German Prospects for the NHL Draft

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    1FHaakon HäneltEisbären BerlinDELB
    2FBennet RoßmyLausitzer FüchseDEL 2C
    3CYannick ProskeIserlohn RoostersDELC
    4FKevin NiedenzKölner JunghaieDNL U20 IC
    5DLuca MünzenbergerKölner JunghaieDNL U20 IC
    6CRobin Van CalsterKölner JunghaieDNL U20 IC
    7FNicolaus HeiglEC Salzburg U20ICE YSLC
    8FThomas HeiglEC Salzburg U20ICE YSLC
    9FConnor KorteHC Davos U20U20 ElitC
    10FSebastian CimmermanRB Hockey JuniorsAlpsHLD
    11LWPascal SteckKölner JunghaieDNL U20 ID
    12FOleg TschwanowJungadler MannheimDNL U20 ID
    13FPhilipp HechtJungadler MannheimDNL U20 ID
    14FRoman ZapJungadler MannheimDNL U20 ID
    15DFabrizio PiluJungadler MannheimDNL U20 ID
    16FJustin BüsingKölner JunghaieDNL U20 ID
    17FPhilip FeistEC Salzburg U20ICE YSLD
    18FSten FischerEC Salzburg U20ICE YSLD
    19DAlexander SchmidtKölner JunghaieDNL U20 ID
    20FDominik GißiblEC Bad Tölz U20DNL U20 IID
    21RDMarkus FreisKrefelder EV U23Oberliga NordD
    22FAlex BergerEisbären Juniors BerlinDNL U20 ID
    23DAlessandro SchmidbauerEC Salzburg U20ICE YSLD
    24DNiklas HörmannEC Bad Tölz U20DNL U20 IID
    25DMalte KrenzlinJungadler MannheimDNL U20 ID
    26FYuma GrimmEisbären Juniors BerlinDNL U20 ID
    27DMarius WinkelmannEC Salzburg U20ICE YSLD
    28FKonstantin MelnikowJungadler MannheimDNL U20 ID
    29FTim GorgenländerJungadler MannheimDNL U20 ID
    30FOliver EcklEC Salzburg U20ICE YSLD

    Goalies:

    JanPosNameTeamLeagueRating
    1GNikita QuappKrefeld PinguineDELC
    2GNick Jordan ViereggeDresdner EislöwenDEL 2D
    3GMarinus SchundaStarbulls RosenheimDNL U20 IID
    4GLuca GanzJungadler MannheimDNL U20 ID

    A-Players: Pretty sure they will be drafted in the first three rounds.
    B-Players: Could be drafted in round 4 through 7, but there is also a chance they go undrafted.
    C-Players: Maybe a late round pick, but more likely won't be drafted
    D-Players: Small chance they could develop into NHL level players, but not in time to be drafted.
     
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    A-Players: I think they deserve to be drafted as overagers.
    B-Players: I think that maybe a team could take a flyer on them, but their chances are slim.
    C-Players: Probably won't be drafted, but could play themselves on the radar of NHL teams as free agents.
    D-Players: Will most likely spend their careers in Germany and maybe play for the national team sometimes.

    Undrafted Free Agents

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    A-Players: There is a really good chance they get signed by an NHL team.
    B-Players: They have a decent chance to get a deal with an NHL team, but it's far from a sure thing.
    C-Players: They could play themselves on the radar of NHL teams but at this point it's unlikely they will be signed.
    D-Players: Will most likely spend their careers in Germany and maybe play for the national team sometimes.
     
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    RkPosNameTeamLeagueRating
    1FRoman KechterRögle BK J18J18 RegionA
    2FJulian LutzEC SalzburgICE HLB
    3FMoritz EliasNürnberg Ice TigersDELB
    4FLuca HaufKrefelder EV U23Oberliga NordB
    5DLeo HafenrichterKölner JunghaieDNL U20 IC
    6DRayan BettaharJungadler MannheimDNL U20 IC
    7FVasilii PanovJungadler MannheimDNL U20 IC
    8FMaksim AntonDüsseldorfer EG U20DNL U20 IC
    9FMatthias PischoffKölner JunghaieDEB U17 I NordC
    10DAdrian KleinStraubing TigersDELC
    11FBenedikt DiebolderESV Kaufbeuren U17DEB U17 I SüdC
    12DPhilip SinnEC Salzburg U20ICE YSLD
    13FLukas UllmannERC Ingolstadt U20DNL U20 ID
    14FEric HördlerEisbären Juniors BerlinDNL U20 ID
    15FPhilipp KreningEC Salzburg U20ICE YSLD
    16FMaximilian HeimJungadler MannheimDNL U20 ID
    17LDVincent GrunewaldKölner JunghaieDEB U17 I NordD
    18FLennard NieleckEC Salzburg U20ICE YSLD
    19FDorian KielbasaKrefelder EV U20DNL U20 ID
    20FKevin SchinkoEV Landshut U17DEB U17 I SüdD
    21DHans DrunkenmölleEisbären Juniors BerlinDEB U17 I NordD
    22FDaniel AssavolyukEC Salzburg U20ICE YSLD
    23FNikita KrymskiyVityaz Podolsk U17Russia U17D
    24CLuca HartenfelsKölner JunghaieDNL U20 ID
    25FValentino WeißgerberKölner JunghaieDNL U20 ID
    26DAlessandro FalkEisbären Juniors BerlinDNL U20 ID
    27FLuigi CalceJungadler MannheimDNL U20 ID
    28FVeit OswaldEV Landshut U20DNL U20 ID


    Goalies:


    RkPosNameTeamLeagueRating
    1GSimon WolfEC Salzburg U20ICE YSLB
    2GLenny-Alexander SturmDüsseldorfer EG U17DEB U17 I NordD


    A-Players: Could turn into early round picks.
    B-Players: Potential mid- to late-round picks
    C-Players: Maybe a late round pick, but more likely won't be drafted
    D-Players: Small chance they could develop into NHL level players, but not in time to be drafted.
     
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    2025 Draft and beyond?
    Aleksei Abramov (2025 or 2026 Draft)
    Adel Akhmadeev (2026 or 2027 Draft)
    Marc Blank (2025 or 2026 Draft)
    Landon Dupont (2027 or 2028 Draft)
    Awrelij Fomenko (2025 or 2026 Draft)
    David Lewandowski (2025 Draft)
    Karl Philipp Pohle (2025 or 2026 Draft)
    Max Thiel (2026 Draft)
    Lennox Ullmann (2028 Draft)

    I'll admit that we are getting in somewhat ridiculous territory here with players aged 9-13. So let me know if you think I should remove them and wait until they are older.
     
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    It is a very impressive piece of work you have done here Maverick. Are the players listed in random order or by level of talent?

    Could you tell me those you believe stand the best chance of getting drafted in 2013. I suppose it is seldom that a player has been drafted directly out of a German junior league, and that it is mandatory that they have some adult hockey experience (not neccecary in the DEL but at least in the 2.BL).

    Are Leon Draisaitl and Dominik Kahun the best talents from 1995 playing outside Germany?
     
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    Thanks.

    I have listed the players alphabetically, and I am just following their stats, and rarely if ever actually see them play.

    I have seen some of the late '94 and '95, though, and Kahun and Draisaitl are pretty much in a league of their own. Especially Draisaitl since he is not even draft eligible in 2013 because of his late birthday.
    However there are some 1995 born players in Germany who are quite talented.
    Tim Bender on defense and forwards Kevin Orendorz and Markus Eisenschmid are among my favourite German prospects for this draft. But their chances are rather slim compared to guys like Kahun or Frederik Tiffels, who is playing in the USHL.

    It is true that most (maybe even all) players that are drafted out of Germany had already played in men's league.
     
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    Maximilian Glässl will be playing for my hometown team HIFK (junior B) this upcoming season. It's going to be a talented team for sure and Glässl is going to help on the blueline, since HIFK has lost two top four defenseman from last years Junior C team. Also there will ne only three defenseman back from the junior b team, only one being a regular.
     
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    @Sparta2009:
    Thank you very much for the update on Glässl. It is good to hear, that he seems to be developing nicely and that he will be staying in Finland.

    As far as this thread goes, I have decided to focus on fewer players, so that hopefully I will be able to keep it updated regularly.
    I will update it today with the end of season stats for those players I will focus on for next season.
     
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    The new DNL season is starting this weekend which means I have started updating this thread again.

    And I have added some information on Non-German players in the DNL.
     
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    I decided to add another category, with players who played in North America (Junior or Pro) and returned to Germany and young players who could potentially play internationally for Germany in the future.

    I will update this thread once or twice every month, because my time does not allow more than that at the moment.

    The Next update will come around 2013-10-07.
     
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    Impressive work Maverik.

    Let's hope some of them make it into the draft.

    There seem to be a few that are crushing the Schüler-BL again, are they compareble in terms of talent level than previous players that did so (Kahun, Rieder, Draisaitl,...). Of course Draisaitl is in his own world, but for compared tothe rest..

    THe guys I am refering to are:
    Tobias Eder
    Christoph Kiefersauer
    Neal Samanski
    Rico Rossi
    Pascal Grosse

    And for the DNL:
    Ilya Sharipov
    Jakob Mayenschein
     
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    Yannik Valenti seems to be off to an amazing start. 15 points in 4 games, as a late 2000, outscoring even players born in early 1998. Obviously far too early in the season, and at that age far too early in the career to make anything out of it, but it's very impressive nontheless.

    On a minor note, Ralf Rinke (on the potential national team players list) is currently playing for Hamburg in the DEL, not Bremerhaven. He might return to Bremerhaven once everyone is healthy, but right now he should get the majority of the games with Hamburg.
     
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    Of course with the different groups in the Schüler BL the stats are a bit skewed for many of the players especially early on. There is a team in "Süd Gruppe B" (TEV Miesbach) that has given up 103 goals in 6 games while only scoring 4 goals themselves. So obviously the stats of their opponents' players might be a bit inflated.

    I know that about Rinke, but I hadn't got around to including his DEL stats, yet.
    I am currently working on that.
    But I appreciate the info. Please let me know if I forget anything else.

    Also if anyone would like certain players added to my lists please let me know.
    Personally I am really intrigued by Eisbären goalie Benjamin Beck. The kid is 14 and as tall as I am (6'4'').
    I wonder how he will develop.

    I'll keep working on this thread and it should be completely updated with this weekends games on Monday afternoon.
     
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    i have the pleasure the watch yannik in every home game. and i can tell you, it's a pleasure. :nod:
     
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    I have completed the update. Hopefully without too many mistakes.

    I will probably do the next update sometime around the end of October or the start of November.
     
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    I don't think any of these kids are really gonna come close to Draisaitl, Kahun or Rieder (statistically). What these 3 did at that level will probably not be repeated by anyone anytime soon.

    Since I have not seen them play, I cannot comment on their skills or talent.
    But I believe that Tobias Eder is the most promising of the lot. But this is just a hunch based on past numbers both in league play and international play. So don't put too much stock in it. ;)

    Eder comes from an interesting family, as far as hockey is concerned. His brother Andreas is playing in the WHL, and his cousin and teammate Michael Grabmaier seems also to be a rather talented young player.
     
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    [size=+2]German Players in the CHL[/size]​

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    *Helped Maverick41 with the CHL since I'm in Canada, I used his coding to do the table, so he takes all the credit for this thread.
     
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    Is Draisaitl still projected to go early in the first round?
     
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    Yes, I think I have seen him ranked anywhere between 4th overall and 15th overall.
     
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    Any chances of having Alexandre Sills playing for the Germany National Team?
    Draisatl scored 2 more points in his last game..looks like it will be the needed seconds great year to increase the chances for an early draft.

    But the other Germans like Sedlar, Eder, Kammerer, Eisenschmid seem to have problems. I expected more from them...concerning the stats. I can't say anything about their way of playing.
     
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    Honestly, I think he would rather play with team Canada since he played pretty much his whole hockey in Québec.

    Don't be too fast on judging Sedlar, Eder, Kammerer and Eisenschmid by their points production. They were all playing in the DNL last year and it's hard for most European to adjust their style to the North-American system/ice. I've seen them play and they actually look better than their stats show, I believe the stats will get better by the end of October/November.
     
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