Value of: Graves and Jost

[Cousin Eddie]

But would any team offer that high of a pick?

Well Friedman said less than a week ago that Florida/Colorado we’re discussing Weegar/Jost but Sakic ended up trading for Toews which ended those talks. His value is obviously much more than a 7th although I still doubt it’s very high.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Well Friedman said less than a week ago that Florida/Colorado we’re discussing Weegar/Jost but Sakic ended up trading for Toews which ended those talks. His value is obviously much more than a 7th although I still doubt it’s very high.

If you sign Jost to a contract that is 1M or less, then it doesn’t really matter. He can be demoted to the ahl at no cap cost if required. No need to trade him. He can be a 13th forward.

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

He tried improving his skating and was weaker against the opponents. Tried strengthening and became slower.

Maybe his body can’t have both or this could be possible in the future. Just don’t believe he can improve beyond his current level.

If 22 is the cutoff to figure it all out before it's too late, Nichushkin (another 10 OA pick) shouldn't have performed like he did this year. If Nuke can improve at 23/24, why can't Jost?

 

[Cypher]

If 22 is the cutoff to figure it all out before it's too late, Nichushkin (another 10 OA pick) shouldn't have performed like he did this year. If Nuke can improve at 23/24, why can't Jost?

Cause Nuke is 6'4 and 210 lbs so he can throw his weight around in the cycle game. Jost is 5'11 187 lbs and softer than soft serve ice cream.

 

[Richard88]

Cause Nuke is 6'4 and 210 lbs so he can throw his weight around in the cycle game. Jost is 5'11 187 lbs and softer than soft serve ice cream.

Saying that Nichuskin had a good season only because of his size and ability to 'throw his weight around' does him a massive disservice.

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

Cause Nuke is 6'4 and 210 lbs so he can throw his weight around in the cycle game. Jost is 5'11 187 lbs and softer than soft serve ice cream.

He was 6'4" and 210 lbs in Dallas last year and struggled so badly he was bought out. I don't disagree that Nuke's size helps, but something else changed between last season in Dallas and this year in Colorado. And there's a long list of other players who didn't succeed in the NHL until after turning 22, so pretending that Jost should be a finished product before turning 22 is silly. Maybe he won't improve, but the window of opportunity is still wide open.

 

[JoeSakic13]

Graves: expansion draft

Jost: paired with a pick for a rental at the deadline.

This nailed it.

 

[sfvega]

Jost is an excellent defensive player, doesn't fit the structure of fast skating and passing. Skating is above average and strength is below average. Bulked up and hurt his skating. Worked hard on conditioning to improve his skating and got physically weaker. He can't do both and change to a possession focused team is likely best for his career.

STL is less reliant on speed and focused on defence with possession control. Ideal team catering to his strengths.

His game fits our style of play, but he is the antithesis of what we need. We need everything you say he lacks. We already have an overabundance of slower, defensive and possession-minded forwards. I wouldn't mind adding Jost for a throw away pick, but he'd just be added to the pile of nondescript defensive forwards.