GDT: GM#16 LA Kings vs Calgary Flames @7:00pm 11/10/18

[KINGS17]

This team won't really improve until next season, plain and simple. They seem to be caught between styles and look really confused.

And for f-sake, get Kopitar unglued from the halfwall on the pp!!!!! He's become so damn predictable and teams have scouted him perfectly!

It isn't like this is a first for Kopitar. It's not the coach or the system that has Kopitar's ass glued to the half wall, it's Kopitar.

 

[KingsFan7824]

Tanner Pearson seems to be regressing into Tobias Rieder.

But now he's just a body. Floating through the games with an occasional burst of energy to remind us he's not an actor who wondered off the set of The Walking Dead.

I'm going with 14-15 Richards.

This feels like it's going to end up going the way of the mid 90's post Gretzky teams. They need to blow everything up because they aren't close.

And they waited too long to trade Gretzky too.

The league isn't made up today for teams to get blown up. You can slowly chip away. Last year the Rangers traded McDonagh, Miller, and a couple UFA's. The Kings really have no UFA's to trade, and I guess Muzzin/Toffoli could be the McD/Miller equivalent, although both are older than the former Rangers, which is sort of weird. Even with that though, the Rangers still have many of the players they had last year, because they have to be cap compliant. Then at this year's deadline they can get rid of a couple more UFA's. It's a multi-year process, not just sell everything today.

 

[Kingspiracy]

Just a thought, do you think Kovalchuk could convince Panarin to come hear via trade or later on in free agency?

Perhaps, if Panarin is a masochist.

 

[Peter James Bond II]

Phaneuf 16 games. 0 points. -12 Nice!
Pearson 16 games 1 assist -8 Sweet!
Thompson 16 games 0 pts -2 crap on faceoffs.
Kempe 16 games 1 g 1 a -5
Lewis 16 games 2 g 1 a -8

Sit about half those guys next game. Why not? Send a REAL message. Put Luff back in, call up Brickley and put him in. Play Ladue next game. He was stellar his last game.

Not a single King has a PLUS +/-. Brown, Muzzin, Clifford and Ladue are all 0 though.

On a good note, Ontario did not lose tonight....but they didn't play.

 

[KingsFan7824]

Just a thought, do you think Kovalchuk could convince Panarin to come hear via trade or later on in free agency?

First the Kings have to get rid of some money/cap. Specifically Toffoli and Pearson, because Kovalchuk, Brown, and Panarin will take up a decent amount for 3 wingers. If they could clear the $8.35m that TT and TP take up, plus the $2.5 that will be gone for Thompson and Greene, that's probably enough for Panarin. It's going to be a tough $8.35m to clear though.

I guess you cross that bridge if it comes up, but I don't know if it's looking good.

 

[kilowatt]

with 11 points through 16 games (jesus christ thats bad), to reach 95 points, we would need to go 38-20-8 the rest of the way to sneak into the playoffs

 

[KingsFan7824]

November 10 Rapid Reaction (feat. Kristen Anderson): Flames 1, Kings 0 - LA Kings Insider

Anze Kopitar, on why the team is having such a hard time generating offense:
I don’t have the answer. I think if we did we’d probably correct it. So keep plugging away and we had some chances again and didn’t capitalize and you know it’s just, you’ve got to keep on working, that’s all there is to it.

Only the son of a coach can come up with an answer like I don't know.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Today's loss has not been credited yet on hockey-reference.com, but you can see that this is the worst start the Kings have had since 2006-07.
Kings Record History 16 Games Into a Season

In 2007, they finished with the 3rd worst record (Philly and Phoenix were the two worst), but Chicago, who was 5th worst, won the draft lottery and the Patrick Kane sweepstakes.

 

[Herby]

The Phaneuf trade is a total disaster, Phaneuf and Thompson are arguably the two worst players on the team. I guess you just hope the guy has some kind of pride and retires after the season. Although that is less likely because he and his wife live here anyways, could certainly think of worse things than making $7m a year to play hockey in your adopted hometown. I gave Lombardi a lot of grief for his player evals, but I will say he was dead on about making this a place that guys wanted to come and play winning hockey and not just live by the beach.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

with 11 points through 16 games (jesus christ thats bad), to reach 95 points, we would need to go 38-20-8 the rest of the way to sneak into the playoffs

Not gonna happen.

 

[Winger23]

with 11 points through 16 games (jesus christ thats bad), to reach 95 points, we would need to go 38-20-8 the rest of the way to sneak into the playoffs

It's ok though, they just need to look at the positives and they will be fine.....

 

[WHOneedsSOX]

Just a thought, do you think Kovalchuk could convince Panarin to come hear via trade or later on in free agency?

Do you think Ovechkin could convince Kovalchuk to waive his NMC to accept a trade to Washington?

 

[Sol]

It isn't like this is a first for Kopitar. It's not the coach of the system that has Kopitar's ass glued to the half wall, it's Kopitar.

This, after the season Kopitar had last year, the fact he's playing like trash is all on him.

 

[Sol]

The Phaneuf trade is a total disaster, Phaneuf and Thompson are arguably the two worst players on the team. I guess you just hope the guy has some kind of pride and retires after the season. Although that is less likely because he and his wife live here anyways, could certainly think of worse things than making $7m a year to play hockey in your adopted hometown. I gave Lombardi a lot of grief for his player evals, but I will say he was dead on about making this a place that guys wanted to come and play winning hockey and not just live by the beach.

Glad I'm not the only one who thinks Phaneuf has been a train wreck.

 

[Winger23]

Glad I'm not the only one who thinks Phaneuf has been a train wreck.

Sad thing is you can substitute phaneuf for most of the roster and the statement still holds true.

I've already mentioned it but its laughable not to even have an assist yet. Even f***ing Forbort has 2.

 

[deeshamrock]

Do you think Ovechkin could convince Kovalchuk to waive his NMC to accept a trade to Washington?

I think if Luc and Blake have to face the music, and do some key trades to make this team better for the future. And that would be a realistic place to start. Kovy signed with the Kings because of the 3 teams interested, they were the only team to give him what he wanted, 3 yrs at 6.5M per.
He's played well enough for other GM's who have teams that can be considered legit contenders to take notice. Caps would be one, Pens would one as well. Rutherford has stated , as recently as earlier this week, the team needs a change, and more offense. Kovy on Crosby's wing could solve their problem. THey also need help on defense, so a package of 2 players might even work
Habs are playing a lot better this year, might overpay to get him, to keep them in a playoff spot.

And Papa Lou has history with him and Trotz has the Isles playing really well, that would be agood fit

So hopefully Luc and Blake realize what this team is and what they aren't and begin the transition.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

The Phaneuf trade is a total disaster, Phaneuf and Thompson are arguably the two worst players on the team. I guess you just hope the guy has some kind of pride and retires after the season. Although that is less likely because he and his wife live here anyways, could certainly think of worse things than making $7m a year to play hockey in your adopted hometown. I gave Lombardi a lot of grief for his player evals, but I will say he was dead on about making this a place that guys wanted to come and play winning hockey and not just live by the beach.

You forget who we traded him for....

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

The Phaneuf trade is a total disaster, Phaneuf and Thompson are arguably the two worst players on the team. I guess you just hope the guy has some kind of pride and retires after the season. Although that is less likely because he and his wife live here anyways, could certainly think of worse things than making $7m a year to play hockey in your adopted hometown. I gave Lombardi a lot of grief for his player evals, but I will say he was dead on about making this a place that guys wanted to come and play winning hockey and not just live by the beach.

Disagree, first, there is no way to know that Gaborik would be on LTIR at the time of the trade, you can think, you can hope, you can imagine, but you can't know.

Phaneuf is no more than a 5-6 right now, so you have to shelter him and limit his minutes, but if he was getting paid one million, no one would be saying boo....

Thompson has been fine this season, unrealistic expectations vs a team wide scoring funk tends to bring everything out, if anyone expected Thompson to score 20 goals this year, please, speak up. He's a 4th line forward who's good on the penalty kill, good on faceoffs, and decent on the forecheck....anything more than that is a bonus...

 

[KINGS17]

The cap hits of these players no longer matters, because the cap only matters to NHL teams that are contenders.

IF Kings management truly wants to get this ship heading in the right direction they will start trading off any assets they have of value and retaining as much cap hit as necessary of the players they are trading off the roster to acquire draft picks and promising young prospects on ELCs.

The only player I would not retain salary cap on is Doughty, because he doesn't start his 8-year deal until next season.

I am not optimistic about AEG and Robitaille's ability to do critical self evaluation and do the right thing.

 

[KingsFan7824]

Sad thing is you can substitute phaneuf for most of the roster and the statement still holds true.

I've already mentioned it but its laughable not to even have an assist yet. Even ****ing Forbort has 2.

21 players have played at least 15 games with 0 assists at ES. 3 of them are Kings; Thompson, Phaneuf, and Kopitar. Another is a former King, McNabb. There's also Kesler and Pavelski.

 

[Scottkmlps]

Well, watched up until midway through the first power play of the 1st period and that was enough for me. Blow it up Rob, blow it all up.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Sad thing is you can substitute phaneuf for most of the roster and the statement still holds true.

I've already mentioned it but its laughable not to even have an assist yet. Even ****ing Forbort has 2.

Yeah, blaming Phaneuf when you have the big guys struggling is like blaming your window wipers when your car is on fire.

 

[Reaper45]

Opted to skip this one and go out with my wife. Looks like I didnt miss anything, literally. I would've for sure fallen asleep during this one.

 

[ibleedkings]

I’ve been falling asleep every 3rd period and it doesnt look like anything will change soon. I’m getting closer and closer to the blow it up crowd. It’s so soon and early in the season but it’s not looking good. The only thing I’m looking forward to is Gabe Vilardi stepping in and showing us something to look forward to.

 

[damacles1156]

with 11 points through 16 games (jesus christ thats bad), to reach 95 points, we would need to go 38-20-8 the rest of the way to sneak into the playoffs

That's with no Pacific teams going bonkers and not losing down the stretch. Just to have a chance so to speak. Huge hole to climb out of.