Discussion in 'Germany' started by Maverick41, Nov 19, 2012.
Not a prospect for the draft but I was wondering if anyone on here could tell me about Lean Bergmann. The sharks signed him a few months back and he seems to have really good numbers in the DEL.
He has a good shot ,some speed and don't avoid hard battles.He had a good education in Sweden . He has the potential to become a solid NHL player.
It is always interesting to see which prospects from other teams Mannheim has added to their roster since they are best development program in Germany.
So far the list includes (there are probably more among younger players):
F - Noah Dunham (2002) from Regensburg
F - Yannick Proske (2003) from Dresden
D - Maxim Rausch (2003) from Düsseldorf
F - Lukas Ribarik (2001) from Nürnberg
G - Arno Tiefensee (2002) from Bad Tölz
F - Oleg Tschwanow (2002) from Berlin
F - Roman Zap (2003) from Salzburg
Regensburg added Roman Kechter from Nuremberg
Kechter had a pretty good weekend. In two games, Friday (Loss) and Saturday (Win), Regensburg scored a total of 8 goals.
Kechter scored 6 of them and added an assist on one of the other two.
in my opinion it was a really strange decision to join Regensburg and he is not even playing in their U20 team. I hope it changes really soon
Hey, is someone here capable of telling me about the Germans for 2021 draft? Are Thomas and Nikolaus Heigl the top prospects?
It's still a bit early and I haven't seen enough from the eligible players this season to compare them properly.
The Heigl twins are a curious case for me. I have a friend who has seen them live a few times and is very high on them and their numbers are impressive. The few times I have seen them via stream (mostly playing for the national team (U16 and U17) I saw flashes but came away slightly underwhelmed. I hope to see more of them as the season continues.
My personal favourite so far has been Bennet Roßmy who really stood out when I watched the U17 national team. Too bad I cannot watch him in league play.
A couple of risers for me since I made my pre-season rankings are Haakon Hänelt and Kevin Niedenz. But right now this is all heavily influenced by the few U17 games I saw. I haven't really been able to see many of these kids in league play. That will hopefully change in October and November.
Overall I don't see the same high end talent as we have in the 2020 draft (Stützle, Peterka, Glötzl, Reichel) or 2019 (Seider).
I am not yet convinced that even the best players in this class will have a great chance to be drafted. It will be very interesting to see if any of them can really take a step forward this season and maybe separate themselves from the group.
The 2003 vintage is weaker than the 2002 vintage, both in breadth and at its peak. I also regard Bennet Rosmy as the best talent at the moment.
I have started to work on updating my rankings. They should be ready on Thursday.
I am focussing on the rankings for the 2020 and 2021 drafts. The other lists may be tweaked slightly, but I won't do a big update for those until the end of the year.
I may also change the layout of the rankings a bit.
Maximilian Glötzl also plays for EC Bad Nauheim (DEL 2).
Fabian Herrmann also plays for Eisbären Regensburg (Oberliga Süd)
Markus Schweiger also plays for ESV Kaufbeuren (DEL 2).
Filip Reisnecker also plays for Eisbären Regensburg (Oberliga Süd)
Thanks, for the heads up.
When I changed the format for the lists, some outdated and some just plain wrong data got into my updated lists. I thought that it was only the positions that got screwed up, but some of the teams were apparently affected as well.
I'll have to go over everything again, and then re-post the list.
There are also many players that play both for their U17 and their U20 team. Listing all the teams would take up too much space, so I will pick one.
I am just not sure if I will go with the "higher quality" team meaning U20 over U17, Oberliga over U20, DEL over Oberliga etc. or if I should pick the team they are playing for the most.
For now, take the positions and the teams/leagues with a grain of salt.
Once I got my database back in order I will update all the posts.
Your lists cause a lot of work and take a lot of time. Why not just refer to eliteprospects.com and add your ranking to the link. More data, less work.
I gotta say I'm quite hyped for this years draft class. I can't recall 17 year old forwards playing such a big role in the DEL, especially not 3 of them. Makes me hopeful for the WJC as well as the upcoming draft. Definetly feels like German hockey is tacking a step in the right direction talent wise
Good article on the recent rise of hockey in the country and the prospects on the way.
Powerhaus: Rise of German Hockey - Last Word on Hockey
Do you think stützle,reichel and Peterka will also Play the u18 wcj in April, especially glötzl who was scratched off the roster for the U20 would be nice to watch.
At the moment, you should expect to see all four be part of Team Germany at the U18, if available.
However, if any of their teams (Mannheim, Munich or Berlin) make a deep playoff run, there would be a chance they are not released for the tournament, especially if they continue to play significant/important roles on their DEL teams.
I think at least one of them (Stützle) will play with the big boys in switzerland
yes, I think so too, but if you look at Jack hughes back in the days, he also played U18,U20 and WC in just one season
Jack Hughes at eliteprospects.com
But I highly doubt that Mannheim will give Stützle free for the U18, they miss him very much just right now in the season
I have a Problem with him, yes this Guy has speed and can handle the puck good. But his biggest weakness is his weight and size. When he gets into a Boardbattle or Physical Game, he loose the Puck.
I saw him playing now twice in Landshut and the Picture is always the same. IMO he is called up or allowes to early to play in a Men League, maybe good enough for EU Ice and Gameplay but not for the small ring NHL/AHL ICE i dont see it. Talent yes but Body limiting the High end.
Is he really 160 cm ? If yes respect for making it to the german U18 NT
this is not the current weight and size, but there is no question that he is not tall and heavy enough for a professional league. there are limits to his talent.
Yeah around 160-165 cm. When he stepped on the Ice you see him direct. The rest are all bigger then him.
Maybe respect yes, but speed is not everything. Speed brings you only the big advantage till you get your first serious Injurie.
With speedy Player its always the same procedure and its repeating all the Time. Sorry he is not able to controll the puck against physical battle, so what is he helping me when i only can use him on rush.
Oh i remember in the last Game in Landshut, he get checked pretty hard cause he doesnt expect the physical step up on him. For his Age and first ear pro still limited talent, thats early to tell.
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