game goalless streaks: 5
1-game goalless streaks: 11

Imagine going 78 games and having zero occurrences of going goalless in 3 games or more.

Comparing it to Gretzky's 92 goal season:

Scored in 55/80 games (55 is 2nd)

6-game goalless streaks: 1
4-game goalless streaks: 1
2-game goalless streaks: 2
1-game goalless streaks: 11

 

[amnesiac]

Went with '93 Lemieux. '98 Hasek would probably be my runner-up.

Counting both 89-90 & 99-00 as the '90s is odd.

whatever, they each have 3 months hockey. Both technically int he 90s.

 

[amnesiac]

Hasek's .937 season is insane but playoffs added to it kind of put it over the top. I like Hull's season because I think it was the most impressive goal-scoring season ever.

Scored in 56/78 games (56 games with a goal is a record)

3+ game goalless streaks: 0
2-game goalless streaks: 5
1-game goalless streaks: 11

Imagine going 78 games and having zero occurrences of going goalless in 3 games or more.

Comparing it to Gretzky's 92 goal season:

Scored in 55/80 games (55 is 2nd)

6-game goalless streaks: 1
4-game goalless streaks: 1
2-game goalless streaks: 2
1-game goalless streaks: 11

You do have to factor in Hull having the 2nd greatest passer of all-time as his centre that year. Impressive regardless, Im sure he wouldve scored 60 or 70, but Ill take Gretzky, Mario, and Ovie's seasons over Hull's for goalscoring.

 

[Regal]

I'm the only person who hasn't voted for Lemieux's 1993 season so far (I voted for 1996), so maybe I should explain my reasoning.

To me, there's a difference between "greatest" and "most impressive". Lemieux's 1993 is the most impressive season in NHL history - winning the Art Ross despite missing a quarter of the season while undergoing radiation treatment. Mind-blowing.

But if we're looking at it from how much value he brought to his team - I think Lemieux contributed more in 1996. Missing a quarter of the season (even if it's for something not related to hockey) is a big deal. He scored virtually the same number of goals and assists in 1996 - but it was a much lower-scoring year, and he had a weaker supporting cast overall.

(Kind of like the 2006 Calder race. Ovechkin had the better year. But Crosby's was arguably more impressive since he was only 18 - but if the question is who had the better season, it was still Ovechkin).

Lemieux's 1993 season was probably the most impressive season in the entirety of NHL history. But I don't think it's the best season.

I think one thing to consider is that Lemieux was a lot more reliant on the PP in '96. Part of that might have been linemates, and in some ways a point is a point, but I tend to value players who can dominate GF% at ES more. I'm not sure if 10 more games should bridge that gap.

 

[KoozNetsOff 92]

Voted Lemieux 93, but Hull 91 is right there. Jagr 99 was a great season too.

 

[Bob Barker]

Voted Hasek but Lemieux was very close. No qualms about him winning.

 

[Thenameless]

92-93 Lemieux. Why? It's one of the few seasons in hockey history that can be reasonably compared to the best seasons from either Orr or Gretzky.