GDT: Gold Medal Game - February 25 - Russia vs Germany

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  1. Baxterman Registered User

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    LOL @ people trying to say the inferiority complex is coming from Canadian fans, even if we wanted to its too late as European fans have cornered the market when it comes to hockey inferiority complexes.
     
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    My opinion is that Canada was the most effective team in Sochi and probably would have won under any circumstances, but the fact that their games were officiated by Canadian refs diminishes their victory. Most officiating calls in hockey are discretionary, so you would have to literally analyze every significant event for discretionary decisions; for example, to call a penalty or not to call a penalty. Referees are human, so the decision to select a game ref who has a conflict of interest is ludicrous. This is what the NHL insisted on in order to agree to participation. So that gives everyone the right to question their motives.
     
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    To have their win diminished those refs would have had to have made obvious calls in Canadas favor that allowed them to gain an advantage in winning and as we all know that didn't happen as they toyed with sweden and won easily against them.

    Canada wrecked sweden in that gold medal game, you , me and every other fan that watched it knows this so why are you trying to mislead people here saying this crap? not that anyone here that is being honest will fall for it anyway.

    The refs could have been from anywhere, they were a total non factor as Canada proved they were just far better then that swedish team.

    Canada was the best, they proved it.

    You appear to have struck out.
     
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    Thanks for the laughs. Russians had home ice, and choked like dogs in 2014. I remember you said on this forum, before the Olympics in 2014, that Canada would struggle on the big ice (LOL). You said Russia was going to win (LOL). What happened with your prediction in 2014? Sucks that the NHL could not participate this year. This year's Canadian team would have been better than 2014.

    They would have smacked down the overrated Russian defense, and destroyed them like they did in 2010, and 6-1 in the Gold Medal game of the 2015 World Championships (even though i consider the WHC not a true best on best). 2015 was the one year, Canada sent a very good team in the World Championships, and smacked down the Russians in the Gold Medal Game. Did the 6-1 Canada win over Russia in the Gold Medal Game of 2015, was because of the Refs? They were not Canadian if i recall. Your marshmallow defense, and overrated forwards would have been beaten again in 2018, if it was a true best on best. Canada, Sweden, USA, and Finland, would all have been ahead of Russia, in my opinion, if the NHL did not mess up by not going to the Olympics.

    Congrats on your Gold. The only way Russia can win, is if 424 Canadians are not allowed to leave their NHL teams. Almost lost to a German team, that was not a powerhouse in any way. Canada's roster this year, had players i had to personally Google to find out who the hell they were. I did not even know who the hell that backup goalie was for Canada, who looked terrible in some of the goals against Germany. Russia have not won a best on best tournament in the Olympics, or any one of the World Cups. Failed in 1998, 2002, 2006, 2010, and 2014 Olympics. Failed in the 1996, 2004, and 2016 World Cup. The truth hurts.

    Sweden won in 2006, and the Czechs won in 1998. The USA won the World Cup in 1996. If the Refs were biased for Canada, how come they won, and Russia did not?

    Russia have choked like dogs in every best on best tournament. I guess when Canada crushed Russia 7-3 in 2010, was that because of the Canada Refs? Look at each of the Canada games in the Olympics, they did not win because of the Refs. They were the best team. One of the most stupidest comments i ever heard. Keep living in your delusions. The Soviets were only dominant in the Olympics in the 1970's and 1980's, by beating up everyone's amateurs, except 1980. This tournament did not prove anything, since it was another Spengler Cup type tournament. Realize what you won.
     
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    I love how vocal you are over such a minor issue. NA lost. It's a fact. Because of Gary Bettman and the NHL mayber. But it is your Gary and your league. Deal with it. Try winning next time. Every lengthy post from NA side again just proves you care, and care a lot about losing this one.
     
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    The only delusional fans in hockey are generally Canadian upset that their game was taken away by the Soviets and refined to a point where it became an art form to watch. When it comes to discussing the great players of the game the arguments are so Canadian centric as to be embarrassing. Beating amateurs ? Another nonsensical myth. Asterisk this and asterisk that. All the record books won't have one. Germany are the real winners etc,etc. And all this rubbishing of the tournament is an indirect insult as well to the likes of the German team. If the gold medal is worthless then ergo so is the silver and even the bronze won by those Canadian amateurs who apparently play in a professional league.

    The real upset is that Russia has another gold medal and are the Olympic champions and no matter the denials it does dig at the Canadian psyche. And as to the future given the number of rinks and players Canada have is more than most countries combined of couse they have a huge advantage. But Russia is on the way back after the shambles post 1990. I'm not surprised Don Cherry has survived so long in Canada having read the posts in this forum after the gold medal game.

    Funniest one being Datsyuk is a loser. Look in the mirror mate.
     
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    It's a pity that the NHL cannot do the decent thing and properly renumerate European clubs be they from Sweden, Russia, Finland and the Czech Republic and others for developing the players that make the NHL what it is. Without players like Barkov, Laine, Eriksson, Malkin, Pastrnak and all the others it would be a far more dismal league.
     
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    Always an excuse eh ? This is what I mean. Hockey is fundamental to the Canadian pysche. It's a way of life (most of my family are Canadian), anything that undermines that seems to bring out all sorts of irrationality. For most Canadians the idea that any non Canadian player or team could ever be better than their best from the old dominion is simply unacceptable.
     
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    Instead of talking nonsense I suggest you have a closer look at the rosters of the teams involved. Maybe ask Bill Barber about 1981.
     
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    The real delusional folks are the Russian posters, who now are thinking they are better than Canada, because they won this Spengler Cup tournament. I actually picked Russia to win Gold before the Olympics. I said Canada would be lucky to medal. Why would i be upset that Russia won? I only truly care about best on best tournaments. Frankly, to be honest, I did not even pay attention to these games until the Semis. It is hard to watch a Team Canada, that is filled with minor league talent, who could not make it in the NHL. My only problem is how some of the Russian posters are saying Canada had Canadian referees in the Olympics, and deserve an asterisk for their Gold Medals in 2014 and other years (lol). What a joke. I present facts. You cannot call yourself the best- if you have never won a best on best Olympics. 37 years ago, Russia won the Canada Cup in 1981. They have not won a best on best tournament since that time. That includes 6 World/Canada Cups since 1981, and 5 best on best Olympics. That is the only point I was making. Congrats on the Gold, but 424 Canadian players were playing in the NHL, while former NHL all stars like Datsyuk and Kovalchuk still played for Russia. Realize that this does not make you the best. That is my only point. Sadly, there was no NHL participation in the Olympics. If there was- I think Canada would had a better roster than 2014. It would have been an amazing Olympics, but we were left with a Spengler Cup level Olympics. The fault does lie with the NHL owners and Bettman. A real shame.
     
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