Recalled/Assigned: Get Out Your Parkas... There's a Frost Warning (Morgan Frost Recalled 11/18)

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    Or having Michael Raffl in the top 6.
     
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    I would like to see that. Get a shooter on that Hayes line. Let Hayes get distribute and JVR bang away in front.
     
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    Thread title reminds me of the radio DJ from Groundhog Day.

    "Don't forget your booties because it's coooold out there!"
     
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    Of course there’s been some luck involved - hockey has the highest incidence of randomness of any of the major sports. Players go on hot and cold streaks, even if nothing really substantial changes in the way they play.

    So having said that, I see Provorov having some good luck where things are going well offensively for him, and it probably does help him play with more mojo. That blast the other night wasn’t luck, but maybe because of the payoff he’s been getting lately, he’s shooting with more confidence. That’s a positive for the team.

    I’d love to have Ghost firing on all cylinders too. That would be awesome for Ghost and the team. When he’s on, he’s mesmerizing. One of my favourite players to watch. In the end, though, I don’t see how removing Provorov, who is having good luck and is the best PP producer at this point, is a wise move. He will definitely have stretches where the puck luck doesn’t go his way, and then it makes sense to try to shake things up.

    You mention wanting what’s best for the team, and it seems, to me at least, that benefitting from Provy’s production while he’s hot is a good thing for the team. It sounds like you see it differently. Ain’t nothing wrong with that.

    We all want the same thing. A Stanley Cup. It sickens me that a post popped on my twitter feed today that said “3x SC champion New Jersey Devils.”

    What kind of bizarro world do we live in? If they get the #1 overall again this year, I’m gonna lose it lol.
     
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    I think Fletcher has a real strategy behind these decisions.

    Farabee was held back until after the "Death March" road trip to start the season. I think if they start at home, he starts the season with the big team, those post shots had nothing to do with that decision.

    Bunnaman, Twarynski, Vorobyev, and Rubtsov got bottom six cameos, all have NHL bodies, and the role was an "energy role," which doesn't require great hockey instincts. So Fletcher kept rotating these guys, hoping one would take a job. When they failed, Stewart got a tryout and Andreoff got recalled. I think you'll see these guys get more shots this spring and next fall, Fletcher wants low cost options in the bottom six. And if Sushko shows he's ready, he'll join the prospect go round.

    Frost was kept down due to Patrick's injury, had Patrick been healthy, Frost would probably have been moved to LW for a couple years and gradually worked his way into a center role (and Hayes to RW). With Patrick out, suddenly they had to groom Frost as a 3C, which is a demanding position in AV's system. So the 16 games in the AHL to work on his game before he was recalled - Fletcher could have stayed pat for two games then plug Laughton in at 3C this weekend.
     
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    Just to clarify, I don’t mean “luck” as if everything is working for him or everything he touches turns to gold. I mean that he’s been very fortunate to have been the one picked to be on those PP units at the right time and benefit from the play of the forwards. So I think that if you place a better PP player in those positions theyd likely have done better.

    Kinda like if a we put Raffl on the Couturier line he’d probably produce because of it... but instead having Lindblom there gives you a better chance of taking advantage of more opportunities and scoring even more.

    Yeah, of course whole point is making the team better. That’s all I want and why I’ve been harping on these various changes for so long. I’m completely convinced that having Ghost and Sanheim as the PP defensemen maximizes their chances of scoring... so that’s what I want. If you think Provorov gives them a better chance right now then I obviously disagree, but we can happily agree to disagree. On top of that, I think it would benefit Provorov and the team if we can find a way to lower his already crazy icetime totals, so this is a perfect way to do that.

    And yeah, I’m already mentally prepared for a team I hate to win the lottery. No other option exists. We have to survive off finding stars outside of lottery picks and these clowns get 1st overalls gifted to them. Like I said in the Eagles thread, being a sports fan is just testing how many times you can get kicked in the balls and keep coming back for more... especially for us. :laugh:
     
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    I was one of those weirdos hesitant in calling up Frost right now. Bringing him up to play alongside JVR and Jake was a set up for failure imo. Seeing him being with G and TK gives me the opposite feeling.
     
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    Damn it we're running out of people to be pissed off that they aren't bringing up
     
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    Not me. And I'll squeeze your belly.
     
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    If I was Frost and they told me I would have to start my NHL career playing on a sheltered scoring line with JVR and Voracek, I would have refused to report and demanded a trade.
     
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    If they keep g—frost—konecny, that line had the potential to be a terror in transition. Speed and creativity, three on twos could be absolutely sweet to watch.
     
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    Of course, it could also be a disaster if a physical checking line makes them into road kill and dominates puck possession with them on the ice.

    "Smart" moves can only be identified with hindsight, moves with potential to work out can be suggested before the fact.

    One thing I like about AV/Fletcher is they're willing to give players a shot, whether it's to see if someone like Stewart can get his legs back or if someone like Vorobyev is NHL ready - the same principle - don't jump to conclusions and write a player off until you give them a few games.

    And while a lot of players had "failing grades," they'll give players second shots, Pitlick struggled out of the box, got benched for bad play, seems to have his game legs back and is now playing a lot better. Andreoff got sent down to the AHL, worked his way back and has been a solid contributor.

    Frost may be ready and pull off a "Giroux," he may struggle like Farabee, doing enough to justify his roster spot but not enough to move the needle, or show that he's overmatched right now like Rubtsov and go back to the AHL after a few games.

    You simply don't know until he hits the ice.
     
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    I just hear a buzzing.

    Seriously, I said it has the potential. That entails that I realize that potential may not be reached.
     
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    I get the strong feeling youre better off talking to your empty beer can.
     
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    I get a strong feeling that some here have talked to too many beer cans.
     
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    The two are not mutually exclusive.
     
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    Nick Cage's best line in Con Air.

    "Put the Bunny back in the box."

    Put the Bunnaman back in the A.
     
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    not sure if this has been posted but Here it is... could this be?:
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    The Couturier line is the 1st line and the Giroux line might be either 1B or 2.
     
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    At this point nobody is in the AHL who has to be in the NHL, so we're good there.

    But I'd definitely feel better about Stewart and Hagg being sent to the AHL. :laugh:
     
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    Even Laberge got called up.




    To the Phantoms.
     
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    It's perfectly fine to talk to your beer can.

    But when it starts talking back ...
     

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