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[c3z4r]

absolutely braindead gameplan from whittaker tonight, didn't even try to shoot some takedowns, nothing apart from lunging in with the most telegraphed punches you could think of; you can't do that against a kickboxing specialist like adesanya

Terrible work, especially if the Romero wars compromised his chin

 

[LyricalLyricist]

absolutely braindead gameplan from whittaker tonight, didn't even try to shoot some takedowns, nothing apart from lunging in with the most telegraphed punches you could think of; you can't do that against a kickboxing specialist like adesanya

Terrible work, especially if the Romero wars compromised his chin

Maybe plan was to take izzy down later but either way, let's be real. Izzy was downloading info in round 1 and had Robert flat on his back within 5 anyway. If the round was 10 seconds longer it would've been done in round 1.

Nothing to do with Whittaker not going to the ground. If you can't last on the feet for one round...

But...those punches by Whittaker. As you said, super telegraphed. He was breathing hard from punching air. Izzy just stood back and weathered the storm.

 

[c3z4r]

Maybe plan was to take izzy down later but either way, let's be real. Izzy was downloading info in round 1 and had Robert flat on his back within 5 anyway. If the round was 10 seconds longer it would've been done in round 1.

Nothing to do with Whittaker not going to the ground. If you can't last on the feet for one round...

But...those punches by Whittaker. As you said, super telegraphed. He was breathing hard from punching air. Izzy just stood back and weathered the storm.

If you have a big advantage in wrestling, there's no reason to try and stand on the feet in the early rounds. You'll never see Khabib stand and trade regardless of who his opponent is.

I know whittaker is no khabib, but his takedown and ground game is so much more developped than adesanya there was no reason for him to keep headhunting, especially starting round 2. That late round knockdown should have been a blessing in disguise for rob and guided him towards a completely new game plan, instead he stuck to the same thing that lead to it and it predictably ended in a adesanya win

Disappointing result, as I like Rob a lot, especially his maturity and overall demeanor, but at least this opens up the division in a lot of intriguing possibilities.

I don't really care for Costa vs Adesanya since borrachinha's fighting style is tailor made for Izzy to dominate, and as far as I've seen Costa doesn't really have that 1 punch ko power in spite of his natty apperancebut I am hyped for a potential Romero, and maybe even Hermanson fight sometime in the future.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

If you have a big advantage in wrestling, there's no reason to try and stand on the feet in the early rounds. You'll never see Khabib stand and trade regardless of who his opponent is.

I know whittaker is no khabib, but his takedown and ground game is so much more developped than adesanya there was no reason for him to keep headhunting, especially starting round 2. That late round knockdown should have been a blessing in disguise for rob and guided him towards a completely new game plan, instead he stuck to the same thing that lead to it and it predictably ended in a adesanya win

Disappointing result, as I like Rob a lot, especially his maturity and overall demeanor, but at least this opens up the division in a lot of intriguing possibilities.

I don't really care for Costa vs Adesanya since borrachinha's fighting style is tailor made for Izzy to dominate, and as far as I've seen Costa doesn't really have that 1 punch ko power in spite of his natty apperancebut I am hyped for a potential Romero, and maybe even Hermanson fight sometime in the future.

Roberts wrestling is highly overrated. I dont think he woukd have taken Izzy to the ground no matter how hard he would have tried. Izzy is just too good for him.

 

[LyricalLyricist]

If you have a big advantage in wrestling, there's no reason to try and stand on the feet in the early rounds. You'll never see Khabib stand and trade regardless of who his opponent is.

I know whittaker is no khabib, but his takedown and ground game is so much more developped than adesanya there was no reason for him to keep headhunting, especially starting round 2. That late round knockdown should have been a blessing in disguise for rob and guided him towards a completely new game plan, instead he stuck to the same thing that lead to it and it predictably ended in a adesanya win

Disappointing result, as I like Rob a lot, especially his maturity and overall demeanor, but at least this opens up the division in a lot of intriguing possibilities.

I don't really care for Costa vs Adesanya since borrachinha's fighting style is tailor made for Izzy to dominate, and as far as I've seen Costa doesn't really have that 1 punch ko power in spite of his natty apperancebut I am hyped for a potential Romero, and maybe even Hermanson fight sometime in the future.

Well Khabib has stood up several times. Most of the time people fear the takedown so they strike weird.

As for Costa and Izzy. I think Costa has KO power. I mean, he's 13-0. 11 KOs, 1 Submission and only one to decision and that's with Romero.

9 of his 11 finishes are first round. 3 are second round.

Costa has power. He's jacked and punches with bad intentions.

I was particularly impressed he didn't gas vs Romero either. You'd think with that body type he'd slow down quicker. So he's got a little stamina in him.

 

[LyricalLyricist]

Roberts wrestling is highly overrated. I dont think he woukd have taken Izzy to the ground no matter how hard he would have tried. Izzy is just too good for him.

The rumor is he could be in olympics for wrestling if he went with Australia but...

He never tried out and wrestling is not MMA wrestling.

 

[c3z4r]

Well Khabib has stood up several times. Most of the time people fear the takedown so they strike weird.

As for Costa and Izzy. I think Costa has KO power. I mean, he's 13-0. 11 KOs, 1 Submission and only one to decision and that's with Romero.

9 of his 11 finishes are first round. 3 are second round.

Costa has power. He's jacked and punches with bad intentions.

I was particularly impressed he didn't gas vs Romero either. You'd think with that body type he'd slow down quicker. So he's got a little stamina in him.

No, I know Costa has that acai power, what I meant was that I don't think he has 1 punch ko power. All his wins have been via overwhelming his opponents with his pressure and walking them down punching. I don't know maybe I'm not expressing myself clearly, but in any case I see Costa as a very good stylistic match for Adesanya, so it's not really a fight I'm interested in.

 

[MD thaivuN]

finally got to watch Whittaker vs Adesanya. Pressure fighting really doesn't fit Whittaker's striking game. His success on the feet only came when he countered or feinted into leg kicks.

 

[MD thaivuN]

The rumor is he could be in olympics for wrestling if he went with Australia but...

He never tried out and wrestling is not MMA wrestling.

pretty much this. Whittaker's wrestling game is pretty much gear around stopping takedowns. And it's good enough to stop Yoel Romero's, but really we've rarely ever saw him take people down. Nothing in his history indicates he would have taken Adensanya down.

 

[Kriss E]

If you have a big advantage in wrestling, there's no reason to try and stand on the feet in the early rounds. You'll never see Khabib stand and trade regardless of who his opponent is.

I know whittaker is no khabib, but his takedown and ground game is so much more developped than adesanya there was no reason for him to keep headhunting, especially starting round 2. That late round knockdown should have been a blessing in disguise for rob and guided him towards a completely new game plan, instead he stuck to the same thing that lead to it and it predictably ended in a adesanya win

Disappointing result, as I like Rob a lot, especially his maturity and overall demeanor, but at least this opens up the division in a lot of intriguing possibilities.

I don't really care for Costa vs Adesanya since borrachinha's fighting style is tailor made for Izzy to dominate, and as far as I've seen Costa doesn't really have that 1 punch ko power in spite of his natty apperancebut I am hyped for a potential Romero, and maybe even Hermanson fight sometime in the future.

Khabib stood and traded punches with Conor, who's striking game was meant to be so much better.

 

[c3z4r]

Khabib stood and traded punches with Conor, who's striking game was meant to be so much better.

Only from the second round onwards, after spending the first round exhausting him on the ground and planting the seed of takedowns in mcgregor’s head. Even during the knockdown, Conor first instinct to khabib’s punch was to pull his legs instead of protecting his face, that’s how successful that fear of takedowns was.

 

[Kriss E]

Only from the second round onwards, after spending the first round exhausting him on the ground and planting the seed of takedowns in mcgregor’s head. Even during the knockdown, Conor first instinct to khabib’s punch was to pull his legs instead of protecting his face, that’s how successful that fear of takedowns was.

Still he stood and traded.

 

[c3z4r]

Still he stood and traded.

I feel you're arguing a point I never made

 

[Kriss E]

I feel you're arguing a point I never made

I responded to your post saying “if you have a big wrestling advantage, you have zero reason to stand in early rounds. Khabib would never do that.”
Well, he did. That's all there is to it.

 

[c3z4r]

I responded to your post saying “if you have a big wrestling advantage, you have zero reason to stand in early rounds. Khabib would never do that.”
Well, he did. That's all there is to it.

Yeah, from r2 onwards, after wrestlefackin in r1 or are you just purposely ignoring that part?

And then he lost r3 on his feet and went back to the groundgame in r4.



He tried the same game plan against poirier and got tagged a couple times in r2 and abandoned it and went back to wrestling right away for the rest of the fight.


Anyways, I didn't like bobby's plan, but I hope to see him recover and maybe we'll have a rematch sometimes in the future.

 

[THE HOFF]

Only from the second round onwards, after spending the first round exhausting him on the ground and planting the seed of takedowns in mcgregor’s head. Even during the knockdown, Conor first instinct to khabib’s punch was to pull his legs instead of protecting his face, that’s how successful that fear of takedowns was.

That's on connor for thinking his usually impressive takedown defense would be ready for Khabib. What you said works both ways, after 4-5 failed takedown attempts, the damage would have been in Khabib's head.

 

[Kriss E]

Yeah, from r2 onwards, after wrestlefackin in r1 or are you just purposely ignoring that part?

And then he lost r3 on his feet and went back to the groundgame in r4.



He tried the same game plan against poirier and got tagged a couple times in r2 and abandoned it and went back to wrestling right away for the rest of the fight.


Anyways, I didn't like bobby's plan, but I hope to see him recover and maybe we'll have a rematch sometimes in the future.

Well then maybe you should have written how Khabib only tries to stand after wrestling for a full round instead of sayin he would never stand up vs an opponent in early rounds if he has advantage.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Fedor Emelianenko vs. Rampage Jackson to headline Bellator Japan on Dec. 29

As an old school Pride fan from back in the day I should be happy and all but this is gonna be so sad . Seeing the Saitama super arena full for an MMA show is always a treat so there's that at least.

 

[LyricalLyricist]

When Dern isn’t extremely over weight limit she looks kinda shit. Her striking is trash.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Joanna hasn't had her killer instinct in quite a while now. I wonder if this is the night where she gets it back.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

What do you know, looks like this IS the night where Joanna gets her mean steak back!

 

[LeHab]

Beterbiev vs Gvozdyk this evening on RDS/TSN/ESPN. Should be a great fight.

 

[PhysicX]

Beterbiev vs Gvozdyk this evening on RDS/ESPN. Should be a great fight.

I am beyond excite!!

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Should be a good one, the UFC main event as well. A rare friday night of combat sports fun !

 

[MD thaivuN]

Reyes is the only guy that can beat Jones