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Go Back In Time: And Fix the Edmonton Oilers (Through the Draft Only)

KingPuckChoo

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Scenario: I woke up one day as the GM of the Oilers and I was handed back all the picks and the same draft positions from the year following Edmonton's Stanley Cup Finals (2007) up to 2012

I'm allowed to pick players that Edmonton should have picked with the knowledge i have of the players today

THE HOCKEY GODS IMPOSED 2 RULES ON ME:

RULE #1: Your foresight is limited - You can only pick another player from the same round (i.e. if Jamie Benn's been selected in the 5th round, you can't use your 4th round pick to select him, you must wait for your 5th round pick)

RULE #2: You can't pick a player that was chosen before your turn (i.e. if you hold the 5th overall pick... you can't choose players that gone 1 through 4, but you can choose any that went from 5 to 30)

NOTE: DING! DING! DING! means EDM actually got it right


so here's what i've got:


2007 DRAFT
1st ROUND PICK
Logan Couture (C/L) 9th overall (EDM PICK: S. Gagner 6th overall)
Max Pacioretty (L) 22nd overall (EDM PICK: A. Plante 15th overall)
Ben Smith (D) 27th overall (EDM PICK: R. Nash 21st overall)

4th ROUND PICK
Justin Falk (D) 110th overall (EDM PICK: L. Omark 97th overall)

5th ROUND PICK
Jamie Benn (L) 129th overall (EDM PICK: M. Kytnar 127th overall)

6th ROUND PICK
Nick Bonino (C/L) 173th overall (EDM PICK: W. Quist 157th overall)


2008 DRAFT
1st ROUND PICK
Jordan Eberle (R) 22nd overall (EDM PICK: J. Eberle) DING! DING! DING!

4th ROUND PICK
T.J. Brodie (D) 114th overall (EDM PICK: J. Motin 103rd overall)

5th ROUND PICK
Mark Borowiecki (D) 139th overall (EDM PICK: P. Cornet 133rd overall)

6th ROUND PICK
Tommy Wingels (R) 177th overall (EDM PICK: T. Hartikainen 163rd overall)

7th ROUND PICK
Anders Lindback (G) 207th overall (EDM PICK: J. Bendfeld 193rd overall)


2009 DRAFT
1st ROUND PICK
Chris Kreider (L) 19th overall (EDM PICK: M. Paajarvi 10th overall)

2nd ROUND PICK
Robin Lehner (G) 46th overall (EDM PICK: A. Lander 40th overall)

3rd ROUND PICK
Cody Eakin (C) 85th overall (EDM PICK: T. Hesketh 71st overall)
Kevin Connauton (D) 83rd overall (EDM PICK: C. Abney 82nd overall)

4th ROUND PICK
Marcus Foligno (L/R) 104th overall (EDM PICK: K. Bigos 99th overall)
Sami Vatanen (D) 106th overall (EDM PICK: T. Rajala 101st overall)

5th ROUND PICK
Marcus Kruger (C) 149th overall (EDM PICK: O. Roy 133rd overall)


2010 DRAFT
1st ROUND PICK
Taylor Hall (L) 1st overall (EDM PICK: Taylor Hall) DING! DING! DING!

2nd ROUND PICK
Justin Faulk (D) 37th overall (EDM PICK: T. Pitlick 31st overall)
Tyler Toffoli (R) 47th overall (EDM PICK: M. Marincin 46th overall)
Calvin Pickard (G) 49th overall (EDM PICK: C. Hamilton 48th overall)

3rd ROUND PICK
Radko Gudas (D) 66th overall (EDM PICK: R. Martindale 61st overall)

4th ROUND PICK
Philipp Grubauer (G) 112th overall (EDM PICK: J. Blain 91st overall)

5th ROUND PICK
Brendan Gallagher (R) 147th overall (EDM PICK: T. Bunz 121st overall)

6th ROUND PICK
Mark Stone (R) 178th overall (EDM PICK: B. Davidson 162nd overall)
Anthony Bitetto (D) 168th overall (EDM PICK: D. Czerwonka 166th overall)

7th ROUND PICK
Frederik Andersen (G) 187th overall (EDM PICK: K. Pelss 181st overall)
Zach Trotman (D) 210th overall (EDM PICK: K. Jones 202nd overall)


2011 DRAFT
1st ROUND PICK
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins (C) 1st overall (EDM PICK: RNH) DING! DING! DING!
Connor Murphy (D) 20th overall (EDM PICK: O. Klefbom 19th overall)

2nd ROUND PICK
Boone Jenner (L/C) 37th overall (EDM PICK: D. Musil 31st overall)

3rd ROUND PICK
Vincent Trocheck (C) 64th overall (EDM PICK: S. Perhonen 62nd overall)
Andy Andreoff (C/L) 80th overall (EDM PICK: T. Ewanyk 74th overall)

4th ROUND PICK
Johnny Gaudreau (L) 104th overall (EDM PICK: D. Simpson 92nd overall)
Tobias Rieder (W/C) 114th overall (EDM PICK: T. Rider) DING! DING! DING!

5th ROUND PICK
Andrew Shaw (C/R) 139th overall (EDM PICK: M. Gernat 122nd overall)

7th ROUND PICK
Ondrej Palat (L) 208th overall (EDM PICK: F. Tuohimaa 182nd overall)


2012 DRAFT
1st ROUND PICK
Filip Forsberg (L/R) 11th round pick (EDM PICK: N. Yakupov 1st overall)

2nd ROUND PICK
Damon Severson (D) 60th overall (EDM PICK: M. Moroz 32nd overall)

*2012 limited to the first 2 rounds because rounds 3 to 7 just too early to call
**2013 too early to call






so without further ado , here's your EDMONTON OILERS REVISITED:

Taylor Hall - Logan Couture - Filip Forsberg
Jamie Benn - Boone Jenner - Jordan Eberle
Max Pacioretty - Nick Bonino - Tyler Toffoli
Chris Kreider - Andrew Shaw - Tommy Wingels
Ondrej Palat

T.J. Brodie - Justin Faulk
Sami Vatanen - Brendan Smith
Damon Severson - Radko Gudas
Connor Murphy

Frederik Andersen
Robin Lehner
Philipp Grubauer
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So the team is only made of players under 27 years old?

I'm sure most of these players would not have developped into the player they are today, the team would probably still blow.
 
HabsQC

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Impossible to make all the right choices. Stop living in the past. Way to fix the oilers : start by getting McDavid. Play him with Hall. See what happens.
 
KingPuckChoo

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was just a fun exercise of what, at least some, of the choices could have been

people just grill everything, even when it's a game!
 
WhiskeyYerTheDevils

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I think its a fun exercise. Edmonton has been really bad in rounds 2+ since like 2008.

Would be more interesting to rank the top 5 players per round and see how often Edmonton drafted one of those guys. If their drafting is average, they should get a top 5 player per round 1 in every 6 rounds.

I don't think that's the case.
 

missinthejets

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If you're going back in time to fix the oilers by drafting go back to 2003 and do that draft right and I bet they don't get anywhere near as bad as they ever did.

If they had kept their original draft pick instead of trading down they could have taken Ryan Getzlaf, or Zach Parise (who was taken with their pick). Hell even if they still traded down Ryan Kesler, Mike Richards and Corey Perry were still on the board. That's not to mention the other players who aren't as good as those guys but are still a damned sight better than what they did get in that draft.

They didn't do any better in the 2nd round either that year.
 

Yanda

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Wouldnt matter. Edmonton destroys young talent. If they get McDavid he will prob top-out as a Taylor Hall or Eric Staal. Even if they could change there roster with the OP they would have the same problem, just different careers ruined.
 
DFC

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I knew the Oilers were bad at picking in non-1st rounds... but wow. That's quite a list of nobodies.
 
Captain Bowie

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Try doing it realistically. Only change 1 or 2 picks per year. No one expected Benn to be a top line player or half those late rounders to even make the NHL.

2007 Draft:
6 - Gagner (#9 Couture)

2009 Draft:
10 - Paajarvi (#14 Kulikov)
101 - Rajala (#104 Foligno)

2010 Draft:
31 - Pitlick (#47 Toffoli) I remember Toffoli and Pitlick projected to both be late 1st rounders, so not much of a stretch

2012 Draft:
1 - Yakupov (#2 Murray)


Hall - Couture - Eberle
Perron - Nugent-Hopkins - Purcell
Foligno - Draisaitl - Toffoli
bunch of stupid tough guys

Kulikov - Petry
Murray - Ference
Schultz - Fayne

Scrivens
Fasth


Yeah, they still suck.
 
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jking

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Do this for the leafs. Worst drafting team in the history of the NHL
 
iCanada

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Not really fair to criticize the Oilers on Pelss. Dude was killed at the age of 19. Not to say he would have panned out, but that's like criticizing the nucks fire picking Luc, or the Rangers for picking cherepanov.
 
viceroy

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Kinda pointless. Any team could be bolstered if the drafts could be done over with foreknowledge.

However I wonder if the giant black hole of suck of the Oilers could ruin someone as talented as McDavid? Sometimes watching "highlights" of Edmonton games feels like you're standing at the edge of an event horizon.
 
keslerbomb

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This is dumb. If you take any team and make the best pick available with hindsight you're going to end up good. There's always a few gems in the later rounds, if Edmonton got to pick all of them of course it will fix them.
 
Lunatik

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I will change no more than 3 in a year or else it's too easy. Not that it matters because I believe they would have messed up the development of most if not all of the players.


2007
- Draft Logan Couture instead of Sam Gagner
- Draft Ian Cole instead of Alex Plante
- Draft Max Pacioretty instead of Riley Nash

2008
- Draft TJ Brodie instead of Johan Motin
- Draft Ben Smith over Teemu Hartikainen

2009
- Draft Zack Kassian instead of Magnus Paajarvi-Svensson
- Draft Marcus Foligno instead of Kyle Bigos
- Draft Sami Vatanen instead of Toni Rajala

2010
- Draft Justin Faulk instead of Tyler Pitlick
- Draft Tyler Toffoli instead of Martin Marincin

2011
- Draft Connor Murphy instead of Oscar Klefbom
- Draft John Gibson instead of David Musil
- Draft Andrew Shaw instead of Martin Gernat

2012
- Ryan Murray instead of Nail Yakupov


Taylor Hall - Logan Couture - Jordan Eberle
Max Pacioretty - Ryan Nugent-Hopkins - Tyler Toffoli
Marcus Foligno - Andrew Shaw - Zack Kassian
Matt Hendricks - Boyd Gordon - Ben Smith
Luke Gazdic, Mark Arcobello

TJ Brodie - Sami Vatanen
Ryan Murray - Justin Faulk
Ian Cole - Mark Fayne
Connor Murphy

Ben Scrivens
John Gibson
 
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