News: GM Fletcher expects RFAs to wait until July 1st
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He never said 4 UFA's. You are taking things out of context here. The 4 RFA's are waiting to see what the market looks like before they sign. This is pretty much happening league wide at the moment.
He said that the team needs to be upgraded in 4 areas, center (2c specifically), defense (hopefully a RHD), goalie (backup), and winger (alright that's a little surprising). This won't only be done through free agency. I think he will make at least 1 fairly large trade.
Around Carter Hart and possibly needing 2 goalie's. He can't throw all his chips in the 21 years bucket. Even though he played really well last year and will more than likely be the started this year, Fletcher is exercising all options.
It seems like. he trying to hit a home run this offseason and take us straight to being a contender. At this moment, I don't have a problem with it. We shall see what moves he makes or attempts to make.
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All the RFAs waiting until after July 1st is actually going to depress their salaries overall. The Flyers though, are the team I think most likely to offersheet one of the big name RFAs to some insane mega-deal.
I personally believe that the contracts of the 2016 RFA class is impacting the decisions of these players, influenced by their agents, and their agencies. The likes of MacKinnon, Barkov, Scheiffle, Jones, etc. have all surpassed the AAV of their contract by year 2 of the deal, but most are locked in for another 3-4 years. Scheiffle is locked in at $6.1 million until he is 30. Their contracts made sense AAV wise when they signed given their production against the rest of the league.
Converse that with the likes of Marner who finished 11th in scoring this season, Rantenen who was 17th and 16th in scoring these past 2 seasons, Point was 12th in scoring, Aho was 21st in scoring.
These guys don't want to give up UFA years for low amounts, plus they want to be paid even in RFA for their production.
If the league is trending younger, does that merely shift your prime years earlier, which means that they also end earlier? Who knows. Too early to tell. Benn had a bad year down to 53 points at age 30. Still has 6 yeas left at $9.5 million. How many years will he score at a PPG going forward?
Converse that with the likes of Marner who finished 11th in scoring this season, Rantenen who was 17th and 16th in scoring these past 2 seasons, Point was 12th in scoring, Aho was 21st in scoring.
These guys don't want to give up UFA years for low amounts, plus they want to be paid even in RFA for their production.
If the league is trending younger, does that merely shift your prime years earlier, which means that they also end earlier? Who knows. Too early to tell. Benn had a bad year down to 53 points at age 30. Still has 6 yeas left at $9.5 million. How many years will he score at a PPG going forward?
Definitely seems to be a shift in how top young players are approaching restricted free agency. As players get paid coming out of their entry level contracts it opens up a greater possibility of offer sheets. Teams with expensive veterans must be holding their collective breath and older RFA's must be wondering where the money will come from for them.
That’s probably a good reason for guys coming off elc to not give up many ufa years. If you hit the market aS a ufa at 28 you’ll be able to land that max term deal until 35/36. How long term a deal can Scheiffle ask for when he’s ufa at 31? Depends mostly on his health. How many of the great 2003 draft class would you want at the current cpa hits for another 4 years until they hit 38?
Top players will get paid. The middle class will get squeezed a bit but it’s likely more that they will have to change teams to get paid. If you’re a $4 million player you likely can’t stay with a top team who has to pay their elite guys. Have to move onto a rebuilding or borderline playoff team to get paid as they likely don’t have as many highly paid players. That’s where you go to get yours.
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The Flyers are and have always been an ownership-run team, not a management-run team. Hextall built arguably the best prospect pool in the NHL and was given the boot because the previous regime left him with a generational gap between his forwards and defense, ensuring bubble-team status.
It's not just the Weber deal. Pronger, Richards, Carter, Bryz & Briere were all signed to nonsense deals that the team had no interest in seeing through to the end. Ownership has no patience and loves making a big splash.
I agree with him based on current circumstances. The Flyers have cap space, a deep prospect pool and therefore the ability to shed draft picks, plus a GM and ownership looking to take a jump forward this offseason.
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Some "experts" think 7-8 year deals won't be as popular anymore.
NBA and NFL normally do 3-5 year deals no? The agents and elite players are chasing the rising salary cap.
NHL will see at least $2 million bump in salary cap next year and then probably another $2-3 million once SEA comes in. That bumps up the max deal a player can sign and now the high end talent get most of their $$ in signing bonuses which are taxed far less than actual base salary.
Looks like 4-5 year hyper inflated deals will be common place for some of the franchise players now.
NBA and NFL normally do 3-5 year deals no? The agents and elite players are chasing the rising salary cap.
NHL will see at least $2 million bump in salary cap next year and then probably another $2-3 million once SEA comes in. That bumps up the max deal a player can sign and now the high end talent get most of their $$ in signing bonuses which are taxed far less than actual base salary.
Looks like 4-5 year hyper inflated deals will be common place for some of the franchise players now.
Cap was pretty flat a few years ago. Lucky if it went up $1.5 mill. That big bump this past year of $5 mill might have changed players views about signing for big term.
Plus, there’s a benefit to being ufa at 27/28.
No player wants to lock in like Scheiffle did to 31 at just $6.1 million. They learned from the mistakes of prior rfa classes.
Plus, there’s a benefit to being ufa at 27/28.
No player wants to lock in like Scheiffle did to 31 at just $6.1 million. They learned from the mistakes of prior rfa classes.
The other part of it is how much of it can you give as a 'guarantee' or lump sum. Tavares reportedly turned down higher AAVs with less signing bonuses to take a more lump sum payment. Flyers have the financial backing to pay it all up front, for players who want that security.
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