Proposal: Gostisbehere to Montreal

[Lafleurs Guy]

Montreal: Drouin + Mete

Philly: Gostisbehere

Thoughts?

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[Ctrain2k]

Pretty bad for Montreal.

 

[780il]

Value seems fine

But Philly has a ton of forwards and needs their dmen. And yes Montreal needs a good LHD but they need more top line forwards, not to trade 1 of the 2 they have.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Value seems fine

But Philly has a ton of forwards and needs their dmen. And yes Montreal needs a good LHD but they need more top line forwards, not to trade 1 of the 2 they have.

Montreal is fine for forwards. They can afford to lose Drouin.

They badly need a number one blueliner on the left side. Gost addresses this as well as doubling as a PP Quarterback (also desperately needed)

On the flipside Gost is signed for four years to a good contract. You pay a premium for this. Flyers are looking to get younger and they get two good players to build with.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

I'd rather keep Ghost on his baller contract, but Drouin is pretty awesome

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Even though Ghost is having a down season, I’d still keep Ghost.

Ghosts career PPG is better then Drouin’s at this point and Gostisbehere is a defenseman, that’s kinda a red flag to me on Drouin.

Drouin is a skilled playmaker but isn’t a pressing need for philly and the thing that shys me away from Drouin is he’s defensive game, not that Ghosts is any better for a defenseman but Ghost is a offensive defenseman.

Mete doesn’t move the needle on anything the flyers need, philly needs bigger defenseman not undersized ones.

Ghost is currently playing the left side with Phil Myers but seems to be better on the right, maybe Ghosts scoring rate would go back up if he played back on the right side.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

noty

 

[dats81]

Mete is a non factor. Flyers don't need him, Flyers would not play him.

So it all comes down to:

Ghost
for
Drouin

One for one. Pure hockey trade.

If both GMs felt that it would improve their roster, it could very well happen that way.
Ghost having a down year and the emergence of Sanheim and Myers are the only reason we are even discussing this from the Flyers' perspective.

 

[Harhis]

Mete is a non factor. Flyers don't need him, Flyers would not play him.

So it all comes down to:

Ghost
for
Drouin

One for one. Pure hockey trade.

If both GMs felt that it would improve their roster, it could very well happen that way.
Ghost having a down year and the emergence of Sanheim and Myers are the only reason we are even discussing this from the Flyers' perspective.

If we are trading Ghost I want back game braking talent. Drouin is fine player but not enough. I'd rather wrap 1st rounder or something with Ghost and bring back better player than Drouin.

Edit. And I don't want to trade Ghost.

 

[1865]

We can trade Ghost, but I don't want to. Never trade a talented player on an ace contract in a bad year.

 

[Gaud]

Montreal is fine for forwards. They can afford to lose Drouin.

They badly need a number one blueliner on the left side. Gost addresses this as well as doubling as a PP Quarterback (also desperately needed)

On the flipside Gost is signed for four years to a good contract. You pay a premium for this. Flyers are looking to get younger and they get two good players to build with.

I wouldn't say fine for forwards.. or else we would still have Sergachev.

 

[Torontoborn]

I wouldn't say fine for forwards.. or else we would still have Sergachev.

and possibly Mcdonagh

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

nd yes Montreal needs a good LHD but they need more top line forwards

not true.... our biggest hole is our defense, not offense. We could also play better forecheck

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

Never trade a talented player on an ace contract in a bad year.

Pretty much Drouin situation.


Him and Julien are not going well at the moment.

I wouldn't touch Mete though ( he is doing well on the first line) for Ghost. Ghost is not worth a 1 first winger + 1 line D... it's too much.

at this state its' drouin + pick for Ghost or Drouin + Juulsen for Ghost. Mete is a big no.

 

[nuclear reactor]

Flyers have the cap space to sign a higher end forward like Panarin, and then maybe trade for a defenseman.

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

Flyers have the cap space to sign a higher end forward like Panarin, and then maybe trade for a defenseman.

oh ya, it is known that Panarin wants to come in Philly

 

[Dooble08]

Montreal: Drouin + Mete

Philly: Gostisbehere

Thoughts?

I'd prefer to keep Gostisbehere. He pairs nicely with Myers.

oh ya, it is known that Panarin wants to come in Philly

TBH the only person who really knows where Panarin wants to go is Panarin. It may be "reported" that he prefers Chicago, NY, or Florida. In the end if the Flyers are willing to give him a competitive offer as well as show him that they are ready to compete, I'm sure he'll at least consider them.

 

[Baksfamous112]

Habs need to add to Mete, not upgrade from him. That’s a hard no for me.

 

[Benstheman]

Not sure Ghost is the ideal D we would need. But at that point, i would consider something around him and Drouin.

Signing Duchene in the summer would push Domi back to Drouin's spot and everything would be ok.

I definately think Drouin is the odd man out if we finally go for that top 3 lhd we desperately need.

 

[AndHeMissedTheNet]

Currently the only scenario where i'm okay with trading Ghost is if, somehow, they land EK in free agency.

So let's pretend they do that then. How do i react to OP's offer? I agree with the person who said that Mete doesn't do much for the Flyers, but i wouldn't necessarily complain about having another solid young dman. If you treat it as Ghost for Drouin, i'm not so sure it's enough but the premise of the trade i'm okay with. I can live with acquiring a Drouin-type player as the main piece coming back in a Ghost trade, albeit preferably one who plays RW rather than LW.

 

[Starat327]

Philly isnt in a position to be trading defensemen for forwards. If Ghost goes, it needs to be a Top pairing Defensive RHD coming back at around the same age (no weber/petry).

I don't see a fit here.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Mete is a non factor. Flyers don't need him, Flyers would not play him.

So it all comes down to:

Ghost
for
Drouin

One for one. Pure hockey trade.

If both GMs felt that it would improve their roster, it could very well happen that way.
Ghost having a down year and the emergence of Sanheim and Myers are the only reason we are even discussing this from the Flyers' perspective.

I think Drouin is slightly worth more vs Gostisbehere but it's a very good 1/1 hockey discussion trade. It's close and it's anybodies guess at what players they become moving forward.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Philly isnt in a position to be trading defensemen for forwards. If Ghost goes, it needs to be a Top pairing Defensive RHD coming back at around the same age (no weber/petry).

I don't see a fit here.

Gostisbehere is not a for sure top pairing D man. He has very good offensive skills but his play in his own end as a D man is average at best. Certainly not known to be a shut down type D man and this means he is not a top pairing quality IMO. Drouin has issues in his game as well. Soft style but loads of skill.

What player matures more moving forward? Hard to predict. Gostisbehere has 2 years of maturity years on Drouin.

However, if the Flyers don't like how their D looks after trading Gost, then I get that. No deal that works. Habs are not adding Mete on top of Drouin. Were not adding anything

 

[Habs Halifax]

Habs need to add to Mete, not upgrade from him. That’s a hard no for me.

Adding Mete on top of Drouin to get Gost is a joke. Massive overpayment.

 

[Starat327]

Gostisbehere is not a for sure top pairing D man. He has very good offensive skills but his play in his own end as a D man is average at best. Certainly not known to be a shut down type D man and this means he is not a top pairing quality IMO. Drouin has issues in his game as well. Soft style but loads of skill.

What player matures more moving forward? Hard to predict. Gostisbehere has 2 years of maturity years on Drouin.

However, if the Flyers don't like how their D looks after trading Gost, then I get that. No deal that works. Habs are not adding Mete on top of Drouin. Were not adding anything

I'm not sure I understand your post at all. I made a simple statement that if we're trading Gostisbehere, the only hole we would want to fill is for a top pairing RHD.

You went off on some tangent about how he is 'average' defensively (which isnt true, look at last year when he was inarguably the best two way defenseman on the team, and anchored what was for most of the season, the best top pairing statistically in hockey), and how that holds him back from being a top pairing quality defenseman, which again, isnt true, unless you think Erik Karlsson is some defensive wizard (hint: hes not), or you dont think Erik Karlsson is a top pairing quality defender (hint: he is).