German Prospects for the NHL Draft

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    First Time Eligibles

    - January Ranking -

    Skaters:

    JanOctPrePosNameTeamLeagueRating
    111CTim StützleAdler MannheimDELA
    222FJohn-Jason PeterkaEHC Red Bull MünchenDELA
    335CLukas ReichelEisbären BerlinDELA
    443DMaximilian GlötzlKölner JunghaieDNL U20 IB
    568CFlorian EliasJungadler MannheimDNL U20 IC
    61111FJakub BorzeckiRed Bull Hockey AkademieDHL CupC
    754CSamuel DubéHalifax MooseheadsQMJHLC
    81215FJoshua SamanskiOwen Sound AttackOHLC
    9910RDMaksymilian SzuberRed Bull Hockey AkademieDHL CupC
    1077FJustin VolekRavensburg TowerstarsDEL 2C
    1186FFabian HerrmannEisbären RegensburgOberliga SüdC
    121312RDArkadiusz DziamborJungadler MannheimDNL U20 IC
    131414DLuca TuchelJungadler MannheimDNL U20 ID
    141616FJosef EhamRed Bull Hockey AkademieDHL CupD
    151713RWJussi PetersenKölner JunghaieDNL U20 ID
    16109LWFilip ReisneckerJung-Eisbären RegensburgDNL U20 ID
    171517RDDaniel BruchKölner JunghaieDNL U20 ID
    1825n/rFDanjo LeonhardtRed Bull Hockey AkademieDHL CupD
    191820FMarat KhaydarovEV Zug U20U20-ElitD
    202118FDaniel NeumannEV Zug U20U20-ElitD
    2122n/rDKorbinian GeibelEisbären Juniors BerlinDNL U20 ID
    222321FMarkus SchweigerESV KaufbeurenDNL U20 IID
    232019LDMaximilian MennerRed Bull Hockey AkademieDHL CupD
    2419n/rDJoshua GeußKölner JunghaieDNL U20 ID
    2526n/rFJimmy MartinovicKölner JunghaieDNL U20 ID
    2627n/rFNoah DunhamJungadler MannheimDNL U20 ID
    2724n/rFMaxmilian HopsESV KaufbeurenDNL U20 IID

    Goalies:

    JanOctPrePosNameTeamLeagueRating
    111GFlorian BuglRed Bull Hockey AkademieDHL CupC
    233GArno TiefenseeEC Bad TölzDNL U20 IC
    322GNiklas LunemannKölner JunghaieDNL U20 IC


    A-Players: Pretty sure they will be drafted in the first three rounds.
    B-Players: Could be drafted in round 4 through 7, but there is also a chance they go undrafted.
    C-Players: Maybe a late round pick, but more likely won't be drafted
    D-Players: Small chance they could develop into NHL level players, but not in time to be drafted.
     
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    Overagers


    - Pre-Season Ranking -

    Skaters:
    1. A - Tim Wohlgemuth
    2. A - Taro Jentzsch
    3. B - Wojciech Stachowiak
    4. B - Tim Fleischer
    5. B - Yannik Valenti
    6. B - Simon Gnyp
    7. B - Jan-Luca Schumacher
    8. B - Alexander Dersch
    9. C - Yegor Alanov
    10. C - Louis Brune
    11. C - Filip Varejcka
    12. C - Manuel Alberg
    13. C - Leon Hüttl
    14. C - Sebastian Streu
    15. C - Cedric Schiemenz
    16. C - Mike Fischer
    17. C - Markus Lillich
    18. C - Dennis Lobach
    19. C - Magnus Eisenmenger
    20. C - Tim Brunnhuber
    21. C - Eric Mik
    22. C - Tommy Pasanen
    23. C - Colin Ugbekile
    24. C - Nino Kinder
    25. C - Tim Lutz
    26. C - Tobias Möller
    27. C - Mario Zimmermann
    28. C - Steven Raabe
    29. D - Daniel Wirt
    30. D - Luis Schinko
    31. D - Alexander Ehl
    32. D - Moritz Tschiersch
    33. D - Elias Lindner
    34. D - Fabjon Kuqi
    35. D - Thomas Reichel
    36. D - Tom-Eric Bappert
    37. D - Gregoriy Saakyan
    38. D - Darren Mieszkowski
    39. D - Nicolas Appendino
    40. D - Bastian Eckl
    41. D - Moritz Wirth
    42. D - Marco Baßler
    43. D - Sebastian Christmann
    44. D - Ludwig Nirschl
    45. D - Willy Rudert
    46. D - Enrico Henriquez-Morales
    47. D - Philipp Mass
    48. D - Edwin Schitz
    49. D - Kevin Slezak
    50. D - Timo Bakos

    Goalies:
    1. B - Tobis Ancicka
    2. C - Hendrik Hane
    3. C - Florian Mnich
    4. D - Nils Kapteinat
    5. D - Tom Schickedanz
    6. D - Benjamin Beck
    7. D - Mirko Davi

    A-Players: I think they deserve to be drafted as overagers.
    B-Players: I think that maybe a team could take a flyer on them, but their chances are slim.
    C-Players: Probably won't be drafted, but could play themselves on the radar of NHL teams as free agents.
    D-Players: Will most likely spend their careers in Germany and maybe play for the national team sometimes.

    Undrafted Free Agents

    - Pre-Season Ranking -

    Skaters:
    1. A - Markus Eisenschmid
    2. A - Marc Michaelis
    3. B - Frederik Tiffels
    4. B - Stefan Loibl
    5. B - Lukas Kälble
    6. B - Parker Tuomie
    7. B - Jonas Müller
    8. B - Tobias Eder
    9. C - Fabio Pfohl
    10. C - Maximilian Kislinger
    11. C - Lucas Dumont
    12. C - Marco Sternheimer
    13. C - Maximilian Kammerer
    14. C - Jakob Mayenschein
    15. C - Andreas Eder
    16. C - Kai Wissmann
    17. C - Julian Napravnik
    18. C - Maximilian Eisenmenger
    19. C - Leon Niederberger
    20. C - Tim Bender
    21. C - Mick Köhler
    22. C - Charlie Jahnke
    23. D - Maximilian Daubner
    24. D - Maximilian Gläßl
    25. D - Janik Möser
    26. D - Calvin Pokorny
    27. D - Maximilian Adam
    28. D - Tobias Fohrler
    29. D - Christoph Kiefersauer
    30. D - Vincent Hessler
    31. D - Johannes Huß
    32. D - David Trinkberger
    33. D - Marvin Ratmann
    34. D - Dani Bindels
    35. D - Louis Latta

    Goalies:
    1. C - Kevin Reich
    2. C - Hannibal Weitzmann
    3. C - Maximilian Franzreb
    4. C - Mirko Pantkowski
    5. D - Leon Hungerecker

    A-Players: There is a really good chance they get signed by an NHL team.
    B-Players: They have a decent chance to get a deal with an NHL team, but it's far from a sure thing.
    C-Players: They could play themselves on the radar of NHL teams but at this point it's unlikely they will be signed.
    D-Players: Will most likely spend their careers in Germany and maybe play for the national team sometimes.
     
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    - January Ranking -

    Skaters:

    JanOctPrePosNameTeamDNL U20 IRating
    127FHaakon HäneltRed Bull Hockey AkademieDHL CupB
    212FBennet RoßmyBili Tygri Liberec U20DHL CupB
    375FSebastian CimmermanRed Bull Hockey AkademieDHL CupC
    431FConnor KorteHC Davos U17U17 ElitC
    544FNikolaus HeiglEC Bad TölzDNL U20 IIC
    653FThomas HeiglEC Bad TölzDNL U20 IIC
    71011CRobin Van CalsterKölner JunghaieDNL U20 IC
    866LWPascal SteckKölner JunghaieDEB U17 I NordC
    9810FKevin NiedenzDüsseldorfer EGDNL U20 IC
    1098FOleg TschwanowJungadler MannheimDNL U20 IC
    111313DFabrizio PiluJungadler MannheimDNL U20 IC
    1211n/rFJustin BüsingKölner JunghaieDEB U17 I NordC
    131212FSten FischerRed Bull Hockey AkademieEBJLD
    1427n/rDLuca MünzenbergerKölner JunghaieDNL U20 ID
    1514n/rDAlexander SchmidtKölner JunghaieDEB U17 I NordD
    16159FDominik GißiblEC Bad TölzDNL U20 IID
    1722n/rFPhilipp HechtJungadler MannheimDEB U17 I SüdD
    181818FRoman ZapJungadler MannheimDNL U20 ID
    201616FYuma GrimmEV RegensburgDNL U20 ID
    2023n/rFKonstantin MelnikowERC IngolstadtDEB U17 I SüdD
    2117n/rDNiklas HörmannEC Bad TölzDNL U20 IID
    221922FTim GorgenländerJungadler MannheimDEB U17 I SüdD
    232014RDMarkus FreisKölner JunghaieDEB U17 I NordD
    242623DMarius WinkelmannRed Bull Hockey AkademieEBYSLD
    252421FPhilip FeistRed Bull Hockey AkademieEBJLD
    2628n/rFAlex BergerEisbären Juniors BerlinDEB U17 I NordD
    272115DAlessandro SchmidbauerRed Bull Hockey AkademieEBYSLD
    282519DMalte KrenzlinJungadler MannheimDEB U17 I SüdD
    2929n/rFOliver EcklRed Bull Hockey AkademieEBJLD


    Goalies:


    JanOctPrePosNameTeamLeagueRating
    1n/rn/rGNikita QuappRed Bull Hockey AkademieEBJLC
    211GMarinus SchundaStarbulls RosenheimDNL U20 IID
    322GLuca GanzJungadler MannheimDEB U17 I SüdD
    43n/rGNick Jordan ViereggeESC DresdenDNL U20 IID


    A-Players: Could turn into early round picks.
    B-Players: Potential mid- to late-round picks
    C-Players: Maybe a late round pick, but more likely won't be drafted
    D-Players: Small chance they could develop into NHL level players, but not in time to be drafted.
     
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    - January Ranking -
    Skaters:

    RkPosNameTeamLeagueTier
    1FRoman KechterJung-Eisbären RegensburgDEB U17 I Süd1
    2FJulian LutzRed Bull Hockey AkademieDHL Cup1
    3FMoritz EliasJungadler MannheimDEB U17 I Süd2
    4FLuca HaufKrefelder EVDEB U17 I Nord2
    5CYannick ProskeJungadler MannheimDNL U20 I2
    6FMatthias PischoffDüsseldorfer EGDEB U17 I Nord2
    7FMaxim AntonDüsseldorfer EGDEB U17 I Nord2
    8DLeo HafenrichterKölner JunghaieDEB U17 I Nord2
    9FBenedikt DiebolderESV KaufbeurenDEB U17 I Süd2
    10DAdrian KleinBlue Devils WeidenOberliga Süd3
    11LDVincent GrunewaldKölner JunghaieDEB U17 I Nord3
    12DPhilip SinnRed Bull Hockey AkademieEBJL3
    13FEric HördlerEisbären Juniors BerlinDEB U17 I Nord3
    14FNikita KrymskiyEisbären Juniors BerlinDEB U17 I Nord4
    15FValentino WeißgerberETC CrimmitschauDEB U17 I Nord4
    16FVasilii PanovJungadler MannheimDEB U17 I Süd4
    17CLuca HartenfelsKölner JunghaieDEB U17 I Nord4
    18FLennard NieleckRed Bull Hockey AkademieEBJL4
    19FPhilipp KreningRed Bull Hockey AkademieEBJL4
    20FDorian KielbasaKrefelder EVDEB U17 I Nord4
    21DAlessandro FalkEisbären Juniors BerlinDEB U17 I Nord4
    22FVeit OswaldEV LandshutDEB U17 I Süd4
    23FKevin SchinkoEV LandshutDEB U17 I Süd4
    24DHans DrunkenmölleEisbären Juniors BerlinDEB U17 I Nord4
    25FLuigi CalceJungadler MannheimDEB U17 I Süd4
    26FDaniel AssavolyukRed Bull Hockey AkademieEBJL4
    27FDimitrii TretiakovRT Bad NauheimDEB U17 II Nord4


    Goalies:

    RkPosNameTeamLeagueTier
    1GSimon WolfRed Bull Hockey AkademieEBJL1
    2GLenny-Alexander SturmEisbären Juniors BerlinDEB U17 I Nord2


    Now I have seen and heard enough about these kids to try and make a first ranking for this draft.
    But remember that this is still very far away and there are still a lot of kids eligible for this draft that I haven't seen and haven't gotten much information about.
    I have not rated them yet but I have put them in tiers.
     
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    Kevin Adam
    Maurice Barth
    Linus Brandl
    Leon Dennerlein
    Marten Dickhäuser
    Serafin Hörl
    Ole-Christian Krüger
    Seonwoo Park
    Nikita Tschwanow
    Vivamus Uselmann
    Alexander Vladelchtchikov
    Philip Ziesche

    Goalie:
    Justus Roth

    These guys are too far away from being drafted for me to really rate them in tiers A to D.
    Instead I'll just bold the ones I really like at this point. I also haven't seen most of them myself and am going strictly based on hearsay and stats (that could be unreliable). The ones in green are the players I have seen myself.

    For players without a profile at eliteprospects I have linke to their profile at RODI-DB.
     
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    2024 Draft and beyond?
    Aleksei Abramov (2025 or 2026 Draft)
    Adel Akhmadeev (2026 or 2027 Draft)
    Paul Bechthold (2024 Draft)
    Marc Blank (2025 or 2026 Draft)
    Landon Dupont (2027 or 2028 Draft)
    Nolan Dupont (2024 or 2025 Draft)
    Awrelij Fomenko (2025 or 2026 Draft)
    Artjom Khaydarov (2024 Draft)
    Titas Krakauskas (2024 Draft)
    Cameron Leask (2024 Draft)
    David Lewandowski (2025 Draft)
    Karl Philipp Pohle (2025 or 2026 Draft)
    Max Thiel (2026 Draft)
    Lennox Ullmann (2028 Draft)
    Nikita Zimmermann (2024 Draft)

    I'll admit that we are getting in somewhat ridiculous territory here with players aged 9-13. So let me know if you think I should remove them and wait until they are older.
     
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    It is a very impressive piece of work you have done here Maverick. Are the players listed in random order or by level of talent?

    Could you tell me those you believe stand the best chance of getting drafted in 2013. I suppose it is seldom that a player has been drafted directly out of a German junior league, and that it is mandatory that they have some adult hockey experience (not neccecary in the DEL but at least in the 2.BL).

    Are Leon Draisaitl and Dominik Kahun the best talents from 1995 playing outside Germany?
     
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    Thanks.

    I have listed the players alphabetically, and I am just following their stats, and rarely if ever actually see them play.

    I have seen some of the late '94 and '95, though, and Kahun and Draisaitl are pretty much in a league of their own. Especially Draisaitl since he is not even draft eligible in 2013 because of his late birthday.
    However there are some 1995 born players in Germany who are quite talented.
    Tim Bender on defense and forwards Kevin Orendorz and Markus Eisenschmid are among my favourite German prospects for this draft. But their chances are rather slim compared to guys like Kahun or Frederik Tiffels, who is playing in the USHL.

    It is true that most (maybe even all) players that are drafted out of Germany had already played in men's league.
     
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    Maximilian Glässl will be playing for my hometown team HIFK (junior B) this upcoming season. It's going to be a talented team for sure and Glässl is going to help on the blueline, since HIFK has lost two top four defenseman from last years Junior C team. Also there will ne only three defenseman back from the junior b team, only one being a regular.
     
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    @Sparta2009:
    Thank you very much for the update on Glässl. It is good to hear, that he seems to be developing nicely and that he will be staying in Finland.

    As far as this thread goes, I have decided to focus on fewer players, so that hopefully I will be able to keep it updated regularly.
    I will update it today with the end of season stats for those players I will focus on for next season.
     
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    The new DNL season is starting this weekend which means I have started updating this thread again.

    And I have added some information on Non-German players in the DNL.
     
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    I decided to add another category, with players who played in North America (Junior or Pro) and returned to Germany and young players who could potentially play internationally for Germany in the future.

    I will update this thread once or twice every month, because my time does not allow more than that at the moment.

    The Next update will come around 2013-10-07.
     
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    Impressive work Maverik.

    Let's hope some of them make it into the draft.

    There seem to be a few that are crushing the Schüler-BL again, are they compareble in terms of talent level than previous players that did so (Kahun, Rieder, Draisaitl,...). Of course Draisaitl is in his own world, but for compared tothe rest..

    THe guys I am refering to are:
    Tobias Eder
    Christoph Kiefersauer
    Neal Samanski
    Rico Rossi
    Pascal Grosse

    And for the DNL:
    Ilya Sharipov
    Jakob Mayenschein
     
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    Yannik Valenti seems to be off to an amazing start. 15 points in 4 games, as a late 2000, outscoring even players born in early 1998. Obviously far too early in the season, and at that age far too early in the career to make anything out of it, but it's very impressive nontheless.

    On a minor note, Ralf Rinke (on the potential national team players list) is currently playing for Hamburg in the DEL, not Bremerhaven. He might return to Bremerhaven once everyone is healthy, but right now he should get the majority of the games with Hamburg.
     
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    Of course with the different groups in the Schüler BL the stats are a bit skewed for many of the players especially early on. There is a team in "Süd Gruppe B" (TEV Miesbach) that has given up 103 goals in 6 games while only scoring 4 goals themselves. So obviously the stats of their opponents' players might be a bit inflated.

    I know that about Rinke, but I hadn't got around to including his DEL stats, yet.
    I am currently working on that.
    But I appreciate the info. Please let me know if I forget anything else.

    Also if anyone would like certain players added to my lists please let me know.
    Personally I am really intrigued by Eisbären goalie Benjamin Beck. The kid is 14 and as tall as I am (6'4'').
    I wonder how he will develop.

    I'll keep working on this thread and it should be completely updated with this weekends games on Monday afternoon.
     
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    i have the pleasure the watch yannik in every home game. and i can tell you, it's a pleasure. :nod:
     
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    I have completed the update. Hopefully without too many mistakes.

    I will probably do the next update sometime around the end of October or the start of November.
     
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    I don't think any of these kids are really gonna come close to Draisaitl, Kahun or Rieder (statistically). What these 3 did at that level will probably not be repeated by anyone anytime soon.

    Since I have not seen them play, I cannot comment on their skills or talent.
    But I believe that Tobias Eder is the most promising of the lot. But this is just a hunch based on past numbers both in league play and international play. So don't put too much stock in it. ;)

    Eder comes from an interesting family, as far as hockey is concerned. His brother Andreas is playing in the WHL, and his cousin and teammate Michael Grabmaier seems also to be a rather talented young player.
     
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    [size=+2]German Players in the CHL[/size]​

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    *Helped Maverick41 with the CHL since I'm in Canada, I used his coding to do the table, so he takes all the credit for this thread.
     
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    Is Draisaitl still projected to go early in the first round?
     
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    Yes, I think I have seen him ranked anywhere between 4th overall and 15th overall.
     
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    Any chances of having Alexandre Sills playing for the Germany National Team?
    Draisatl scored 2 more points in his last game..looks like it will be the needed seconds great year to increase the chances for an early draft.

    But the other Germans like Sedlar, Eder, Kammerer, Eisenschmid seem to have problems. I expected more from them...concerning the stats. I can't say anything about their way of playing.
     
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    Honestly, I think he would rather play with team Canada since he played pretty much his whole hockey in Québec.

    Don't be too fast on judging Sedlar, Eder, Kammerer and Eisenschmid by their points production. They were all playing in the DNL last year and it's hard for most European to adjust their style to the North-American system/ice. I've seen them play and they actually look better than their stats show, I believe the stats will get better by the end of October/November.
     
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