Management GM Pierre Dorion BEST moves #3

[Xspyrit]

GM Pierre Dorion (2016-present) BEST moves

#1 - Erik Karlsson (28 y/o) for 1st round pick (#3 OA Tim Stützle) + Josh Norris + Rudolfs Balcers + Chris Tierney + Dylan DeMelo + 2nd round pick (#37 OA Mads Sogaard*) + 2nd round pick (#39 OA Zack Ostapchuk)
#2- Drake Batherson (23 y/o) extension (6 years x 4.975)
#3-



* Ottawa traded up using the Panthers 2nd round pick and the Penguins 3rd round pick (swapped with Ottawa's 3rd in the Brassard trade)



Of course all of this is with the benefit of hindsight, we are starting to look at the end results of these moves

Some moves to add later

- Victor Mete (22 y/o) claimed on waivers
- Zack Smith (31 y/o) for Artem Anisimov (31 y/o)
- 5th for Mike Reilly then traded for a 3rd
- 4th for Austin Watson
- Brady Tkachuk extension (7 years x 8.2)
- Artem Zub extension (2 years x 2.5)

Let me know if you have any suggestions!

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[bert]

When you look at the worst moves compared to the best moves its pretty easy to see why this rebuild isnt where you would hope it would be.

 

[TheDebater]

It was a toss up between Brassard and Dzingel for me, mainly because at the time I had no clue how he was able to re-coup a 1st round pick, a top goalie prospect and a 3rd round pick for Brassard who I felt was declining as a player and did not have much value.

With that said, I voted for the Dzingel trade because seeing Duclair today makes that trade an absolute steal especially with TWO 2nd round picks and not just one. Amazing trade, I just wish we had kept Duclair he would have been a perfect fit on our 2nd line right now.

 

[Xspyrit]

It was a toss up between Brassard and Dzingel for me, mainly because at the time I had no clue how he was able to re-coup a 1st round pick, a top goalie prospect and a 3rd round pick for Brassard who I felt was declining as a player and did not have much value.

With that said, I voted for the Dzingel trade because seeing Duclair today makes that trade an absolute steal especially with TWO 2nd round picks and not just one. Amazing trade, I just wish we had kept Duclair he would have been a perfect fit on our 2nd line right now.

Yeah absolute steal return that already got spent though... All we have left is an overpaid goalie. The other 2nd round pick was used to trade for Derek Stepan

 

[TheDebater]

Yeah absolute steal return that already got spent though... All we have left is an overpaid goalie (we used the other 2nd to trade up and draft Kleven)

Hey now, this is the positive thread, take that kind of talk elsewhere.

 

[LudwigVonKarlsson]

Going with Chabot extension followed by Brassard trade, rest are pretty meh aside from Pageau.

 

[PlayOn]

Jury’s still out on Gus and JBD, but if Gus becomes a legit #1 and JBD is a top 4 dman, that’s excellent value for Brassard and takes away some of the sting from the Zib trade.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Brassard trade was excellent.

Landed us what might become the best goalie to ever play for this team.

Chabot signing also monstrous.

 

[TkachukNorrisFacts]

Brassard trade is tainted for me because we could have gotten more if we just kept Zibanejad and traded him for futures.

Chabot signing to me is looking like less of a steal as every season goes by. Still love it, but less and less with time.

Finding Zub in Russia and signing him for anything let alone what we signed him for, both times he signed, to me is without a doubt # 3 and #4 on this list, and it's not even close.



ZUB!!!

 

[swiftwin]

When you look at the worst moves compared to the best moves its pretty easy to see why this rebuild isnt where you would hope it would be.

I was going to say the opposite. It really shows how the best moves are better than the worst moves.

Not to mention the fact that the top 2 worst moves happened before the rebuild started.

 

[SensFactor]

Getting JBD and Gus the Bus for me

 

[bert]

I was going to say the opposite. It really shows how the best moves are better than the worst moves.

Not to mention the fact that the top 2 worst moves happened before the rebuild started.

Can't be serious.... I mean why do you think the rebuild was necessary.... See bolded. The Zibanejad, Stone and Duchene moves are easily fireable on their own.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Should have kept stone. That’s it. That’s all. That’s the big big f*** up here.

 

[bicboi64]

Brassard trade, props to PD for recouping some assets that we desperately needed for a rebuild

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Should have kept stone. That’s it. That’s all. That’s the big big f*** up here.

Extremely well said. That should be number 1 for worst moves.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

The best move very easily in hindsight was the karlsson trade.

He got back 3rd overal, young top 6 center a good young top 9 winger and a good decently aged top 4 RD……and then he went and just got rid of two of these assets but nonetheless.

 

[Xspyrit]

I was going to say the opposite. It really shows how the best moves are better than the worst moves.

Not to mention the fact that the top 2 worst moves happened before the rebuild started.

The thing is... it's actually hard to make very bad moves when you're rebuilding... The team has been "normal" only 1 year out of 6 and it was basically the lineup he inherited minus Zibanejad, Dahlen and Chiasson, etc

Listen Dorion is capable of making good moves, but the problem here is that his "batting average" might be one of the worst in the league despite a very EASY setting : rebuilding.

If we eventually get out of our misery, it will most likely just be on our drafting prowess (of course Dorion is involved). That being, he will have done well on a few sales here (Karlsson, Brassard, Pageau, Dzingel). However, not even sure we can still count Dzingel as Duclair is gone, a 2nd was used to get Murray (ends up very overpaid) and the other 2nd was used to trade up and get Kleven

 

[Sensinitis]

Should have kept stone. That’s it. That’s all. That’s the big big f*** up here.

Our top 6 would look great with Stone in it. Thing is, how do we know Stone wanted to stay? He’s a competitive player who wants to win a Cup. Despite what was said in the media, I have my doubts.

But yeah, imagine if Stutzle had Stone on his RW. Would be ****ing amazing

 

[Xspyrit]

Our top 6 would look great with Stone in it. Thing is, how do we know Stone wanted to stay? He’s a competitive player who wants to win a Cup. Despite what was said in the media, I have my doubts.

But yeah, imagine if Stutzle had Stone on his RW. Would be ****ing amazing

IMO

Tkachuk - Norris - Stone
Stutzle - Pinto - Batherson
Paul - White - Brown
Formenton - ??? - Watson
Crookshank

 

[Back in Black]

Just getting rid of Karlsson and avoiding his big fat contract demands, was Dorion's best move.

 

[atmx093]

I feel like Dorion deserves a Happy Meal for all his hard work. Y'know, the arsenic napalm-laden version?
Edit: because he deserves to get fired, not poisoned.

 

[JackieDaytona]

Why isn't "Hallway High-Five" in this list of options? Clearly, it's his signature move. What he lacks in the ability to sign non-terrible UFAs and vets, he makes up for in the post-signing hallway fivers.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

The thing is... it's actually hard to make very bad moves when you're rebuilding... The team has been "normal" only 1 year out of 6 and it was basically the lineup he inherited minus Zibanejad, Dahlen and Chiasson, etc

Listen Dorion is capable of making good moves, but the problem here is that his "batting average" might be one of the worst in the league despite a very EASY setting : rebuilding.

If we eventually get out of our misery, it will most likely just be on our drafting prowess (of course Dorion is involved). That being, he will have done well on a few sales here (Karlsson, Brassard, Pageau, Dzingel). However, not even sure we can still count Dzingel as Duclair is gone, a 2nd was used to get Murray (ends up very overpaid) and the other 2nd was used to trade up and get Kleven

There is no easier time for a GM to operate (from a hockey ops perspective, maybe not pr) and he had some prime assets to sell unlike a lot of rebuilds. Results don't matter, you're allowed holes in your lineup regardless of consequence, and you have a license to move anyone for whatever you choose from what you can bargain for.

It was somewhat unprecedented to have such a solid group to sell off at once like he did, I'm open to being wrong but the only comparable I can think of is Pittsburgh selling all of Jagr, Kovalev, Straka, Lang, etc. way back in the day and my memory is a little fuzzy on that timeline.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

We let go of Balcers and demelo and the next day we were like “where are we ever gonna find a good bottom 6 winger and solid RD????”