Proposal: Getting a number 1 center.

Simple proposal for two struggling teams. Calgary will never be a serious contender without a number 1 center. Discuss?

Sean Monahan and Matt Tkachuk
For
Jack Eichel

 

Hmm, interesting offer. A low end 1c/ high end 2c and a young winger i absolutely LOVE. That's interesting. However, if I'm Buffalo I'd be looking for more. They may get less "sure things" but I think they could get even more value back in a trade for Jack.

Neither of those players are elite of franchise lvl so getting 4 or 5 assets instead of just 2 would probably be better for the Sabres.

 

No from Buffalo.

 

It's a tough trade situation because usually you have to draft a number 1 center not common to see them traded.....Eichel isn't going anywhere unless he forces their hand...

 

Actually a pretty decent proposal. Better than about 95% of the usual offers.

Like phlocky said, I think Buffalo would ask for a bit more though.

 

If you go by Toronto's example you need to draft one. Even in free agency Toronto landed Tavares (11 M), and he is forming into a 2C.

Nashville traded Jones for Johansen thinking that they got their 1C. I don't know if it worked out quite so well for Nashville.

This proposal will likely not get you your wish for a 1C. If you want to re-build they could get you decent draft picks.

 

I'd prefer Monahan and Matt over Eichel

 

Buffalo won't get offered a better offer than a 70 point winger and a 60 point C.

But hey, if they want prospects that "could" become these instead, go for prospects.

But really, they should be doing everything in their power to keep JE happy by building around him. It just looks like that is failing.

 

Hmm I kinda like it for Buffalo, seems close enough in value

 

Jack is one of the premier centres in the league, very young and barely realized his true potential.

No way I’d do this trade if I were in Buffalo’s position.

 

It does seem like a good starting offer but as said, people don't trade these guys and seldom let them become FA's. You might get lucky and someone demands a trade but you can't bank on that.

I'd watch the Eichel and Barkov situations closely while focusing on drafting one.

 

Personally, if Buffalo moved Eichel this is a package I think they should consider. They get a replacement so their centers are complete ass, and get another top 6 player out of it. This guy has attitude and loves to win and would be a big add. Try and retool the roster into being more like the Islanders than the Oilers, Leafs, Tampa, Avs, etc of the league. They already have Dahlin and a decent group of D. Put the right system in, they have good enough forwards to score a few goals a game. Could really improve their club.

 

Honestly, Eichel is good, but Monahan and Chucky? That's like a tough one, if they want more I'm not interested at all, but if its 2 for 1, im intrigued... if they want more lesser pieces of picks/prospects rather than players who have proven themselves, then thats on them

 

If I am Calgary, I wouldn’t do it. That is a huge offer.

Is JE on Matthew’s level or a tier below. He clearly isn’t carrying his team, al la McDavid. Doesn’t have the depth that Matthew’s has. I don’t know.

And his team hasn’t won anything more the the draft lottery. They don’t seem to be improving.

 

Seems like an overpayment for Eichel. If this were to go through, Calgary loses about 130 points and gains about 90-100 in Eichel? That’s taking a step backward. If anything, Buffalo would be looking for Monahan + Andersson, but I know Andersson is held in high regard in Calgary so probably a no from them.

 

Buffalo shouldn't trade Eichel, but if they did I doubt anyone beats that offer.

 

45+ goals and 80-90 assists for 25-35 goals and 50+ assists?

Why is Calgary doing that?

Do they have someone ready to step up and offset the serious loss of production??

 

1C and 1D are rarely ever traded without one of the other not coming back. Buffalo should not do this

 

Thank you for a legit offer that doesn't produce a laugh track. I don't think it would be my first choice if Sabre fan but if Eichel caused that much of a stink and had to go n offseason it wouldn't be a wt* did Buffalo just do.

 

A really good proposal for both teams.

 

I think Calgary definitely makes a pitch built around Monahan or Gaudreau. I think they would even make a proposal with both of them before they include Tkachuk.

 

2 extremely good players Beats 1 great player. Calgary says no

 

I think Monahan isn't very exciting as a return but could see him and Tkachuk being the basis of a more team oriented, pack mentality version of the Sabres.

 

That’s the whole issue with trading a number of roster players for one player in return. I’m not a fan of the Flames and don’t know what their prospect pool is like, but the only way a trade makes sense for both teams is if both teams somehow gain (obviously). Giving up Monahan + blue chip prospect and picks might be enough to at least get their attention without completely gutting the Flames roster.

 

In terms of value, this is very close, but how good will Monahan be when Skinner or Olofsson plays on his wing instead of Gaudreau? Also, he probably does not quite suit our age and term, although...