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I mean there's more to it than that, but does me thinking that van Dijk should have won the Ballon d'Or last season mean I think that he's a better player than Messi (before this becomes a thing, I've stated many times I think Messi is the best player of all time)? Seasonal awards are not a measure of the best player necessarily. You can have a better season or accomplish more in a season without being the better player.
Yeah, sorry, it was late and I was replying on my phone. My bad. You're also right about it being difficult to compare attacking and defending players and their relative impacts on the team, which is why I really think these awards should be broken up in general but that's another discussion altogether.
How is that not close? Also how does that not make it more impressive that a young player bought as a winger to be a prospect by one of the best teams in the world, with almost no expectations, fought his way to a starting spot on the team and has starred in it ever since? If anything that's more impressive in a single season context considering Sancho was already a starter last season also.
I think it's pretty weird that you think some of those players are even close to what Davies has shown this season, but to each their own I guess.
Considering people are already pushing the narrative that Davies is the best LB in the world, at 19, it's pretty fair to say he's performing at a 'World Class' level. His not starting the season as a starter, again, should be irrelevant given how much he's ended up playing and how he's played with the opportunity. The point about it being for Bayern Munich is that it's a lot easier to break through as a teenager outside of the top clubs in the world given the expectations on those clubs; that he's doing it for them despite their having other world class options to use there (Alaba for example) speaks to his ability. Lucas Hernandez has essentially become a back-up and they paid what, 88m for him?
Does that really make sense given Joao Felix won it last year and he wasn't a starter at the beginning of the season either? I also don't think Felix should have won the award but eh.
That you think that Dest and Saka are even having comparable seasons to what Davies is doing says about all I need to know (speaking of homerism...) Tell me about the prestige of Ajax's young player of the year (we'll ignore that even Ajax fans don't think that Dest was that good, nor deserving of a move to a top club). Once again though, there's a major difference between playing for Ajax and playing for Bayern Munich and especially in this context since Dest was especially poor in the 'second half' of the season and wouldn't even have been playing if there was a viable alternative on the team.
I've seen arguments for Lahm over some of the very best attackers. Most people just pay attention to the flashy stuff and offensive numbers so I don't think there's much to read into that. There have been plenty of non-attacking players that have been better than Ronaldo at least throughout his career at various points. Messi is just on a different level of player though so it's not really a fair comparison, but even he has had seasons where you could make an argument for a non-attacking player (van Dijk last season, Modric rightly or wrongly the year before, Sneijder certainly had a case, among many others). Soccer isn't black and white and I'm not in the camp that believes offensive production necessarily outweighs other aspects of the game.
Sure you can, and that applies to a lot of great young players that have had fantastic seasons this year. For me, Sancho, Haaland, Davies and Camavinga are above the rest...most by a decent margin, guys like Dest (especially lol), Saka, Torres, Vinicius Jr, Martinelli, Greenwood, Szoboszlai, Boadu and Reinier aren't close to those other 4 in terms of impact and performance this season.
