Giroux back to center permanently

[The Madrigal]

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[Jtown]

no shit.

 

[Tripod]

Having C depth is way better than W depth.

Plus, having Couts on another line will help jumpstart other guys like Jake or Lindblom since everyone plays better with him. Oh, and Couts can go against top lines meaning that frees G and Patrick up from harder matchups. Personally, I would like to see:

JVR Giroux Konecny
Weal Couts Voracek
Lindblom Patrick Simmonds
Weise Laughton Raffl

 

[tictactoe]

Having C depth is way better than W depth.

Plus, having Couts on another line will help jumpstart other guys like Jake or Lindblom since everyone plays better with him. Oh, and Couts can go against top lines meaning that frees G and Patrick up from harder matchups. Personally, I would like to see:

JVR Giroux Konecny
Weal Couts Voracek
Lindblom Patrick Simmonds
Weise Laughton Raffl

that left wing is shit...
and you should know by now that Patrick does not play well with Simmonds...
Our only hope is... if Simmonds clicks with Couturier because Patrick with Simmonds and the whole line will be MIA.

 

[backburner]

that left wing is ****...
and you should know by now that Patrick does not play well with Simmonds...
Our only hope is... if Simmonds clicks with Couturier because Patrick with Simmonds and the whole line will be MIA.

trade simmonds for a d

 

[Jtown]

jvr pushing hard to keep that giroux konecny jvr line going.

 

[Lotusflower]

Yes. Please do put one of the best centers of his generation back in the position where he has repeatedly carried this team because, im beginning to think (just a little it now) that Jordan Weal isnt going to cut it.

 

[deadhead]

The problem with Giroux at center is he'll take more wear and tear, you have to balance the value of center depth v his health.
You might do it temporarily, especially if you think you're going to trade for a 3C or Vorobyev might be ready in the spring.
But next year you want to put Frost at center and G back at LW.

 

[Jtown]

Giroux's pk advanced stats are amazing.

 

[Sawdalite]

If Wing extends Giroux's Quality Seasons... and/or Career, I'd rather he returns to Wing and only play Center at selected occasions -- such as injury, Roster Sparking... and/or possibly PostSeason -- and I'd like to see that also with his PK Time.

I believe the Buffalo Game was most likely a temporary bump, and the negative aspects of playing Center on his body would take its toll down the line... And having him as an ace in the hole is a benefit.

So... no thank you... I'll pass on the idea.

 

[Angry Hockey Dad]

My only complaint about G going back to C is that it bumps Nolan Patrick (aka my son) down to the 3rd line.

 

[Adam Warlock]

Ive been on this train for a while. I proposed todays top line months ago.

You can always reunite coots n g for the right match up too. Or atleast a good coach would.

 

[Jtown]

If Wing extends Giroux's Quality Seasons... and/or Career, I'd rather he returns to Wing and only play Center at selected occasions -- such as injury, Roster Sparking... and/or possibly PostSeason -- and I'd like to see that also with his PK Time.

I believe the Buffalo Game was most likely a temporary bump, and the negative aspects of playing Center on his body would take its toll down the line... And having him as an ace in the hole is a benefit.

So... no thank you... I'll pass on the idea.

if he plays wing , i can live with it. He just needs to be centered by a guy who is more talented in the ozone than coots.

 

[deadhead]

You mean the center who had 62 ES points last year, more than say Tavares has ever had?

 

[Jtown]

You mean the center who had 62 ES points last year, more than say Tavares has ever had?

why do you think coots had 62.

 

[Sawdalite]

if he plays wing , i can live with it. He just needs to be centered by a guy who is more talented in the ozone than coots.

The thing is though he does very well with Coots... based on his fantastic last Season with Career Point Totals, as well as his first Quarter of this Season.

 

[deadhead]

why do you think coots had 62.

Because he stayed healthy.
G helped but so did playing 82 games.
Couts had the same advanced metrics last season as the two previous seasons, just played a full season with better forwards.

 

[Jtown]

The thing is though he does very well with Coots... based on his fantastic last Season with Career Point Totals, as well as his first Quarter of this Season.

Claude giroux is not fantastic because of Sean Couturier. Giroux is healthy and physically playing at a level we have not seen him before. Today he was paired with two of our most talented wingers and it was the best we have looked all year, and it was giroux's most dominate game of the season.

It was said on the braodcast today that giroux has chemistry with everyone. Look how many players have played their best hockey when they played giroux. hartnell, raffl, voracek, coots , tk.

If couturier is the talented number 1 center that we need him to be then he will be able to elevate the likes of voracek and other wingers on his line, making us even better.

 

[Jtown]

Because he stayed healthy.
G helped but so did playing 82 games.
Couts had the same advanced metrics last season as the two previous seasons, just played a full season with better forwards.

G " helped" . Lol.

 

[Sawdalite]

why do you think coots had 62.

Is Giroux's 102 points the Chicken and Coots 62 Points the Egg... or the other was around?

 

[Jtown]

Is Giroux's 102 points the Chicken and Coots 62 Points the Egg... or the other was around?

both contributed to the success. Giroux is going to be able to produce regardless of who he plays with. You can't say that about couturier.

 

[Sawdalite]

Claude giroux is not fantastic because of Sean Couturier. Giroux is healthy and physically playing at a level we have not seen him before. Today he was paired with two of our most talented wingers and it was the best we have looked all year, and it was giroux's most dominate game of the season.

It was said on the braodcast today that giroux has chemistry with everyone. Look how many players have played their best hockey when they played giroux. hartnell, raffl, voracek, coots , tk.

If couturier is the talented number 1 center that we need him to be then he will be able to elevate the likes of voracek and other wingers on his line, making us even better.

It has been noted often here that Coots makes his wingers better also.

Thing is though that this one Game is an extremely small albeit successful Sample Size... Keep in mind that lines are shuffled during the Season and with Giroux Hak does have greater flexibility with G as a Wing who can be spotted at Center as required... while saving wear and tear at Wing mostly... as well as the Defensive benefits of Coots at Center with Giroux as his winger.

It doesn't have to be all or nothing on this... with either way.

 

[Jtown]

It has been noted often here that Coots makes his wingers better also.

Thing is though that this one Game is an extremely small albeit successful Sample Size... Keep in mind that lines are shuffled during the Season and with Giroux Hak does have greater flexibility with G as a Wing who can be spotted at Center as required... while saving wear and tear at Wing mostly... as well as the Defensive benefits of Coots at Center with Giroux as his winger.

It doesn't have to be all or nothing on this... with either way.

I think Couturier is the ultimate center for talented offensive wingers that struggle in their own end. Coots would be that perfect center for Ovi, Yakupov, and gaudreau.. Coots makes his wingers better in a lot of ways..

 

[Sawdalite]

both contributed to the success. Giroux is going to be able to produce regardless of who he plays with. You can't say that about couturier.

Coots did have his Career Points Season with G as his Wing... but G had his Career Points Season at Wing with Coots centering... And it was a bounceback one that dwarfed his best prior ones.

I'd say that Giroux can be better on his own... but IMO Coots ups his wingers Games more than G does from Center... although he is certainly no slouch. Giroux definitely has the greater upside in any given Season

I believe that both help each other and have great chemistry... and together their individual Totals are greater than devided.

But I still say that G making Coots better or Coots making G irox better is a situation of which came first, the Chicken or the Egg -- the egg from the chicken and the chicken from the Egg -- situation... There is no answer.

I suppose though Coots benefits more than G does from the matching... but G certainly reaches greater levels with Coots centering him.

This is a great problem to have, eh? Haha

 

[Jtown]

Coots did have his Career Points Season with G as his Wing... but G had his Career Points Season at Wing with Coots centering... And it was a bounceback one that dwarfed his beast prior ones.

I'd say that Giroux can be better on his own... but IMO Coots ups his wingers Games more than G does from Center... although he is certainly no slouch. Giroux definitely has the greater upside in any given Season

I believe that both help each other and have great chemistry... and together their individual Totals are greater than devided.

But I still say that G making Coots better or Coots making G irox better is a situation of which came first, the Chicken or the Egg -- the egg from the chicken and the chicken from the Egg -- situation... There is no answer.

I suppose though Coots benefits more than G does from the matching... but G certainly reaches greater levels with Coots centering him.

This is a great problem to have, eh? Haha

Giroux's corsi stayed relatively the same last year in line with career marks. But his xgf was at an all time high. You can probably attribute that to tk and pdo. THis year he is on a higher pace with less impressive fancy stats.