GM Game #8: Seattle Expansion Edition by OB5 and SJSharks39

[hi]

You don't want to sign Joel Edmundson?

His qualifying offer is $3,000,000 and I'd rather use that cap space elsewhere.

Having said that, Joel Edmundson's rights are available for trade

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

His qualifying offer is $3,000,000 and I'd rather use that cap space elsewhere.

Having said that, Joel Edmundson's rights are available for trade

Edmundson is worth well over 3 mil. He's a young top-4 defenseman.

 

[OB5]

guys I am just realizing something-the expansion draft was done BEFORE free agency last time around will likely be done before then as well.

Should we be doing the expansion draft first?

 

[Llamamoto]

guys I am just realizing something-the expansion draft was done BEFORE free agency last time around will likely be done before then as well.

Should we be doing the expansion draft first?

I would do the expansion draft first, although both have benefits.

If we do the expansion draft first, teams don't need to protect UFAs.
If we do it after FA, teams will have to protect newly-signed players, making the game more interesting. Up to you.

 

[OB5]

I would do the expansion draft first, although both have benefits.

If we do the expansion draft first, teams don't need to protect UFAs.
If we do it after FA, teams will have to protect newly-signed players, making the game more interesting. Up to you.

I added a poll, majority will decide!

 

[MackAttack26]

Before no doubt.

I was about to ask this question anyways.

Seattle would be stacked if they were allowed to pick from post-UFA offers. Hard to protect that many.

Also just a more realistic timeline.

- Trading to adjust for expansion
- Expansion
- UFA

Give a couple days before trading/RFA signings. Then expansion one day. Then UFA start this weekend IMO.

 

[OB5]

Ok so it looks like we're trending towards having the expansion draft before free agency so we will be making a change.

Trading prior to expansion draft will go until Friday at 12 PM ET.

Expansion draft will occur then. After that we will open to up to free agency.

 

[LT]

Open for anything. You should all know who won’t be moving, though.

 

[Gecklund]

Quick question related to expansion draft. Is Girard exempt? He has only played 2 seasons in the NHL/AHL and I thought it was 3 but the capfriendly tool has him as not exempt.



Same question and problem but with Blackwood, Bratt, Hischier, and Butcher.

 

[MackAttack26]

Is there an expansion tool that tells you who would be exempt for this summer situation?

Or what are the rules again?

 

[Joey Moss]

Seattle Expansion Draft Simulator - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

 

[EP to Kuzmenko]

Quick question related to expansion draft. Is Girard exempt? He has only played 2 seasons in the NHL/AHL and I thought it was 3 but the capfriendly tool has him as not exempt.



Same question and problem but with Blackwood, Bratt, Hischier, and Butcher.

2 full seasons of pro make them eligible.

 

[Gecklund]

Is there an expansion tool that tells you who would be exempt for this summer situation?

Or what are the rules again?

It doesn't look like the tool works on capfriendly correctly. Basically any player that you have a question about, you should look at how many seasons they played I believe over 2 is not exempt.

 

[EP to Kuzmenko]

Seattle Expansion Draft Simulator - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

This isnt very accurate as it has EP(only 1 season) as needing protected. He will come the real expansion, which is what this is going based off of.

 

[Joey Moss]

2 full seasons of pro make them eligible.

McDavid was exempt from expansion after his 2nd season.

 

[Gecklund]

McDavid was exempt from expansion after his 2nd season.

I believe it is more than 2 so basically if they have a third season.

 

[hi]

The tool on capfriendly is assuming that the expansion draft will take place next summer, not this summer

 

[OB5]

Seattle Expansion Draft Simulator - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

This should be the standard for all.

 

[Gecklund]

This should be the standard for all.

The rules sure but the protection isn't correct on a lot of players.

 

[OB5]

The rules sure but the protection isn't correct on a lot of players.

So how do we handle this?

 

[Gecklund]

So how do we handle this?

I think that each GM should know who is exempt and isn't from their team. So basically if a player has 3 NHL/AHL seasons over 10 games then they are not exempt if they have less than that then they are. The rules were 2 seasons or less so a player like Girard for example had seasons of 6, 73, 82 so exempt. A player like Meier though had 67, 81, 78 so not exempt. A general rule of thumb that isn't applicable to all but most is that if a player has 2 more seasons on their ELC they should be exempt. That's not accurate for all though because not everyone signs three year ELCs.

 

[OB5]

I think that each GM should know who is exempt and isn't from their team. So basically if a player has 3 NHL/AHL seasons over 10 games then they are not exempt if they have less than that then they are. The rules were 2 seasons or less so a player like Girard for example had seasons of 6, 73, 82 so exempt. A player like Meier though had 67, 81, 78 so not exempt. A general rule of thumb that isn't applicable to all but most is that if a player has 2 more seasons on their ELC they should be exempt. That's not accurate for all though because not everyone signs three year ELCs.

Ok so let's follow this model.

In your roster threads please post your protected lists of either 8 skaters or 7 forwards 3 defenseman and a goalie, as well as the players you are leaving unprotected.

 

[Gecklund]

Ok so let's follow this model.

In your roster threads please post your protected lists of either 8 skaters or 7 forwards 3 defenseman and a goalie, as well as the players you are leaving unprotected.

What about starting an expansion draft thread so you can post your picks in there too? I'm fine either way just presenting another option.

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

What about starting an expansion draft thread so you can post your picks in there too? I'm fine either way just presenting another option.

I think that's a good idea.

 

[OB5]

What about starting an expansion draft thread so you can post your picks in there too? I'm fine either way just presenting another option.

Done!

What would I do without you guys