International: German Junior National Teams

[jnk96]

What do ya'll think about ya'lls U20 team? As good as last years or no?

"As good as last year's"? That would mean it was good last year but it really wasn't. Lol

I'm gonna say it might be even worse, with Wiederer, Loibl, A. Eder, Kammerer gone.

 

[Maverick41]

"As good as last year's"? That would mean it was good last year but it really wasn't. Lol

I'm gonna say it might be even worse, with Wiederer, Loibl, A. Eder, Kammerer gone.

I would agree with this.

Of course guys like Napravnik, Mayenschein, Schütz, Gläßl, T.Eder (still an underager) or Körner are all a year older and hopefully better, and there are some promising guys like Adam, Jahnke, Walther, Soramies and Kiefersauer, born in 98, who could join the team. Still, I think it's more likely that they are even worse than last year. Hopefully some of the other teams will also be weaker this year.
I have higher hopes for the following years. If those kids that are looking promising right now continue to develop.

 

[kabidjan18]

Hmmm...I can only speak for Austria but we lose two really good forwards in Huber and Zwerger, but we bring back an injured Kromp, problem is 98' is dead-on-arrival, one very promising defender and that's basically it. The rematch should be exciting. I think it's probably down to those 2 teams though. I don't see one of the other team winning.

 

[jnk96]

First game in U17 five nations tournament: GER - CZE 0-6 with 8-43 shots. Well then.

 

[Maverick41]

They did better against Slovakia (losing 3-4 in the shootout). That's not surprising since Slovakia appears to be the 2nd worst team in the tournament. I think Switzerland is a a bit better.
I am really worried about the game against the US though. It will be the 4th game in as many days for the German team and the US team should be the strongest in the tournament and I would not be shocked if they score 10-15 goals on us.

For last night, I guess the 5 minute major penalty for slashing against Bokk late in the 3rd period really hurt, though they actually managed to kill that off, after giving up 2 goals on 3 minor penalties earlier in the game.

 

[jnk96]

They did better against Slovakia (losing 3-4 in the shootout). That's not surprising since Slovakia appears to be the 2nd worst team in the tournament. I think Switzerland is a a bit better.
I am really worried about the game against the US though. It will be the 4th game in as many days for the German team and the US team should be the strongest in the tournament and I would not be shocked if they score 10-15 goals on us.

For last night, I guess the 5 minute major penalty for slashing against Bokk late in the 3rd period really hurt, though they actually managed to kill that off, after giving up 2 goals on 3 minor penalties earlier in the game.

Here's the official boxscore:
http://teamusa.usahockey.com/game/game_sheet/14539970

Goal and assist for Bokk, no points for Valenti.

 

[Munchkin10]

I wonder how much attention this actually gets. I bet lots of scouts are just stat watching, because they're all probably at Hlinka.

 

[Maverick41]

I wonder how much attention this actually gets. I bet lots of scouts are just stat watching, because they're all probably at Hlinka.

Probably, though I wouldn't be surprised if some scouts for Colleges or teams from USHL, NAHL and to a lesser degree CHL are watching this tournament looking in particular for any standouts from the 4 European teams.

 

[jnk96]

Probably, though I wouldn't be surprised if some scouts for Colleges or teams from USHL, NAHL and to a lesser degree CHL are watching this tournament looking in particular for any standouts from the 4 European teams.

Definitely US bantam scouts looking for players for the USHL and CHL import drafts.

 

[Munchkin10]

Any Idea if Bokk picked up a suspension?

edit: he didn't

 

[Maverick41]

Since the upcoming tournament for the U18 does not involve other national teams, and the U18 will be missing all the Mannheim players who will play for their club team, I am not sure if I should include the statistics for those games in the OP.
If anybody has an opinion on this please let me know.

 

[jnk96]

Since the upcoming tournament for the U18 does not involve other national teams, and the U18 will be missing all the Mannheim players who will play for their club team, I am not sure if I should include the statistics for those games in the OP.
If anybody has an opinion on this please let me know.

It gives the others a chance to show themselves -- I would include it. But since it's your project, it's obviously entirely up to you. I appreciate the work you do!

 

[Maverick41]

I watched the game between Jungadler Mannheim and HC Karlovy Vary. Mannheim lost 1-2 and their goal was scored by Valenti off a turnover.

These were the forward lines for Mannheim:
Preto - Soramies - Valenti
Eckl - Fischer - Stachowiak
Lutz - Gläser - Wagner
Bauhof - Schulz - Benzler

I am not entirely sure about the defensive pairings but I think it was something like this:
Nijenhuis - Ewald
Möller - Kullmann
Mass - Kremer
Dziambor

For me Stachowiak was the most impressive player for Mannheim. He was so active and was really driving the play for his line. Valenti, Fischer, Gläser and Nijenhuis were pretty good too.

 

[jnk96]

I watched the game between Jungadler Mannheim and HC Karlovy Vary. Mannheim lost 1-2 and their goal was scored by Valenti off a turnover.

These were the forward lines for Mannheim:
Preto - Soramies - Valenti
Eckl - Fischer - Stachowiak
Lutz - Gläser - Wagner
Bauhof - Schulz - Benzler

I am not entirely sure about the defensive pairings but I think it was something like this:
Nijenhuis - Ewald
Möller - Kullmann
Mass - Kremer
Dziambor

For me Stachowiak was the most impressive player for Mannheim. He was so active and was really driving the play for his line. Valenti, Fischer, Gläser and Nijenhuis were pretty good too.

I watched part of this game online today and have to say I still really like Valenti.

 

[Maverick41]

The German U20 will play 4 friendlies against 3 DEL2 teams and a Oberliga Team in October and November.

 

[kalle wirsch]

2:1 win after penalty against Kaufbeuren (Glässl;P:Körner)
http://www.deb-online.de/2016/10/u20-future-challenge-2/

 

[Maverick41]

It wasn't an official international game, but it's impressive that they invited Dominik Bokk to play for the U20 already.

 

[Maverick41]

The U16 team is currently playing a series of 3 games against Finland.
They lost the first two, but avoided being blown out.

Not sure how good the roster for Finland is, though.

 

[kalle wirsch]

Germany U20 won against Freiburg 3:2
Goals:1:0 (23:08) J.Kornelli; 1:1 (37:38) T.Kunz; 2:1 (43:52) J.Mayenschein; 2:2 (45:09/PP1) J.Herm; 3:2 (60:37) S.Schütz
http://www.deb-online.de/2016/10/u20-sieg-gegen-ehc-freiburg/

 

[Munchkin10]

4 Nations U18

1 GK Arnsperger Mark 06.12.99 190 92 L ESV 03 Chemnitz
29 GK Beck Benjamin 19.05.99 202 92 L Red Bull Salzburg/AUT
30 GK Davi Mirko 17.08.99 188 79 L EC Bad Tölz
9 D Bappert Tom-Eric 16.01.99 184 83 L KEC „Die Haie“
5 D Wimmer Lucas 25.09.99 172 74 L SB Rosenheim
8 D Appendino Nicolas 01.02.99 170 69 L KEC „Die Haie“
25 D Koziol Fabian 11.10.99 178 75 L ESV Kaufbeuren
7 D Bölke Brian 15.01.99 192 94 L Eisbären Juniors Berlin
3 D Bühler Andre 10.08.99 173 72 L EV Füssen
6 D Behrens Jonas 30.04.99 182 83 L Hamburger SV
16 F Brunnhuber Tim 19.01.99 182 85 L EV Regensburg
23 F Reichel Thomas 21.04.99 191 89 L SB Rosenheim
10 F Ehl Alexander 28.11.99 173 72 R EV Landshut
20 F Knobloch Tom 07.02.99 183 74 L Eisbären Juniors Berlin
22 F Wohlgemuth Tim 22.07.99 180 82 L ESV Kaufbeuren
11 F Baßler Marco 16.07.99 183 78 R EV Landshut
14 F Pietschmann Max 17.03.99 174 70 L KEC „Die Haie“
4 F Zimmermann Carl 13.01.99 178 87 L Red Bull Salzburg/AUT
17 F Bokk Dominik 03.02.00 185 76 R KEC „Die Haie“
12 F Demmler Marius 21.10.99 181 75 L Eisbären Juniors Berlin
18 F Streu Sebastian 22.11.99 171 68 L Red Bull Salzburg/AUT
13 F Krammer Marc 25.03.99 173 70 R ESV Kaufbeuren
21 F Pfeifer Valentin 16.01.99 174 71 L Krefelder EV 81

link

 

[Munchkin10]

4 Nations U17

1 GK Hane Hendrik 18.09.00 Düsseldorfer EG
30 GK Kapteinat Nils 23.01.00 Düsseldorfer EG
29 GK Mnich Florian 14.01.00 Red Bull Salzburg/AUT
27 D Dersch Alexander 30.03.00 EV Landshut
6 D Mik Eric 28.02.00 Eisbären Juniors Berlin
21 D Stellmann Jan 08.02.00 EV Regensburg
4 D Leitner Maximilian 03.11.00 EC Bad Tölz
5 D Wirt Daniel 13.04.00 Iserlohner EC
7 D Aichinger Nick 12.01.00 KEC „Die Haie“
26 D Heinzinger Niklas 09.01.00 EC Bad Tölz
3 D Puttkammer Finn-Lasse 21.07.00 Eisbären Juniors Berlin
2 F Betzold Erik 18.01.00 KEC „Die Haie“
17 F Saakyan Gregory 19.10.00 ESC Dresden
14 F Lobach Dennis 11.03.00 Red Bull Salzburg/AUT
9 F Tosto Luca 18.11.00 EC Bad Tölz
19 F Fleischer Tim 25.09.00 Iserlohner EC
10 F Schitz Edwin 23.04.00 Red Bull Salzburg/AUT
15 F Brune Louis 05.05.00 Iserlohner EC
12 F Schinko Luis 12.07.00 EV Landshut
8 F Jentzsch Taro 11.06.00 Red Bull Salzburg/AUT
24 F Ãœffing Luis 30.05.00 KEC „Die Haie“
11 F Brunner Johannes 17.06.00 EV Landshut
22 F Bakos Timo 28.07.00 Red Bull Salzburg/AUT
18 F Lorer Tom 02.08.00 Düsseldorfer EG

No Valenti
link

Good to see Saakyan playing for Germany.

 

[Munchkin10]

4 Nations U20

1 GK Pantkowski Mirko 26.05.98 182 75 L Adler Mannheim /Kassel Huskies
30 GK Brenner Cody 19.01.97 181 72 L EV Regensburg
2 D Mannes Niklas 02.07.98 180 76 L Düsseldorfer EG/EC Bad Nauheim
3 D Granz Oliver 18.09.97 176 80 L ESC Wohnbau Moskitos Essen
5 D Fohrler Tobias 06.09.97 195 102 R EV Zug
6 D Halbauer Philipp 27.02.97 179 81 R Eispiraten Crimmitschau
7 D Gläßl Maximilian 13.03.97 189 90 L Straubing Tigers / Löwen Frankfurt
10 D Schütz Simon 09.11.97 178 87 L ERC Ingolstadt / ESV Kaufbeuren
14 D Heiß Silvan 15.02.97 185 80 L EV Landshut
11 F Mayenschein Jakob 01.04.97 181 78 L EC Red Bull Salzburg
12 F Kornelli Julian 05.08.97 185 82 L EC Bad Tölz
13 F Dumont Lucas 08.06.97 187 74 R Kölner EC „Die Haie“ /Eislöwen Dresden
15 F Drews Yannick 30.07.97 180 82 L EV Regensburg
16 F Körner Christoph 09.07.97 188 84 L Fischtown Pinguins / Heilbronner Falken
18 F Valentin Eric 12.02.97 179 74 R Kölner EC „Die Haie“ /Eislöwen Dresden
20 F Kopp Valentin 19.08.97 183 83 R EV Landshut
21 F Eder Tobias 04.03.98 183 81 R EC Red Bull Salzburg
22 F Kiefersauer Christoph 09.01.98 184 81 L ERC Ingolstadt / ESV Kaufbeuren
23 F Postel Niklas 19.03.98 180 76 L EC Red Bull Salzburg
24 F Spitzner Lois 13.06.97 185 80 L Füchse Duisburg
27 F Hessler Vincent 20.03.98 186 94 R Eisbären Juniors Berlin
28 F Jahnke Charlie 14.02.98 177 79 L Eisbären Juniors Berlin

link

 

[Maverick41]

4 Nations U17
No Valenti
link

Good to see Saakyan playing for Germany.

I don't see any players from Mannheim in the U17 and U18 rosters, maybe they are still in the US where they played a tournament, or they just returned and maybe get a little rest or something.

Agree on Saakyan. I am very curious about him. His numbers the last few years have been quite intriguing.

 

[Munchkin10]

Mannheim coming back on Wednesday.

 

[Munchkin10]

Scores here for U18 4 nations tomorrow.

Possible live stream.