Confirmed with Link: Grabner to Devils for 2nd rounder and Rykov

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  1. devilsblood

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    Mueller was hurt for a good stretch. Our left side lacks top end talent, but we have 4 guys I'm fairly confident in running out there every night.
     
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    Mojo for most of the year. Zajac at the start. Boyle at the start. Palms missed a good chunk. Gibbons missed games.

    To a lesser extent Hall and Zacha missed games. Q when he was up.

    Maybe it was not terrible, but we've had our share.

    I think we have very solid fwd depth.
     
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    Hischier didn't miss a game, Bratt missed one game, Hall missed 5, and the Devils found themselves with better than expected forward depth with the emergence of Coleman and Gibbons. Guys called up from Binghamton played a total of 11 games this season, a total which I assume is close to the lowest in Devils history (I think 2007 was similarly healthy). That will not happen next season, you can bet on that.
     
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    Crosby played 82, Kessel 82, Malkin 78 letang 79.

    Kucherov played 80, stamkos 78, Johnson 81 Hedman 77.

    Giroux, Vroacek Couturier provorov all played 82.

    We did not have an out of the ordinary healthy season.

    And yes we did have good fwd depth, in part because of Coleman and Gibbons(but do note we traded away Rico) but that was my point. We have good depth.
     
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    How many games did we have where everyone was healthy? 2? 3?

    Anyway, CHIP (Cap Hit of Injured Players) charts:
    NHL Injury Viz: 2017/18 team injury breakdowns

    We seem to be pretty middle of the pack (ignore the light blue - it's LTIR i.e. Clowe).

    Tampa, Pitt, and Philly all were pretty low on the chart.
     
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    If you break it down further, in terms of defense, we were very healthy. Only Mirco missed games, and his cap hip was nill.

    But in terms of fwd's we are amongst the top 1/3 both in terms of cap hit and total games missed. We had to battle through a fair amount of injuries.
     
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    That might have actually worked in our favor. We probably had better depth at F than D, although losing Zajac, Johansson, and Palms for long stretches was pretty bad.
     
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    With Mueller and Santini, and after the addition of Vat's, we do go 4 deep on both sides of the back end. But it was not really put to the test.
     
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    NJ signing Grabner simply wasn't a good fit for the team. He excelled under Vigneault due to his ability to use his mobility. NJ has always played hockey in another way, it's still mobile, but it hasn't been as fast and north/ south in an extreme way. Grabner was very happy under Vigneault, because his system rewarded Grabner's play to the maximum. NJ plays with more of a east/west traffic movement kind of game once the team enters the zone, which I as a NYR fan would call quite elegant, because it's quite precise. But it wasn't the enviroment for Grabner. A guy NJ needs more is a player like Lee in NYI.

    I still think the NJ idea of playing hockey still is legitimate, as it's not left in the dust in the way of playing modern hockey. It only needs some more player quality and some tweaks.
     
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    Grabner can go float around somewhere else.

    If the guy isn't going to give it his all when he went from a team heading nowhere to a team fighting for a playoff spot, then he's not the type of character player I want on my team.

    The good about this trade is that we were able to see what type of player he would be on our team and prevented Shero to hand him a 3 year deal worth around 9M$.
     
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    Grabner's last 1.75 seasons before coming to the Devils were a fluke. He wasn't really a 30-ish goal scorer. His shooting percentage and goals per minute were on some monster PED's.
     
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    Ray whiffed on this deal
     
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    Hindsight is always 20/20.
     
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    Not always
     
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    Cage Helmet Thank you Marty!

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    You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take. Ray took a shot and he wound up missing anyway. It happens sometimes, frequently with deadline rental players. In the end we made the playoffs by one point. As little as he did here he still may have helped us get in. Don’t you think guys in the locker room like seeing their GM take a shot at helping them out down the stretch? Getting a little aggressive in giving the team a shot?
     
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    oh good more talk about grabner this hasn't been beaten to death yet
     
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    Cage Helmet Thank you Marty!

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    He’s gone now. Let’s just forget about him and move on. He’s like that date that didn’t work out. No point in dwelling on them.
     
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    Silky mitts on a Grabner goal at FLA being replayed bow on MSG
     
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    You mean to tell me MSG is already doing their summer reruns of Rangers game from the season before? They usually don't start those until like late June or so.:laugh:
     
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    No reason to bump this thread. Where the hell is the ignore thread option?
     
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    The irony of the Grabner deal. I fully believed this was a great deal/match for the Devils. I couldn’t understand why the Devils would trade for Maroon. He is slow and a product if McD. Oooops..

    Grabner sucking is one thing, get hosed by the Rangers is endless pit of rage! Maroon is slow but man his possession and board work is something the team lacked.
     
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    There is nothing else to broadcast this time of year since MSG lost both MLB teams
     
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    They haven't had the MLB in years now.
     
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