We gave up him and a first round pick for Ballard. Who cares what Florida did with him after. Still an awful trade.
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We gave up him and a first round pick for Ballard. Who cares what Florida did with him after. Still an awful trade.
Saying that Hamhuis has been bad is basically the quickest way of admitting you have zero ability to evaluate the performance of a hockey player. Jesus Christ.
Flash Walken
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He has to defend against his own defensive partner half the time. That's gotta be exhausting.
Huh? Garrison has been absolutely excellent all year and that's who he has played with. Hamhuis' struggles have nothing to do with his partner.
Grabner is a great PK'er and actually uses his speed to drive to the net - unlike Raymond who uses it to drive to the outside hashmarks for a weak wrister.
Hamhuis has been on par with Garrison for being our best d-man. Don't know what you're watching. It's easy to look good when you have Bieksa and Edler on your team, though.
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This reeks of a person who has never played a team sport.
This will be the last I speak of that.
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Because Florida is an excellent organization at evaluating talent. He's 25 and already has a 30+ goal season under his belt, and would have three 20 goal seasons already in this first three years if this season wasn't shortened.
Really? Lu for years would deflect his bad play and project it on the team instead. Schneider never does that. Only in the last two years has Lu changed and you can bet the Canucks had him sit with their pr experts for "training" in that regard.
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Are you kidding me? You think Hamhuis has been the same defender he was when he first got here?
Not even close. What are you watching?
He makes significantly more turnovers now than he did before. Never said he is a bad defenseman, but he's fallen just as significantly as this team has.
What would you call butt ending someone in the face and running around doing things clearly out of character.
Don't know what this has to do with me, but I've played plenty of sports my whole life, not sure why I need to answer to you.
This will be the last I speak of that.
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Who is something like 9th in icetime among Islander forwards in the playoffs. 11th in even strength icetime.
He's been good but not that good. And what this team needs is goals rather than a player who's been good at the other side of the game.
Look at the ranking in the post-season & regular season for the PK for both teams. Granted, it's tough to look good with the likes of Crosby/Malkin/etc. on the opposition PP. Still, this "asset" isn't a pressing need (yes, it should be better but there are other more urgent needs like scoring goals).
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What would you call butt ending someone in the face and running around doing things clearly out of character.
Don't know what this has to do with me, but I've played plenty of sports my whole life, not sure why I need to answer to you.
This will be the last I speak of that.
Desperation. Probably too late, but that is another argument to be made.
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Definitely they need goals.
Canucks miss Centres.
Good centres help make defenders look great, which helps make goalies look great.
What I'm noticing is that Vancouver doesn't have the centre depth to compete with the Sharks, probably the biggest factor in the lack of offense.
It's been pretty shocking how badly Thornton/Couture/Pavelski have outplayed Kesler/Hankypanky.
Missing Malholtra.
Yeah, you're probably right, and I'm pretty upset and emotional, but not only was this too late for this series, it was also too late PERIOD.
Make that play against Bolland 4 years ago and it might have actually galvanized the team, doing it last night, was like waving the white towel.
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The only thing were missing with Malhotra is a guaranteed won faceoff when it's needed. Other than that what?
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Manny in his prime was a true shutdown centre, one of the best in the league.
Ask any Leaf fan what Jay McClement does for their team, that's what Manny did for ours. One of the best "moneypuck" players.
Yea I have felt av has needed to go and this early exit is perhaps a necessary evil (although I would rather see us playing better), but its hard to cheer against him when that arrogant and full of excuses av is exchanged with a defeated av who maybe realizes he is done. Not just because he might be fired, but because he himself also realizes its time to move on and he will want out.
Of course a long summer to relax, and god forbid mg says i want you back, maybe the arrogant av would return, but i certainly hope we try a new coach.
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