Discussion in 'Hockey Fights' started by BruinsBtn, Jan 24, 2011.
Kulemin thinks he can get a free shot at Gleason and then gets wrecked.
and then runs into the boards at the end!!
You could see him take a couple swings and then when Gleason got free you could almost hear him say,"I immediately regret this decision!".
Bam! Right to the moon.
Ouch! Poor Kulemin lol, lucky shot though. Kulemin walked right into it and had his guard down, needs to pay Orr for private lessons in the offseason
What a cheapshot.
Gleason should get him to sign a written contract stating he wants to fight next time.
This was a one punch non fight, the MacArthur-LaRose one was an exciting unexpected fight by non-fighters (I am assuming LaRose doesn't fight after getting his butt kicked)
I love Kulemin, probably my favourite Leaf, but he is not a fighter at all, and should never have got involved with Gleason.
Should have tied him up instead of throwing jabs.
should have dropped his gloves
LaRose doesn't fight. But he did get one, just beautiful, punch on MacArthur. Of course, that was after taking multiple ones and before getting ragdolled, but still, it was something really unexpected from him.
Any reason for it though? I just assumed it was the "payback" from the Grabovski thing.
Macarthur doesn't either
Kulemin lost his virginity during that fight. BAM right in the kisser!
Yeah, that's what was said in the original post I quoted. They weren't sure if LaRose was a fighter, so I cleared that up.
Mess with the bull and ya get the horns Kulie.
Hockeyfights.com has it listed as a fight. A fighting major was given out. Thus, it's a fight.
A fighting major was given to Gleason, NOT Kulemin. That pretty much explains the entire situation.
How did Gleason get a game penalty - for winning a hockey fight???
They squared up and Kulemin was jabbing away ( I must say not very effectively) and so he knew he was in a fight.. wasn't jumped or anything.
Play like this however might get Kulemin thinking about heading back to Russia.
Don't think Kulemin intended to fight him, but he should have known better that when you get into a scuffle/shoving match and you exchange punches with your gloves on you are escalating the circumstances with each shove/glove punch.
A little thing called the NHL rulebook:
46.1 Fighting – A fight shall be deemed to have occurred when at least one player (or goalkeeper) punches or attempts to punch an opponent repeatedly or when two players wrestle in such a manner as to make it difficult for the Linesmen to intervene and separate the combatants.
The Referees are provided very wide latitude in the penalties with which they may impose under this rule. This is done intentionally to enable them to differentiate between the obvious degrees of responsibility of the participants either for starting the fighting or persisting in continuing the fighting. The discretion provided should be exercised realistically.
46.14 Major Penalty – A major penalty shall be imposed on any player who fights.
46.15 Match Penalty - A match penalty shall be assessed to a player who punches an unsuspecting opponent and causes an injury.
Seems pretty obvious the officials saw it the way the rest of the logical world did. One 5 minute major was assessed as officials found only 1 party punched (argue all you like, gloved jabs occur routinely after whistles and don't get 5 minute majors). They also found that the punch caused injury on an unsuspecting opponent.
This was barely a fight and a Boston fan made a thread about it ? Hahah, typical. MacArthur/LaRose was a legit fight.
Some pretty standard Leafs hate going on in this thread.
When Avery "suckerpunched" Smid, there were tons of people calling it a suckerpunch even though Smid had dropped his gloves.
Same thing happens to Kulemin, and every non-Leafs fan says he deserved it.
Yes, Kulemin put himself in a vulnerable situation, but every guy that's been in a fight knows that you gotta make sure the other guy is a willing combatant. The guys who jump the gun (like Jordin Tootoo often did earlier in his career) are criticized for taking advantage of situation where the opponent is unprepared to defend himself.
Yes, Kulemin was squared up. Yes, he had thrown some gloved punches. But, did Gleason know that he was taking advantage of an unprepared opponent when he dropped his gloves and swung? I don't think there is any question that he did.
But, typically, opposing fans are glad to see it, because it's Leafs player that has a broken face.
Not even one fan out there willing to concede that it was at least a little dirty? Big surprise.
Kulemin was coming to the aid of Grabs
Nobody is going to call it dirty because it WASN'T dirty. Kulemin knew exactly what he was doing when he decided to rabbit-punch Gleason in the face three times.
Look at the vid right around :10. Gleason's gloves come off more than a full second before he threw a punch, and during that second he had his head down. How was he supposed to know Kulemin would be stupid/chicken enough to try and abort the mission at that point?
You'd think with all the fighting experience Kulemin has, he would've known better.
Yeah, there's no difference between Avery standing there waiting for the other guy to turn to head back into the play and Gleason dropping them and hammering a guy who has been standing there punching him in the face repeatedly, and is still doing so.
You're actually comparing these two situations in all seriousness. Hilarious.
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