German football 2019/2020

[Bon Esprit]

nvm.

 

[TheMoreYouKnow]

Coutinho is what I'd call a 'nifty little player', but I'd say he's a little too one dimensional to ever to be a world class player. It wasn't entirely shocking that he couldn't light it up at Barca.

Gladbach struggling with Düsseldorf, level now after trailing. After getting rolled by an Austrian team on Thursday a loss here would have put Rose on the hot seat.

 

[MrFunnyWobbl]

witsel!

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

This is why Bayern will win again. Maybe Leipzig gives them a run for their money, but they probably don't have the squad depth for that. A coach switch won't be happening until the end of the season, if it happens.

 

[Albatros]

If such results will continue, and they will, I don't think Favre will see the end of the season.

 

[YNWA14]

Only saw extended highlights at the moment, but Witsel has to be among the best midfielders in Europe. Fantastic player. Sancho will eventually go for a world record fee despite a few struggles today.

Not saying this applies to Coutinho, but we've seen too many world class players like Robben fail during their brief stints with Real or Barca, for an unsuccessful season or two with one of those clubs to prove that a guy isn't world class. Which is what PB is getting at...although if I'd agree that Coutinho simply isn't consistent enough to be considered world class, even if (like Hamez) you can put him in that discussion when on-form/at-his-best.

I would say that Coutinho has world class talent but he just doesn't have the consistency or mentality to become a world class player. There are many players out there that, on their day, can take over a game that just don't have the work ethic or consistency to be considered in the upper echelon of players. I loved Coutinho (really soured on him the way he left) but I had kind of 'turned' on him in this sense in the previous season when the team became overly reliant on him and you could see he just isn't suited to that role. I thought he'd do better at Barcelona without the burden of being the main man, but I think the last season with Klopp really went to his head stylistically and he had other burdens to overcome that I think he couldn't. Bayern is another good situation for him with very low expectations where I think he can do well.

 

[Corto]

I would say that Coutinho has world class talent but he just doesn't have the consistency or mentality to become a world class player. There are many players out there that, on their day, can take over a game that just don't have the work ethic or consistency to be considered in the upper echelon of players.

I don't think it's the effort or consistency. It's that he best plays in a "10" role which is all but extinct.

Be it Coutinho, James, Özil, etc... The number 10s natural players have very little place in today's football (I'm tempted to say a new meta, before the new patch comes out).

Bayern has one spot for a "special" role, be it Müller Raumdeuter role or Coutinho's "10" - so it just might work for him, as well as for Bayern where Kovac basically switches the system depending on whether Coutinho or Müller plays (he says he doesn't see a way to start both of them at the same time).

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Hoeness is insane. This time he said that Bayern won’t release any players to the German National Team if Neuer isn’t starting.

Would Germany be better off with ter-Stegen in goal or Neuer in goal with Kimmich, Goretzka, Gnabry and Mueller also available?

I’d lean towards the Bayern players, but I think it’s closer than most would think. The difference in value of having the best keeper in the world in net as opposed to a keeper ranked 6-10 is enormous.

 

[Live in the Now]

They're not allowed to do that, so it doesn't matter what he says.

 

[Cassano]

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Hoeness is insane. This time he said that Bayern won’t release any players to the German National Team if Neuer isn’t starting.

Would Germany be better off with ter-Stegen in goal or Neuer in goal with Kimmich, Goretzka, Gnabry and Mueller also available?

I’d lean towards the Bayern players, but I think it’s closer than most would think. The difference in value of having the best keeper in the world in net as opposed to a keeper ranked 6-10 is enormous.

Keep Neur ... So, Argentina don't have to face the coolest keeper in the world.

 

[Bon Esprit]

Union Berlin are paying their dues. cgf might not be amused but aware of that. It's going to be tough as expected.

 

[Bon Esprit]

lol. Schalke. They are ripping apart Red Bull.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Good draw by Dortmund at home against a mid-table team missing 10 players.

 

[TheMoreYouKnow]

lol. Schalke. They are ripping apart Red Bull.

David Wagner might be the dude that Dortmund wish they had.

 

[Bon Esprit]

David Wagner might be the dude that Dortmund wish they had.

And the best part is that's basically the same (almost) relegation roster from last year. I don't think it will last long, but I love the early weeks.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Good draw by Dortmund at home against a mid-table team missing 10 players.

Weigl was used as CB? Balerdi was benched smh

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Weigl was used as CB? Balerdi was benched smh

Zagadou should've played. This is exactly why Diallo left. He knew he wouldn't play. As good as Hummels has been, I didn't like that signing. We had a good group of CB's. It was a totally unnecessary change to one of our best positions.

 

[TheMoreYouKnow]

And the best part is that's basically the same (almost) relegation roster from last year. I don't think it will last long, but I love the early weeks.

I don't think they will be in the CL qualifying spots at the end of the season, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if they were in the 5-7 range. The gap between teams in the BuLi isn't all that big really, and there's a number of teams that are pretty questionable really. Looking at the table I feel like there's 7-8 teams that one could see getting relegated without using one's imagination too much.

 

[HajdukSplit]

For US viewers, Bundesliga moving to ESPN+ next season. Select games will be shown over the air but for majority will be the online stream

 

[Cassano]

My striker

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

I'm generally not a big fan of Watzke, but what did he say thats wrong?

Auba took the money to play at a team that plays in the Europa League year after year.

He nearly took the money to play in China. The guy wanted a big contract. I can't blame him. He hadn't been a star for 10 years in Europe like most of his counterparts. He probably has been paid a lot less through the years than most players at these big clubs.

And, like Dembele, the player he referenced, he was completely unprofessional in forcing a move away from Dortmund. The team doesn't object to letting players leave if they want out.

 

[Cassano]

I'm generally not a big fan of Watzke, but what did he say thats wrong?

Auba took the money to play at a team that plays in the Europa League year after year.

He nearly took the money to play in China. The guy wanted a big contract. I can't blame him. He hadn't been a star for 10 years in Europe like most of his counterparts. He probably has been paid a lot less through the years than most players at these big clubs.

And, like Dembele, the player he referenced, he was completely unprofessional in forcing a move away from Dortmund. The team doesn't object to letting players leave if they want out.

It seemed like an unprovoked attack on Aubameyang. Like a jealous ex-GF or something.

 

[KJS14]

I'm generally not a big fan of Watzke, but what did he say thats wrong?

Auba took the money to play at a team that plays in the Europa League year after year.

That's an interesting way to analyze it, considering Arsenal played in the CL 22 of the last 25 years and the EL 3 of the last 25 years. He clearly expected for Arsenal to be back in the CL, which they really should have accomplished the last 2 years, but they choked in away games in the 2nd half of both seasons.

 

[Deficient Mode]

Auba is right that Watzke is a clown and just as enamored with money as any player. Dortmund sell players far more readily than clubs with similar finances. And why even make those comments?