German Prospects in Europe

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  1. Maverick41

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    PosNameTeamLeagueGPGAPtsPIM+/-SOGB-DayHeightWeight
    DMoritz SeiderAdler MannheimDEL131010-21006.04.20016' 4"183 lbs
    DLeon HüttlLöwen FrankfurtDEL 215123631421.09.20005' 10"157 lbs
    CFabjon KuqiSC Bietigheim-BissingenDEL 2500000008.03.20016' 1"172 lbs
    CLuca TostoTölzer LöwenDEL 2100002-1318.11.20005' 8"146 lbs
    FEnrico Henriquez-MoralesStarbulls RosenheimOberliga Süd1100060015.07.20015' 8"165 lbs
    CFilip VarejckaEC Salzburg IIAlps HL112304009.01.20015' 11"183 lbs
    LDYegor AlanovVäxjö Laker HC U20SuperElit141456-11916.12.20005' 11"176 lbs
    LWJan-Luca SchumacherJungadler MannheimDNL U20 I1561723360030.08.20015' 10"163 lbs
    LWPatriks MarcinkevicsKölner JunghaieDNL U20 I1510112140006.05.20015' 9"159 lbs
    RWNino KinderEisbären Juniors BerlinDNL U20 I178122080022.02.20015' 12"163 lbs
    DMario ZimmermannEV LandshutDNL U20 I1641317140026.04.20015' 7"132 lbs
    COliver NoackEisbären Juniors BerlinDNL U20 I121061620022.10.20005' 10"157 lbs
    LDSimon GnypKölner JunghaieDNL U20 I155111640010.09.20015' 11"201 lbs
    FElias LindnerEV LandshutDNL U20 I167815120006.04.20016' 1"176 lbs
    CJan-Luca SennhennKölner JunghaieDNL U20 I154111540011.11.20005' 9"135 lbs
    LDPhilipp PretoJungadler MannheimDNL U20 I162121440002.04.20016' 1"172 lbs
    FJan NijenhuisJungadler MannheimDNL U20 I10481220004.08.20015' 11"165 lbs
    CLuca TostoEC Bad TölzDNL U20 I9831160018.11.20005' 8"146 lbs
    LWJulian ChrobotKölner JunghaieDNL U20 I14448120007.03.20015' 10"168 lbs
    FSebastian StanikEV LandshutDNL U20 I16257180014.11.20015' 7"139 lbs
    RWGeorgiy SaakyanESC DresdenDNL U20 II1510152580019.10.20005' 9"187 lbs
    RWMaik RausendorfESC DresdenDNL U20 II163111440031.01.20015' 5"132 lbs
    CEnrico Henriquez-MoralesStarbulls RosenheimDNL U20 II85813160015.07.20015' 8"165 lbs
    CFabjon KuqiSC Bietigheim-BissingenDNL U20 III5268160008.03.20016' 1"172 lbs
    CFilip VarejckaRed Bull Hockey AkademieCzech U191581220183009.01.20015' 11"183 lbs
    FMoritz TschierschSPG Salzburg/Zell am See U20EBYSL1661117242011.01.20015' 9"181 lbs
    FWilly RudertHermes U18Jr.B Mestis Q1613720100023.08.20015' 10"170 lbs
    FTim LutzHC Davos U20Elite Jr. A12224300027.09.20005' 11"165 lbs
     
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    CTim StützleJungadler MannheimDNL U20 I16152641280015.01.20025' 9"159 lbs
    CFlorian EliasJungadler MannheimDNL U20 I169101980007.08.20025' 7"159 lbs
    CFabian HerrmannEV RegensburgDNL U20 I1631518160012.02.20025' 9"150 lbs
    LWLukas ReichelEisbären Juniors BerlinDNL U20 I164111520017.05.20025' 9"143 lbs
    RDFabrizio PiluJungadler MannheimDNL U20 I914580031.10.20025' 11"150 lbs
    RDJoshua GeußKölner JunghaieDNL U20 I1505520022.07.20025' 9"137 lbs
    FOleg TschwanowEisbären Juniors BerlinDNL U20 I8213100012.10.20025' 7"143 lbs
    RWDominik ZbaranskiJungadler MannheimDNL U20 I403300010.05.20025' 9"148 lbs
    FDaniel VisnerEisbären Juniors BerlinDNL U20 I101100007.03.20025' 5"115 lbs
    RDArkadiusz DziamborJungadler MannheimDNL U20 I13011290031.01.20026' 1"163 lbs
    DSimon StowasserJungadler MannheimDNL U20 I100000018.01.20025' 11"143 lbs
    RWJussi PetersenKölner JunghaieDNL U20 I200000003.07.20025' 9"137 lbs
    DMaximilian GlötzlKölner JunghaieDNL U20 I200000016.03.20026' 0"187 lbs
    CJustin VolekESV KaufbeurenDNL U20 II14121931160008.02.20025' 9"143 lbs
    FJohn-Jason PeterkaRed Bull Hockey AkademieCzech U19172023432616014.01.20025' 9"170 lbs
    FJosef EhamRed Bull Hockey AkademieCzech U1916129211013029.07.20025' 10"150 lbs
    RDMaksymilian SzuberRed Bull Hockey AkademieCzech U19150224-4025.08.20026' 2"161 lbs
    FMaximilian MillerESV KaufbeurenDEB U17 I1181321120021.04.20025' 7"132 lbs
    FLars StelzmannStarbulls RosenheimDEB U17 I1113518100013.02.20025' 11"141 lbs
    FQuirin SpiesStarbulls RosenheimDEB U17 I94121620031.05.20025' 4"139 lbs
    RWJussi PetersenKölner JunghaieDEB U17 I10941320003.07.20025' 9"137 lbs
    FDaniel VisnerEisbären Juniors BerlinDEB U17 I8561140007.03.20025' 5"115 lbs
    DSimon StowasserJungadler MannheimDEB U17 I12371020018.01.20025' 11"143 lbs
    DMaximilian GlötzlKölner JunghaieDEB U17 I8246140016.03.20026' 0"187 lbs
    FDominik ZbaranskiJungadler MannheimDEB U17 I1032560010.05.20025' 9"148 lbs
    DFabrizio PiluJungadler MannheimDEB U17 I623540031.10.20025' 11"150 lbs
    FOleg TschwanowEisbären Juniors BerlinDEB U17 I2314120012.10.20025' 7"143 lbs
    FDaniel NeumannEHC Basel U17Top Novizen87101700022.02.20020' 0"0 lbs
    FMarat KhaydarovEHC Basel U17Top Novizen8851360007.05.20020' 0"0 lbs
     
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    FConnor KorteHC Davos U17Elite Novizen5011120031.01.20030' 0"0 lbs
    FNikolaus HeiglEC Bad TölzDEB U17 I871320180020.01.20035' 8"150 lbs
    FJulian ElsbergerEV LandshutDEB U17 I10751220007.08.20035' 6"137 lbs
    FKonstantin BongersDüsseldorfer EGDEB U17 I125712300001.03.20035' 9"148 lbs
    FKevin NiedenzDüsseldorfer EGDEB U17 I12391240002.04.20030' 0"0 lbs
    LWPascal SteckKölner JunghaieDEB U17 I10461040008.07.20035' 10"143 lbs
    FLeon SteinbergerEisbären Juniors BerlinDEB U17 I113710120013.08.20030' 0"0 lbs
    FLuigi CalceJungadler MannheimDEB U17 I1172940030.12.20035' 5"130 lbs
    FValentino WeißgerberKrefelder EVDEB U17 I863900031.10.20036' 0"161 lbs
    CRobin Van CalsterKölner JunghaieDEB U17 I9459120018.03.20035' 10"168 lbs
    DMaxim RauschDüsseldorfer EGDEB U17 I12369180019.02.20035' 7"119 lbs
    FPhilip HechtJungadler MannheimDEB U17 I935840014.05.20036' 4"174 lbs
    DMichael GottwaldStarbulls RosenheimDEB U17 I943760014.01.20035' 8"148 lbs
    DJona DannöhlDüsseldorfer EGDEB U17 I1043740018.02.20035' 4"108 lbs
    FAlex KasprzikJungadler MannheimDEB U17 I1231460023.02.20035' 10"157 lbs
    RWBenjamin ForsbachKölner JunghaieDEB U17 I822440008.02.20035' 7"121 lbs
    FMoritz SerikowEV LandshutDEB U17 I10134260030.04.20035' 8"137 lbs
    FThomas HeiglEC Bad TölzDEB U17 I204400020.01.20035' 9"161 lbs
    FTim GorgenländerJungadler MannheimDEB U17 I921340025.06.20035' 9"165 lbs
    FBennet RoßmyBili Tygri Liberec U16Czech U16129615107001.08.20030' 0"0 lbs
    LDHaakon HäneltEC Salzburg U18EBJL971926219001.06.20035' 8"126 lbs
    FPhilip FeistEC Salzburg U18EBJL125611165004.08.20035' 9"132 lbs
    FSten FischerEC Salzburg U18EBJL1238111016025.01.20035' 10"137 lbs
    FSebastian CimmermanEC Salzburg U18EBJL85494211014.02.20035' 7"132 lbs
    DMarius WinkelmannEC Salzburg U18EBJL10279220003.05.20036' 0"146 lbs
     
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    LWAlex CiernikFlemingsbergs IK U16U16 Div.1512340008.10.20040' 0"0 lbs
    FMoritz EliasJungadler MannheimDEB U17 I121192020010.03.20045' 7"141 lbs
    FLuca HaufKrefelder EVDEB U17 I844840011.01.20045' 5"132 lbs
    DJesse KauhanenSchwenninger ERCDEB U17 I1233620009.03.20040' 0"0 lbs
    FJan CimmermanIserlohner ECDEB U17 I623540003.11.20040' 0"0 lbs
    FMarino BrlicSchwenninger ERCDEB U17 I1114540011.03.20040' 0"0 lbs
    FMaxim AntonDüsseldorfer EGDEB U17 I313400019.04.20040' 0"0 lbs
    FVasilii PanovJungadler MannheimDEB U17 I1012300026.04.20045' 7"128 lbs
    FPhilip ZiescheEisbären Juniors BerlinDEB U17 I511200018.11.20040' 0"0 lbs
    FMatthias PischoffDüsseldorfer EGDEB U17 I202200002.08.20040' 0"0 lbs
    FVeit OswaldEV LandshutDEB U17 I702200031.08.20040' 0"0 lbs
    DOle KrügerEV LandshutDEB U17 I8022100019.10.20040' 0"0 lbs
    FCarl KonzeIserlohner ECDEB U17 I310120008.03.20045' 6"121 lbs
    LDVincent GrunewaldKölner JunghaieDEB U17 I301100009.05.20045' 3"99 lbs
    FRoman KechterEHC 80 NürnbergDEB U17 II1012142620016.02.20045' 6"150 lbs
    FDimitrii TretiakovRT Bad NauheimDEB U17 II108101840020.03.20040' 0"0 lbs
    FJulian LutzEC Salzburg U18EBJL899181421029.02.20045' 3"97 lbs
     
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    DAlexander VladelchtchikovKölner JunghaieU15 NRW Regionalliga A421302005
    DAlexander VladelchtchikovKölner JunghaieU15 NRW Regionalliga B1111202005
    FNoah MünzenbergerKölner JunghaieU15 NRW Regionalliga A311222005
    FMarco MünzenbergerKölner JunghaieU15 NRW Regionalliga B1110102005
    FNoah MünzenbergerKölner JunghaieU15 NRW Regionalliga B1101122005
    FMarco MünzenbergerKölner JunghaieU15 NRW Regionalliga A301142005
    FAleksej AbramovEisbären Juniors BlauU13 ODM LK I49112042006
    FLaurin Farell LindnerESC DresdenU13 ODM LK I511516182006
    FRichard MüllerESC DresdenU13 ODM LK I5971662006
    FPascal GolzEisbären Juniors BlauU13 ODM LK I4951402006
    DNick BernhardtESC DresdenU13 ODM LK I5841282006
    FKevin FeldhusEisbären Juniors BlauU13 ODM LK I2551022006
    FJustus FrischESC DresdenU13 ODM LK I3461082006
    FMoritz HabeckKrefelder EVU13 NRW Regionalliga A445942006
    FNikita ZimmermannKrefelder EVU13 NRW Regionalliga A471842006
    FKarl Philipp PohleEisbären Juniors GrauU13 ODM LK I4771422007
    FArne Norwin HedwigESC DresdenU13 ODM LK I45611182007
    FMarc BlankEisbären Juniors GrauU13 ODM LK I4641002007
    FNiklas LehrEisbären Juniors BlauU13 ODM LK I481962007
    FAwrelij FomenkoESC DresdenU13 ODM LK I242622007
    DMaximilian WredeDüsseldorfer EGU13 NRW Regionalliga A402202007
    FAdel AkhmadeevDüsseldorfer EGU13 NRW Regionalliga A41021202008
    FTobias KrestanRT Bad NauheimU13 NRW Regionalliga B2819122008
    FTobias KrestanRT Bad NauheimU13 Hessenliga172902008
    FAdel AkhmadeevDüsseldorfer EG 1bU13 NRW Regionalliga B372902008
    FNikita BlochKrefelder EV 1bU13 NRW Regionalliga B321322009
     
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    PosNameTeamLeagueGPGAPtsPIM+/-SOGB-DayHeightWeight
    RW/LWDominik BokkVäxjö LakersSHL8123001003.02.20006' 1"181 lbs
    CLean BergmannIserlohn RoostersDEL1032532-51804.10.19986' 1"201 lbs
    CTim WohlgemuthERC IngolstadtDEL1111200422.07.19995' 11"172 lbs
    FMarco SternheimerAugsburger EVDEL1102223314.08.19985' 12"170 lbs
    FMick KöhlerKölner HaieDEL20000-1023.02.19986' 3"201 lbs
    CCharlie JahnkeEisbären BerlinDEL300000114.02.19985' 10"170 lbs
    DMaximilian AdamEisbären BerlinDEL400002222.02.19985' 10"170 lbs
    DJohannes HußDüsseldorfer EGDEL600001009.08.19986' 0"179 lbs
    CMax KislingerThomas Sabo Ice TigersDEL90002-1211.02.19986' 2"203 lbs
    CCharlie JahnkeLausitzer FüchseDEL 28358251114.02.19985' 10"170 lbs
    FTim BrunnhuberRavensburg TowerstarsDEL 29268041519.01.19995' 12"199 lbs
    DMaximilian AdamLausitzer FüchseDEL 274371441722.02.19985' 10"170 lbs
    FChristoph KiefersauerDeggendorfer SCDEL 29246211409.01.19986' 0"179 lbs
    RWVincent HesslerLausitzer FüchseDEL 29246241220.03.19986' 1"207 lbs
    LWMike FischerLöwen FrankfurtDEL 211235221223.08.19995' 10"174 lbs
    CMaximilian EisenmengerLöwen FrankfurtDEL 211224611721.08.19986' 3"190 lbs
    FLuca GläserBayreuth TigersDEL 21012312-41313.08.19986' 1"185 lbs
    FMarvin RatmannRT Bad NauheimDEL 21112340513.10.19986' 1"161 lbs
    FMarkus LillichESV KaufbeurenDEL 21020202426.07.19995' 9"165 lbs
    FPierre PretoHeilbronner FalkenDEL 2102022-11013.04.19996' 1"183 lbs
    LWThomas ReichelLausitzer FüchseDEL 2811222321.04.19996' 3"194 lbs
    DNicklas MannesRT Bad NauheimDEL 291122-3602.07.19986' 1"192 lbs
    DTobias MöllerHeilbronner FalkenDEL 250226-1427.07.20006' 0"176 lbs
    FCedric SchiemenzLausitzer FüchseDEL 2110228-51801.03.19995' 11"163 lbs
    DJohannes HußRT Bad NauheimDEL 2310120509.08.19986' 1"192 lbs
    FMick KöhlerLöwen FrankfurtDEL 2710100323.02.19986' 3"201 lbs
    FMagnus EisenmengerLöwen FrankfurtDEL 21110121506.04.20006' 1"174 lbs
    FTobias EderSC RiesserseeOberliga Süd645960004.03.19985' 12"183 lbs
    RWJustin SchützEC Salzburg IIAlps HL615603024.06.20005' 11"176 lbs
    RDDaniel WirtEC Salzburg IIAlps HL90222-3013.04.20006' 1"176 lbs
     
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    It is a very impressive piece of work you have done here Maverick. Are the players listed in random order or by level of talent?

    Could you tell me those you believe stand the best chance of getting drafted in 2013. I suppose it is seldom that a player has been drafted directly out of a German junior league, and that it is mandatory that they have some adult hockey experience (not neccecary in the DEL but at least in the 2.BL).

    Are Leon Draisaitl and Dominik Kahun the best talents from 1995 playing outside Germany?
     
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    Thanks.

    I have listed the players alphabetically, and I am just following their stats, and rarely if ever actually see them play.

    I have seen some of the late '94 and '95, though, and Kahun and Draisaitl are pretty much in a league of their own. Especially Draisaitl since he is not even draft eligible in 2013 because of his late birthday.
    However there are some 1995 born players in Germany who are quite talented.
    Tim Bender on defense and forwards Kevin Orendorz and Markus Eisenschmid are among my favourite German prospects for this draft. But their chances are rather slim compared to guys like Kahun or Frederik Tiffels, who is playing in the USHL.

    It is true that most (maybe even all) players that are drafted out of Germany had already played in men's league.
     
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    Maximilian Glässl will be playing for my hometown team HIFK (junior B) this upcoming season. It's going to be a talented team for sure and Glässl is going to help on the blueline, since HIFK has lost two top four defenseman from last years Junior C team. Also there will ne only three defenseman back from the junior b team, only one being a regular.
     
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    @Sparta2009:
    Thank you very much for the update on Glässl. It is good to hear, that he seems to be developing nicely and that he will be staying in Finland.

    As far as this thread goes, I have decided to focus on fewer players, so that hopefully I will be able to keep it updated regularly.
    I will update it today with the end of season stats for those players I will focus on for next season.
     
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    The new DNL season is starting this weekend which means I have started updating this thread again.

    And I have added some information on Non-German players in the DNL.
     
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    I decided to add another category, with players who played in North America (Junior or Pro) and returned to Germany and young players who could potentially play internationally for Germany in the future.

    I will update this thread once or twice every month, because my time does not allow more than that at the moment.

    The Next update will come around 2013-10-07.
     
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    Impressive work Maverik.

    Let's hope some of them make it into the draft.

    There seem to be a few that are crushing the Schüler-BL again, are they compareble in terms of talent level than previous players that did so (Kahun, Rieder, Draisaitl,...). Of course Draisaitl is in his own world, but for compared tothe rest..

    THe guys I am refering to are:
    Tobias Eder
    Christoph Kiefersauer
    Neal Samanski
    Rico Rossi
    Pascal Grosse

    And for the DNL:
    Ilya Sharipov
    Jakob Mayenschein
     
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    Yannik Valenti seems to be off to an amazing start. 15 points in 4 games, as a late 2000, outscoring even players born in early 1998. Obviously far too early in the season, and at that age far too early in the career to make anything out of it, but it's very impressive nontheless.

    On a minor note, Ralf Rinke (on the potential national team players list) is currently playing for Hamburg in the DEL, not Bremerhaven. He might return to Bremerhaven once everyone is healthy, but right now he should get the majority of the games with Hamburg.
     
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    Of course with the different groups in the Schüler BL the stats are a bit skewed for many of the players especially early on. There is a team in "Süd Gruppe B" (TEV Miesbach) that has given up 103 goals in 6 games while only scoring 4 goals themselves. So obviously the stats of their opponents' players might be a bit inflated.

    I know that about Rinke, but I hadn't got around to including his DEL stats, yet.
    I am currently working on that.
    But I appreciate the info. Please let me know if I forget anything else.

    Also if anyone would like certain players added to my lists please let me know.
    Personally I am really intrigued by Eisbären goalie Benjamin Beck. The kid is 14 and as tall as I am (6'4'').
    I wonder how he will develop.

    I'll keep working on this thread and it should be completely updated with this weekends games on Monday afternoon.
     
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    i have the pleasure the watch yannik in every home game. and i can tell you, it's a pleasure. :nod:
     
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    I have completed the update. Hopefully without too many mistakes.

    I will probably do the next update sometime around the end of October or the start of November.
     
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    I don't think any of these kids are really gonna come close to Draisaitl, Kahun or Rieder (statistically). What these 3 did at that level will probably not be repeated by anyone anytime soon.

    Since I have not seen them play, I cannot comment on their skills or talent.
    But I believe that Tobias Eder is the most promising of the lot. But this is just a hunch based on past numbers both in league play and international play. So don't put too much stock in it. ;)

    Eder comes from an interesting family, as far as hockey is concerned. His brother Andreas is playing in the WHL, and his cousin and teammate Michael Grabmaier seems also to be a rather talented young player.
     
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    *Helped Maverick41 with the CHL since I'm in Canada, I used his coding to do the table, so he takes all the credit for this thread.
     
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    Is Draisaitl still projected to go early in the first round?
     
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    Yes, I think I have seen him ranked anywhere between 4th overall and 15th overall.
     
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    Any chances of having Alexandre Sills playing for the Germany National Team?
    Draisatl scored 2 more points in his last game..looks like it will be the needed seconds great year to increase the chances for an early draft.

    But the other Germans like Sedlar, Eder, Kammerer, Eisenschmid seem to have problems. I expected more from them...concerning the stats. I can't say anything about their way of playing.
     
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    Honestly, I think he would rather play with team Canada since he played pretty much his whole hockey in Québec.

    Don't be too fast on judging Sedlar, Eder, Kammerer and Eisenschmid by their points production. They were all playing in the DNL last year and it's hard for most European to adjust their style to the North-American system/ice. I've seen them play and they actually look better than their stats show, I believe the stats will get better by the end of October/November.
     
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