Goaltender is the key to success

Is goaltender the key to success?

  • Yes, goalie can carry the team alone

  • Yes.

  • No


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Aurinko

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It all comes down to the goalie in hockey.

The confidence of the team is built around goaltender. After a win the players are honest about it and always credit the goalie in a very specific way.

In the playoffs things amplify; it's a mental battle for the goalie alone. You can blame team in your head or you can accept that you could have stopped the puck yourself and find a way to grow.
 

TaLoN

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If it was more about goaltending than anything else, Carey Price might have accomplished something in the post season.

You have to be able to score goals to win games...ie score more goals than your opponent.

So quality goaltending is needed, as is quality defense, but neither will get you anywhere if you can't put the puck in the net at all.
 
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DANOZ28

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its a team effort , the goalie is just the last line of defense so the most visible if he makes a mistake. i will add that a hot goalie in the playoffs is extremely important. ps2 you win zero games you score zero goals.
 

Goose312

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Goalie is the most important position if it's bad. It's the least important position to upgrade from good to elite. It's also the one guy that can end up carrying a team to a cup. In short, goalies are weird.
 
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Wabit

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The most a goalie can do is keep the game tied 0-0. There still needs to be goal scoring from the rest of the team. A goalie isn't "the" key to success, but he is one of the main factors of success. Prime Hasek didn't bring a Cup to Buffalo, and he was so far ahead of the other goalies in skill.

A good goalie can make a bad team look better than it is, and a bad goalie can make a good team look bad.
 
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ThatGuy22

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Goalie is the most important position if it's bad. It's the least important position to upgrade from good to elite. It's also the one guy that can end up carrying a team to a cup. In short, goalies are weird.
This is the correct answer.

Having an Average or better goaltender is really important to a team. Whether that goaltender is closer to the 15th best or the best really isn't all that important.
 

W75

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It helps, but without the team we're just ralking about Save % instead of winning. If you let 100 shots and have 10, it's not going anywhere. Goalie can ignite the team though.

Good, yeah, not too expensive. But then there's the thing when everything starts to click. Together. Magic, confidence, heroism, stories, poems, songs, novels, operas, The Cup..

~1 team out of 31 wins something in the end.

Then there are Haseks, Roys and Brodeurs, but they don't make those anymore. Too damn difficult and expensive.
 

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No position can carry a team all by itself but Goalie is the most important position IMHO
The most important position to not have a bad player, sure... but all you need is average at best.

In a cap world, the last thing you need is a $8mil+ goalie. That will kill a team's chances to ice a good enough team in front of said goalie.

I'd rather spend the cash on the skaters in front of the goalie, and just get a goalie who isn't bad.
 

PuckInTheNards

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The most important position to not have a bad player, sure... but all you need is average at best.

In a cap world, the last thing you need is a $8mil+ goalie. That will kill a team's chances to ice a good enough team in front of said goalie.

I'd rather spend the cash on the skaters in front of the goalie, and just get a goalie who isn't bad.

Red Wings built cup teams exactly the way you suggest. I don't disagree with you about paying a goalie, either but not for the same reason - seems like year in, year out goalies are too up and down to predict accurate value for them. Price and Fleury are excellent examples - paying high AAV with a lot of term for a goalie is a recipe for disaster (of course, so is having a bad goalie)
 

Binister

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The last goalie who has been able to do that was Dominik Hasek. Right now Dubnyk is showing glances of it. He really has been our MVP and I don't even know how many Ws would've gone away if it wasn't Dubnyk's stellar play.
 

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