Grading the off season moves

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Now that camp is opening time it’s appropriate to review the Canuck off-season. It should be noted from the start that past bungling played a major role in the team not being able to better exploit possibilities offered by the cap freeze. If they did not have all the dead cap space and bloated obligations resulting from past moves they would have been in a tremendous position to take advantage of the cheaper contracts to younger, key players. If free of poor contracts to players like Eriksson, they might have becomes legit contenders. Also, important to understand that little pre-panning went into many of the moves such as getting Schmidt to compensate for the loss of Tanev. Still, in some cases, management was able to jump on situations to make improvements and this needs to be acknowledged as well.

1. Loss of Markstrom – can never be great if you’re giving up your MVP. Markstrom was tremendous the last couple of years and it is unlikely the team gets a sniff at the playoffs without Markstrom totally stealing games. Really a direct result of the botched cap situation and a big black eye on Canuck management.

Yet the loss was, in part, compensated for with the signing of Holtby. Doubt Holtby, at this time, is as good as Markstrom but he has been a more than bona NHL goaltender in the past and provides stability.

Other considerations include:

- Markstrom was getting injuries and you wonder about making a long term commitment here (6 years is probably too long and the Canucks needed to avoided that)
- Demko needs the game time to develop and Markstrom to Demko move was likely at some point. If so, then probably better to start process sooner than later. Also it was encouraging that the team, for once, was thinking long term
- if Markstrom had been signed then Demko could have been moved to get help elsewhere
- not really related to judging Benning and co. but unfortunate he went to a direct competitor who instantly got their goal tending issues dealt with.
- team would have lost Demko to Kracken for nothing if he wasn't moved

Grade - C

2. Acquisition of Holtby – doubt created by the downturn in his play and injury history takes the luster of this signing. Still, not long ago, he was viewed as top end goalie and he played a lot last year. If he gets back to play of a couple of years ago this will be a huge win. Moreover, with Markstrom gone, his acquisition was crucial. Another favorable factor is that he likely goes to the Kracken and that allows the team to retain someone else.

Grade B

3. Loss of Tanev – key loss. Tanev was great with Hughes and helped Quinn excel in his rookie year. Could say, on the other hand that Hughes would be good with anyone (and play with Schenn would be evidence of that). Still Canuck will be forced to find someone to partner as well with Hughes as Tanev did. Moreover, Tanev was very important on the PK , in getting the puck out of his zone, in shot blocking and in being a leader and valued teammate.

Yet, it has to be recognized that Tanev has had a scary injury history and at least fans won’t have to watch other teams key on Tanev and pound him to death along the end boards anymore.

Grade - C-

4. Schmidt for a 3rd. - based on everything we know at this time a slam dunk for the Canucks. Trade might have been as good a move, league-wide, as there was this off season. Player was pivotal on a very good team and probably their best all-round defense man. (as he likely is on the Canucks presently) Also seemed very popular and a vocal leader. Don’t like giving up more draft choices but will give up a 3rd every day and twice on Sunday for a player like Schmidt.

Grade A +

5. Loss of Stecher – Has been a consistent plus player for the team, was showing an increasing ability to put up points and often paired decently with Edler. There have been times when he gotten abused around his net and had been less than stellar taking players coming off the side boards or from behind the net but he does compete. Would say he is still no more than 3rd pairing player but there was some upside. His loss was important and you wonder if the team could have finessed the situation to get him back at reasonable price considering what he took in Detroit.

Grade C-

6. PTO to Hamonic – like in so many of the situations it is easy to get into trade-offs such as Markstrom for Holtby, Tanev for Schmidt. Here might be that the hopeful acquisition of Hamonic makes up for, or more than makes up for, the loss of Stecher. Will need to know terms if this deal done to fully assess that. But, on its own, this deal (if it is realized) provides the team with good veteran depth on defense. Moreover, if Hamonic can get back to form he showed a couple of years ago (never thought Hamonic was good again after the beating Gudbranson gave him) this move could be a tremendous steal.

Grade – tentative B

7. Signing of Rathbone – everything suggest big upside at this point. Nice to get rid of the worry that he would sign elsewhere and he provides some long term hope for the defense. Interesting to see his progress in camp.

Grade – B+

8. Signing Brisebois, Saunter and Chatfield - Hopefully, one of these players can break through and establish themselves in the NHL. Most likely none of them do and probably they end up as journey men AHLers. However, team does need some depth and some bodies to man the back end in Utica. Only signing you might really quibble about is Saunter who showed zero growth in his game last year.

Grade C

9. Signing Michaelis as an NCAA free agent – player that has good hands and some quickness. Doubt that he has the size or skating to survive in the NHL but taking a flyer on player ranked as one of the best NCAA free agents is never a bad thing. Like found money if you hit on one of them.

Grade C+

10. Signing Lockwood – another player that stuck with the Canucks rather than exercising his option to go to some other team. Illustrated, as other deals with their college players, that the team does a good job of following up on their college players and keeping them in the fold.

Grade C+

11. Losing Tofolli – type of short term deal that always had the chance of blowing up in their faces. Never was, IMO, the type of deal a rebuilding team should be making. Loss of Madden and the 2nd was absolutely not balanced by what Tofolli brought in the playoffs (although the injury makes this a little unfair). Also, it was obvious at the time of the deal that cap was not going up eliminating much chance you could keep Tofolli. Loss of Tofolli creates a void on the top two lines and this appears a critical shortcoming heading into the season.

Grade E

12. Signing Virtanen – if you just go off goals and points salary looks appropriate. However, if you factor in the wild inconsistency in his play, his dismal playoff effort, you have to see his contract as on the high side. (especially when you factor in covid prices) Once again he probably gets, undeservingly, a chance to be in the top 6 and I don’t see how many can have much confidence he is going to do much with it. At 24, it is getting to be last chance time for Jake to establish himself as anything like an upper tier NHL player. In the circumstances, Virtanen likely had to be retained but you do wonder if the Canucks should have dealt him already and recouped something better for this high end draft choice

Grade C-

13. MacEwen signed – given what he has shown to date, good move by the Canucks. Provides needed size and speed if nothing else. If he can play up to the standard he showed at certain points last season on the 4th line, he is worth the contract. Can be some limited hope that he will be a break out player this year.

Grade B

14. Gaudette signed – don’t see him turning out as NHL center. His defensive coverage is wholly inadequate and he doesn’t distribute the puck well enough. Lots of high energy but futile running around and shows no ability to pace himself into game. Gives himself so little chance to read the play which is a massive flaw in his game. Might, as has been suggested for years, turn out on the wing but force feeding him into a center role doesn't seem to be working. Maybe another who should have been probably traded while there may have been a market for him.

Grade C-

15. Motte signed – player showed in the playoffs that he is an excellent penalty killer and fore checker. Moreover, looked like he had some offense as well. If he continues like this, and there is little to suggest he won’t, he becomes a bargain. One of the best stories on the team last season.

Grade A

16. Hoglander signed – not so much, as with Rathbone, a commentary on off-season moves as it is about Canuck drafting. No doubt this has improved since the awful years of the past and there can be legitimate hope that players like Hoglander can be long term contributors. Seems like a player who is good from the dots down but still needs some considerable work in his overall game.

Grade C

17. Hawryluk signed – fringe player who seems to have topped out in minor league hockey. Has a very determined approach and is willing to mix it up. However, given his size this may be a prescription for spending considerable time on the LTIR. At 25, any break out is extremely unlikely. Benning seems to have fallen in love with this player years ago and Hawryluk may provide good insight into Benning’s scouting abilities. On a two way, minimal contract so this helps eliminate Hawryluck being the kind of disaster other such signings have been in past years.

Grade C
18 Gravoac, Bailey resigned – basically minor league depth replacement players. Did enough in their stints with the Canucks to deserve these contracts and, in the case, of Bailey play in Utica creates some hope he could contribute with the Canucks.

Grade C

19 Attempts to unload Eriksson, Baertschi and maybe Sutter. Always a completely forlorn hope that the team could get out from under these awful contracts. Benning talking openly about trying to do this is one of those circumstances that causes many of us to seriously question Benning power to think rationally or, for that matter, think at all. Best hope here is that Benning has learned his lesson and steers clear of such hideous brain farts in future.

Grade – non-starter so hard to say much of anything about a grade.

20. Sutter not bought out. Another non-move that surely needed to be made. Canucks could have got substantial cap relief here providing for more forward depth to be added. Hard to see what Sutter can provide on any sort of sustained basis at the present time.

Grade D

21. Not signing Tryamkin – looked like a very real possibility for a time but here again the team got bit in the ass by poor previous decisions. Would have been better to get Tryamkin to Vancouver so he could develop his North American game. The longer you leave a player in Russia the harder the transition seems to be. Still a chance they can get Tryamkin if they can get their cap situation improved by next off –season or maybe even sometime during the latter part of this season if all the complications can be worked out.

Grade D.

Kielly resigned – seems destined for the ECHL -although right now maybe the back up in Utica. Really a non-consideration. Can always tell his grand children he got on NHL score sheet.

Overall Grade

Throughout the off season seemed like it was one step backward , one step forward. Ultimately the team seemed to have come out ok. Some key players were lost but in most cases adequate, and sometimes more than adequate replacements, appeared to have been acquired. The main case where this wasn’t true, was the loss of Tofolli and that loss really reduces management’s off-season grade. Moreover nothing was done to improve scoring from the bottom six. In the end, I think the main thing to conclude about this off-season was it represented an opportunity lost. With players like Hughes and Pettersson still on the entry contracts the team should have had a chance to add some quality help while not losing much in the process. But this was squandered by past, stop gap moves that ultimately did little to improve the team in the short term while handicapping it in the long term.

However, it did seem the club firmed up a basis for future moves. Long term acquisitions such as Schmidt shore up the back end. Moreover, there were none of the hugely bloated, long term deals that screw up your future. There was even a sense that the team had finally learned their lesson and putting more emphasis on the future. This, if true, would be the most welcome development and represent an important change in club’s philosophy and direction.

Canucks grade (based just on the moves and non moves made and not made) C+
 
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1 Markstrom. Glad they didn't sign him to that contract. we would be in worse cap trouble. B
3 Tanev - A player about to regress methinks. Sorry to see him go, but injuries and age and contract - C+
4 Schmidt - shows what cap space can do. The price was right - the contract not so much. A-
5 Stecher - this depends on how much Harmonic gets ... C
6 Harmonic - same answer, but if its less than Stech's contract, and only one year. B
7 Rathbone. Think he will be the real deal. but its ELC, so B-
8 9 10 all C's
11 Toffoli was signed because of BB injury, no other reason. JB was desperate to make the playoffs. that said his contract was fair but no money. C+
12 JV Really? We'll see, but C+. what would you do differently, let him walk or go to arbitration? The price was OK.
13 14 both C or C+
15 Motte decent, but we'll see B- or B.
16 Hoglander. A C? Your only other choice is not sign him. B or B+
21 Tryamkin Major fan of his, but there was no way he was signing here this year at the time he had to make a decision. C+

Any I left blank i generally agree or inconsequential.
 

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Are we better or worse than the team that was one win from the Conference Final? Losing Marky, Tanev, and Tofu makes us worse. We did get Schmidt, so that alleviates the Tanev loss. We are still down our MVP goalie, and top line right winger though. What did Miller say about the offseason: “reset”?
My grade for Benning is what ever is lower than D.
 

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Yeah I think most of the mistakes and there were a lot were made before this off season. The cap problems were created by Bennings bad signings. But if I pretend that we just hired a new GM this off season and he walked into this cap mess then I’d say strictly based on this off season I give management a solid B. Significantly upgraded the D and avoided a long term deal with Tanev which would have hurt the future, slight downgrade at forward and made the right moves in net for the long term future of the team while avoiding the latter years of that Markstrom contract. Maybe the grade is a little generous but ignoring the fact it’s the same management that created the cap issues in the first place then I have to say they did a solid job this off season. Overall I’m still in the camp that wants Benning replaced though.
 

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Forwards - Lost talent but with improvement from the young guns we could get better. Wildcard as of right now.

Grade C+

Defense - Replaced 2 players with better players. Edler will regress. Hughes will improve.

Grade B

Goalies - Loss of MVP Marky is huge but if Demko is as good as his playoffs indicate we very well could improve. Holtby also a wildcard.

Grade C+

Overall I like this team better than last year.

Overall Grade B-
 

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A+ from me, the team is better heading into this season.

Canucks have assembled the best top 6 since 2011 with lots of different elements and depth in the D core.

Canucks forwards are essentially the same except one year older for our young core.

Demko will be better, or just as good as Markstrom. I've been all in on him since NCAA days.
 

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Goaltending: C+. One of two things should have been done here. Either have Marky back on a shorter term contract so that we could judge whether Demko was ready to take the reins. Or Demko should have been given more starts to test whether he was in fact ready if the plan was to let Marky go in the offseason. The no-man's land we're in with uncertainty as to the starter and the hope that Holtby re-finds his game, is a tough spot to be in.

Forwards: B-. Toffoli was a victim of the cap (due to mismanagement). Still uncertainty with JV likely landing a top6 winger position barring a surprise from SB or JH. More spare parts available in Hawyrluk, Graovac and Bailey. Still a big hole in 3C with a declining BS and AG unlikely to be a long term fit here.

Defense: A. Much hand wringing and mishagas here and deservedly so. But however circuitous the route, JB ended up doing a pretty good job of preserving, if not outright improving, the defense. Out Tanev, Stecher, Fanta. In Schmidt, Hamonic, Juolevi. Sound job of rebuilding on the fly while also building for the future. Well done here.

Overall Grade: B. Huge leap of faith that things will work out in net. Hoping that Green will adjust his system to shelter his goaltending, especially in the early going. But over all, feel that the team did what it needed to do to tread water until some of the ugly contracts start to slough off next year.
 

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The funny thing is that every team in the league has a portion of their fanbase that is optimistic that they improved.

Not everyone can improve.

Forwards - we lost our 3rd and 4th best wingers. Obviously unsure how well Leivo will perform after injury but both went for insanely low prices.

No top nine wingers were replaced.

Bottom six has no clear upgrades and we had one of the league’s worst bottom sixes last season.

So many cheap good middle six guys were signed and we got none of them.

FWDs worse and a D grade.

On defense, not signing Tanev to a three year deal was smart. I know he signed for four in calgary but I bet he would have taken three had we not waited until the last day to offer this. Letting the corpse of Fantenberg go was good as well. Crazy to me that people argued that he was a good bottom pairing D but didn’t say a thing when he left to Russia. You’d think you wouldn’t want to lose a cheap guy like that.

The actual loss was Stecher relative to cost to retain. Disgusting that he wasn’t brought back.

However, Schmidt + Hamonic + Whoever is an improvement on Tanev + Stecher + Fantenberg for sure.

Overall B+ but would be significantly higher if we retained Stecher.

Goalies:

Not retaining Markstrom at his price was again the right move. They upped the offer on the final day like they did with Tanev but good that it wasn’t taken. Four years was the right term to stop at.

Bad -> paying big money for Holtby who has been bad for three years. Should have signed someone to league minimum on a two year one way or something and then used the capspace to sign a forward like Toffoli or Craig Smith or whatever.

Replacing a top five goalie with one that has performed at backup level and hoping that he’ll magically improve again is suspect. I don’t have him written off but I’m not expecting improvement back to middle of the pack starter level. Wouldn’t be shocked either way. I’m more confident in Demko than Holtby.

Goalies C-

Overall C- offseason. Goalie significantly worse and forward core is worse. Defense improved.
 

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Goaltending: C+. One of two things should have been done here. Either have Marky back on a shorter term contract so that we could judge whether Demko was ready to take the reins. Or Demko should have been given more starts to test whether he was in fact ready if the plan was to let Marky go in the offseason. The no-man's land we're in with uncertainty as to the starter and the hope that Holtby re-finds his game, is a tough spot to be in.

Forwards: B-. Toffoli was a victim of the cap (due to mismanagement). Still uncertainty with JV likely landing a top6 winger position barring a surprise from SB or JH. More spare parts available in Hawyrluk, Graovac and Bailey. Still a big hole in 3C with a declining BS and AG unlikely to be a long term fit here.

Defense: A. Much hand wringing and mishagas here and deservedly so. But however circuitous the route, JB ended up doing a pretty good job of preserving, if not outright improving, the defense. Out Tanev, Stecher, Fanta. In Schmidt, Hamonic, Juolevi. Sound job of rebuilding on the fly while also building for the future. Well done here.

Overall Grade: B. Huge leap of faith that things will work out in net. Hoping that Green will adjust his system to shelter his goaltending, especially in the early going. But over all, feel that the team did what it needed to do to tread water until some of the ugly contracts start to slough off next year.

I'll mostly agree with this assessment (C+ for forwards IMO). Although I'm not sure what Benning could have done with Goaltending, Marky wanted a contract that wouldn't have worked with us. Benning isn't going to convince Marky to take a shorter deal when he's been working all his career to be a #1 starter. Agree though with giving Demko more starts, could have avoided the injury issues and made Markstrom more fresh for playoffs.
 
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All things considered I think a B or B- is fair for the overall off-season.

It was a tough situation and we were probably going to lose Markstrom no matter what. Despite how bad things looked, the team still managed to improve its Defence, which is why the team doesn't get a C or worse. We weren't going to improve our offense but we could have done something more than just Hawyrluk. Loosing decent depth in Leivo was unnecessary and it would have been nice to grab one of the cheap vet contracts that have been handed out recently. Unlike others I'm not counting on Hoglander making the team or any help up front coming until Podk.

All that being said I expect surprises as is the case every year. Hoping for more positive than negative.
 

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I still get a bit of a chuckle of worrying THAT much about a starting goalie’s injury history when he was on pace for 50+ this past season and 60 starts for each of the previous two seasons. It is a concern but imho way down the list unless you plan on having him start 60+ games again.
 
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Bad -> paying big money for Holtby who has been bad for three years.

Holtby is in the bottom 3rd in terms of starting goaltending contracts. His $4.3 million per year cap hit has him as the 23rd highest paid goalie in the league. That isn't big money no matter how you slice it.
 

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He's not a legit starting goalie. He was once.
That's only true if you assume that last season is his new normal and not literally every season before that. Given that goaltending from year to year is essentially random at the NHL level he's as like to have a .920 Sv% as he is an .880 this coming season.
 
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That's only true if you assume that last season is his new normal and not literally every season before that. Given that goaltending from year to year is essentially random at the NHL level he's as like to have a .920 Sv% as he is an .880 this coming season.
Edit: Going to rephrase this

He's not performed at his actual elite level since the end of 2017. In the season they won the cup, he had lost his starting job but gained it back. If you were to plot his trajectory based on the previous five years, you'd see a harsh downward curve.

Obviously the last season alone was ridiculously bad but it's also not likely for him to be the same .915-925 goalie he was from 2010-2017.

My guess is he falls somewhere in the .905-910 range.
 

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The thing about Schmidt is that while we didn't pay very much to get him, there's not a lot of talk about how large his contract is. We're are paying him one of the highest salaries in the league for a defenceman. He can't just be good or ok, he has to be fantastic or elite for us to get value.

It's like Louie or Myers, their performance at 6 million is judged differently than that same performance would be at 2 million.

I'm worried because Vegas is a better run team than us, and they decided he wasn't worth the 6 they were paying him.
 

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The thing about Schmidt is that while we didn't pay very much to get him, there's not a lot of talk about how large his contract is. We're are paying him one of the highest salaries in the league for a defenceman. He can't just be good or ok, he has to be fantastic or elite for us to get value.

It's like Louie or Myers, their performance at 6 million is judged differently than that same performance would be at 2 million.

I'm worried because Vegas is a better run team than us, and they decided he wasn't worth the 6 they were paying him.

We could find ourselves in a situation where we're paying Schmidt and Myers 6 million a season in their mid 30s. Add Hughes in the 8 million range, and I hope we're getting value and not anchors.

(Also I have a hard time seeing the appeal to Seattle to taking a 31 year old Myers, with 3 years remaining and 10 million in signing bonuses to be paid, but that's just me.)
 

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I have no worries about the Schmidt contract relative to the Myers one.

I'd just play the shit out of Myers in a top four role this season rather than the weird hybrid one and then trade him in the summer when they prop his value up.
 

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How can anyone give the forward handling this offseason anything over a D is beyond me. They're returning the exact same team upfront except two of the more productive forwards on the team.

Committing such a significant figure to goaltending really didn't make much sense to me either. The team is paying more this season for goaltending than they did last season.

I'm not sold on Schmidt, I've been looking up any and everything and watching tons of footage. The idea he's a top 15-20 Dman that gets tossed around lightly in here is just not something I can agree with at this time. If you watch the playoffs, he's usually the guy losing his man in front of the net. I hope I'm wrong and he's a bonafide top pair guy, but at this point, I want to see him on a team like ours that doesn't have such a deep lineup as Vegas does.
 

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Holtby is in the bottom 3rd in terms of starting goaltending contracts. His $4.3 million per year cap hit has him as the 23rd highest paid goalie in the league. That isn't big money no matter how you slice it.
Why is he on a starting goalie contract?

Paying a significant portion of your cap to a 1B imo is wasteful, at least it's not 3 years like Ryan Miller's.

I think people are in dream land if they expect Holtby and Myers to be the expansion guys, unless Seattle extorts some sweeteners out of us to do it. Myers was barely a top 4 defensman last year and the Hughes and Edler pairings with Myers on them performed worse than with the alternatives....he spent the biggest chunk of his icetime next to Fantenberg/Benn on the bottom pair.
 

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16 teams were within $2M of the salary cap this season, and 10 of them were at/ or over the cap....Judging by some of the reactions around here, you would think we were the only team up be up against the cap.

As we start training camp today , I am pleased with the roster, considering the circumstances...

Not being able to re sign Toffoli really bites...He was a victim of the cap..The forwards remain essentially the same as last year,

The D has improved,Schmidt and Hughes are both elite puck movers, and Myers is decent as well..Hamonic is the perfect pickup....If Juolevi can consolidate his spot...We have a really good D...Stecher was the salary cap casualty, but I think the coach and management wanted to move away from him anyway.

Goaltending is the wild card..Ian Clark and management have placed their bets on Demko..Holtby (reunited with Schmidt and Beagle) is a great 1B...No matter how many times posters here (and the OP) claim that Markstrom was lost due to the cap,..that is simply not the case..We could only retain one goalie, and Markstrom demanded an NTC....The Canucks had to decide between one or the other.
 

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16 teams were within $2M of the salary cap this season, and 10 of them were at/ or over the cap....Judging by some of the reactions around here, you would think we were the only team up be up against the cap.

Cap. Allocation.

How many of those teams are paying players buried in the minors (Not LTIR)? How many of those teams have a huge percentage of the cap playing in it's bottom six? That's the complaint. Not the amount of money used, but where it's used.
 

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Cap. Allocation.

How many of those teams are paying players buried in the minors (Not LTIR)? How many of those teams have a huge percentage of the cap playing in it's bottom six? That's the complaint. Not the amount of money used, but where it's used.

Agreed. This would be a SCC if JB had never signed a free agent and filled spots with waiver fodder from other teams. We would have $15 in cap space at least right now and could have fleeced a number of teams. Meyers, Eriksson, Beagle, etc ad nauseam are all overpaid, terms too long and given NMC/NTC like they were candy.
 
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