Confirmed with Link: GM Dubas -- Part 2: What will he do next!?

[A1LeafNation]

That's Sergachev. Coburn is replacement level.

I'm willing to give McDonagh some more time before that.

I knew one of them was sergachev. So then the other 2p is Girardi? He is a 3p.

 

[A1LeafNation]

I knew one of them was sergachev. So then the other 2p is Girardi? He is a 3p.

Stralman ok got it. Nvm

 

[A1LeafNation]

The way I see it

Hedman > Rielly
McDonagh < Gardiner
Stralman = Zaitsev
Sergachev = Dermott
Girardi = Hainsey
Coburn = Carrick

We are in the same ballpark when it comes to comparing dmen with Tampa.

 

[ottomaddox]

The way I see it

Hedman > Rielly
McDonagh < Gardiner
Stralman = Zaitsev
Sergachev = Dermott
Girardi = Hainsey
Coburn = Carrick

We are in the same ballpark when it comes to comparing dmen with Tampa.

I agree with most of this, but the Gardiner/McDonagh comparison.

 

[A1LeafNation]

I agree with most of this, but the Gardiner/McDonagh comparison.

Gardiner is better now.

 

[Nithoniniel]

Stralman ok got it. Nvm

You made me doubt myself there for a moment.

 

[Prominence]

The way I see it

Hedman > Rielly I agree and by a large margin.
McDonagh < Gardiner I agree
Stralman = Zaitsev I disagree. Zaitsev looks good defensively because he works hard. He's only good with WAR/GAR metrics but is bad everywhere else. Stralman is close to an analytics darling.
Sergachev = Dermott I will leave out my criticism here as Sergachev started out strong in the beginning, but I heard about him less as the season went on.
Girardi = Hainsey Sure. Girardi improved with tampa, but was so awful when he signed that contract with nyr. Actually, Hainsey may be better, but I'll stay out of this one.
Coburn = Carrick I disagree. The argument for Carrick is if we consider contracts. Coburn is an average 2nd pairing d-man while carrick is a 3rd pairing d-man.

We are in the same ballpark when it comes to comparing dmen with Tampa.

 

[kk87]

The way I see it

Hedman > Rielly
McDonagh < Gardiner
Stralman = Zaitsev
Sergachev = Dermott
Girardi = Hainsey
Coburn = Carrick

We are in the same ballpark when it comes to comparing dmen with Tampa.

I'd say Sergachev is better than Dermott for now all things considered (although that could change); Stralman is better than Zaitsev for sure, unless he has a huge bounce back season; and McDonagh is at least slightly better than Gardiner

 

[Stephen]

Do we vulture the Trouba situation?

 

[Stephen]

The way I see it

Hedman > Rielly
McDonagh < Gardiner
Stralman = Zaitsev
Sergachev = Dermott
Girardi = Hainsey
Coburn = Carrick

We are in the same ballpark when it comes to comparing dmen with Tampa.

Bit of a stretch here. Stralman is better defensively, McDonagh is more of the kind of playoff defenseman you want compared to Gardiner, and I'd rather have Sergachev than Dermott...

 

[ottomaddox]

Gardiner is better now.

McDonagh is Tampa's 2nd best D. A two-time All Star and still an excellent big minute defenseman. Clearly I'm not a Gardiner fan, but he still doesn't stack up.

 

[A1LeafNation]

I think stralman is trending downwards and Coburn is a 3p same as Carrick.

 

[A1LeafNation]

McDonagh is Tampa's 2nd best D. A two-time All Star and still an excellent big minute defenseman. Clearly I'm not a Gardiner fan, but he still doesn't stack up.

I agree with everything you said, but past tense. He is no longer that.

 

[hector morrison]

Do we vulture the Trouba situation?

yes

 

[DopeyFish]

Coburn is a 2nd pairing wat

He's a 6th/7th at best... Trending down.
Carrick is 3rd pairing at worst but his analytics suggest he could be a 2nd pairing now.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Maybe Tavares puts in a call to his ex teammate for 2019:

Hyman(2.25) Tavares(11) Marner(7)
Marleau(6.25) Matthews(10) Nylander(7)
Johnsson(2.1) Kadri(4.5) Kapanen(2.1)
Grundstrom(0.925) Jooris(1) Brown(2.1)
Leivo(1.3)

Rielly(5) Zaitsev(4.5)
Dermott(0.863) Ellis(6)
Borgman(1.3) Liljegren(0.895)
Rosen(1.3) Holl(0.675)

Andersen(5)
Pickard (1)

Kessel(1.2)

85.258 Million

 

[ottomaddox]

My question is what is he going to do with all those goalies? They should be used as extras in some kind of deal no?

 

[A1LeafNation]

My question is what is he going to do with all those goalies? They should be used as extras in some kind of deal no?

Goalies have little value. Better to go into camp with all of them; this way you get to choose the best one for a back-up instead of guessing now which one will work out in a couple months.

 

[Duke Silver]

Scoring Chances Against - 23
High Danger Chances Against - 19

Both 5 on 5 S&VAdj

Still too high, but not as bad as it seems.

A 22nd-ranked HDCA and a 10th-ranked HDSV% is just begging for regression, though. We're playing with fire.

 

[Prominence]

If this was a thread from last year, McDonough would be the clear cut winner over Gardiner. However, McDonaugh has been regressing while gardiner is adjusting to top pairing. Gardiner has that negative stigma because he blew one game...badly. I would actually take Gardiner over mcdonagh.

Coburn is still serviceable. His shot suppression is a lot better than Carrick. Carrick can barely make the leafs team and while he does generate shots, his positional game, discipline and confidence is not there yet.

 

[LeafingTheWay]

The way I see it

Hedman > Rielly
McDonagh < Gardiner
Stralman = Zaitsev
Sergachev = Dermott
Girardi = Hainsey
Coburn = Carrick

We are in the same ballpark when it comes to comparing dmen with Tampa.

Their D is easily better.
Hedman > Rielly
McDonagh >= Gardiner
Stralman > Zaitsev (easily)
Sergachev > Dermott (I love Dermott, but Sergachev has offensive skills that Dermott doesn't possess while also being defensively similar)
Girardi < Hainsey
Coburn < Carrick

 

[PromisedLand]

JVR was told weeks before that Leafs were going a different route and won't be extending him

https://www.tsn.ca/jvr-thankful-for-leafs-clarity-before-july-1-1.1148421

Dubas is clear in his mind regarding the "Core". I like that!

 

[gabeliscious]

The way I see it

Hedman > Rielly
McDonagh < Gardiner
Stralman = Zaitsev
Sergachev = Dermott
Girardi = Hainsey
Coburn = Carrick

We are in the same ballpark when it comes to comparing dmen with Tampa.

we are no where near the same ballpark as tampa imo. Hedman is an elite #1 defenseman who is probably top 5 in the league. that in itself makes them significantly better in the position.

 

[Critical13]

Bit of a stretch here. Stralman is better defensively, McDonagh is more of the kind of playoff defenseman you want compared to Gardiner, and I'd rather have Sergachev than Dermott...

McDonagh just had an awful playoffs. I agree about Stralman and maybe Sergachev (although he cooled off considerably at the end of the year and playoffs).

 

[LeafFever]

Mcdonagh's deal is scary. He already look slow and past-his-prime. I am not a fan of his. Yzerman will regret it.