Management GM Pierre Dorion WORST moves #4

[Xspyrit]

GM Pierre Dorion (2016-present) WORST moves

#1 - Mika Zibanejad (23 y/o) + 2018 2nd round pick (#33 OA) for Derick Brassard (29 y/o)
#2- Kyle Turris (28 y/o) + 2019 1st (#4 OA) + Shane Bowers + 2019 3rd (#63 OA) for Matt Duchene (27 y/o)
#3- Mark Stone (26 y/o) for Erik Brannstrom + 2020 2nd (#61 OA Egor Sokolov)
#4-




Of course all of this is with the benefit of hindsight, we are starting to look at the end results of these moves


Some personal notes and options to add later

- Johnny Oduya (35 y/o) contract : 1 year x 2.25 (played way too much for where he was at, it was his last year in the NHL)
- Craig Anderson (37 y/o) extension : 2 years x 4.75 (that seemed very high for a goalie who was aging/declining)
- Anders Nilsson (29 y/o) extension : 2 years x 2.6 (uh too much too fast once again)
- Ron Hainsey (38 y/o) : 1 year x 3.5 (3rd in TOI/GP for D-men, best he could get I suppose)
- Evgeni Dadonov (27 y/o) contract : 3 years x 5.0 (vast majority liked that signing but he didn't fit in Ottawa. Dorion made a nice trade to get out of the contract thought, getting 1 year of Holden and a 3rd round pick)
- Michael Del Zotto (31 y/o) contract : 2 years x 2.0 (doesn't seem like it was a good idea, hindsight or not)
- Alex Chiasson for Patrick Sieloff
- Hiring Guy Boucher and staff
- Hiring DJ Smith and staff

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[Sens of Anarchy]

Hoff -the room is broken . The room is fixed BS that he had nothing to do with

 

[Emerica]

Hoffman deal.

Dorion being steadfast on not dealing him within the division, taking the lesser deal to send him to SJ, only for Wilson to flip him to Florida few hours later. Tallon and Wilson played him like a fiddle

 

[Xspyrit]

What to do with this?

Ryan Dzingel (26 y/o) for Anthony Duclair (23 y/o) + 2020 2nd (#52 OA) + 2021 2nd (#37 OA)


This deal looked like a homerun, we were very happy with it... Fast forward today :

- We let 25 y/o Anthony Duclair walk for nothing as a RFA. He has 48 pts in 60 GP with the Panthers
- We used one the 2nd round picks to acquire Matt Murray (and then give him 4 years x 6.25)
- We used the other 2nd round pick to acquire Derek Stepan...

 

[DrEasy]

What to do with this?

Ryan Dzingel (26 y/o) for Anthony Duclair (23 y/o) + 2020 2nd (#52 OA) + 2021 2nd (#37 OA)


This deal looked like a homerun, we were very happy with it... Fast forward today :

- We let 25 y/o Anthony Duclair walk for nothing as a RFA. He has 48 pts in 60 GP with the Panthers
- We used one the 2nd round picks to acquire Matt Murray (and then give him 4 years x 6.25)
- We used the other 2nd round pick to acquire Derek Stepan...

Well the initial deal was very good, the fact that he undid it (and worse) with a sequence of bad moves is a separate story...

 

[Xspyrit]

Well the initial deal was very good, the fact that he undid it (and worse) with a sequence of bad moves is a separate story...

I know lol but didn't realize it was that bad, thought one of the seconds was used to trade up for Tyler Kleven. It's like winning a good amount at the lottery, going to the casino to celebrate and come back home empty

 

[Tuna99]

Somewhere on this list Dorion’s press conferences between 2017-2019 should be added

 

[SensFactor]

Easily Hoffman deal. We got nothing back.

 

[inthewings]

What to do with this?

Ryan Dzingel (26 y/o) for Anthony Duclair (23 y/o) + 2020 2nd (#52 OA) + 2021 2nd (#37 OA)


This deal looked like a homerun, we were very happy with it... Fast forward today :

- We let 25 y/o Anthony Duclair walk for nothing as a RFA. He has 48 pts in 60 GP with the Panthers
- We used one the 2nd round picks to acquire Matt Murray (and then give him 4 years x 6.25)
- We used the other 2nd round pick to acquire Derek Stepan...

I don't think the trade was bad. All of the assets were utterly wasted, but that's a completely separate issue.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Easily Hoffman deal. We got nothing back.

The cap dump we got back was worse than nothing.

 

[Xspyrit]

The cap dump we got back was worse than nothing.

Downgrading a 5th to a 6th too

I thought Boedker still had some gas left in the tank (because he was a decent player before) but he apparently didn't have much left so he was really a "cap dump"

I was trying to "defend" Dorion back then giving him the benefit of the doubt but eventually, I ran out of arguments. What I thought was "rookie mistakes" and "mulligans" became "ok the poor guy is completely out of his league"

 

[SPF6ty9]

Somewhere on this list Dorion’s press conferences between 2017-2019 should be added

You could probably have a ranking of those unto itself. "We are a team", "my proudest day", "on the 7th day god created Erik Karlsson", "I make the hockey decisions, not Mr. Melnyk", "if anyone has a problem come find me at Carp arena", "this is Pierre from Orleans". *shiver*

 

[bicboi64]

Hoff deal. Why on earth did we give up a pick in moving him. Dude may have had off ice issues, but he was still a top 6 forward. SJ played us like a fiddle and it was embarrassing. We didn't even get any value out of Boedker and if we had at least gotten some prospects to develop that trade would have been salvaged smh